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Atman

(31,464 posts)
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 04:42 PM Jan 2017

The whitewashing of the Russian hacking is making me ill.

Nothing to see here. Move along. Sure, they hacked our system and manipulated data, but in the end Donald Trump won anyway, so the hacking obviously had no bearing on the election process, Trump won fair and square.

WHAT THE BLOODY FUCK?

Alice in Wonderland.

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The whitewashing of the Russian hacking is making me ill. (Original Post) Atman Jan 2017 OP
Been screaming about this for days. Wellstone ruled Jan 2017 #1
You and me both. triron Jan 2017 #2
History is not going to treat these apologists well. emulatorloo Jan 2017 #3
Mitch is thrilled. Atman Jan 2017 #5
Such a crock of poo they drown us with. 2naSalit Jan 2017 #4
IOKIYRistan CrispyQ Jan 2017 #6
I was in the doctors office this morning hollowdweller Jan 2017 #7
Yeah the CIA needs to be replaced triron Jan 2017 #8
kick for visibility triron Jan 2017 #9
"manipulated data"? Are you referencing Wikileaks - or ? nt jonno99 Jan 2017 #10
kick for visibility triron Jan 2017 #11
+1 triron Jan 2017 #12
+1, most of it by people who want to blame Clinton for some shit uponit7771 Jan 2017 #13
+66 Million! Cha Jan 2017 #14
It's like the reverse of the Cold War era. Vinca Jan 2017 #15
Exactly what data are you accusing them of manipulating? mythology Jan 2017 #16
Russian spies are going to keep it up. Trump has opened a hole in US intelligence collection. UCmeNdc Jan 2017 #17
kick LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #18
Those going full John Birch Society are making me insane Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2017 #19
Makes me ill, as well. hamsterjill Jan 2017 #20
And it goes on and on and... triron Jan 2017 #21
You ain't alone ............What the Bloody Fuck is right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!nt Stuart G Jan 2017 #22

emulatorloo

(45,567 posts)
3. History is not going to treat these apologists well.
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 04:48 PM
Jan 2017

I disliked Mitch McConnell before for obstructing Obama from day one. I thought my opinion of him could never be lower. He's disgusting for his part in this cover-up.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
5. Mitch is thrilled.
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 04:56 PM
Jan 2017

He holds onto his seat and increases his taxpayer-funded pension, and stays in the news despite being a worthless old codger. Fuck yeah, Russia! Bring it! We lovin' yer ass.

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
7. I was in the doctors office this morning
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 05:02 PM
Jan 2017

And FOX was on the TV and they kept repeating over and over how the CIA needs to be reformed and asking various people if they thought the admin was using the story to weaken trump.

You could hear the entire narrative being assembled to weaken US intelligence so the Russians have less to fear and also to try to paint Obama admin as doing it for partisan purposes. They were getting a little pushback on this even from their conservative sources but after drumming this a few more weeks they will have it neutralized.

Vinca

(51,033 posts)
15. It's like the reverse of the Cold War era.
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 07:37 AM
Jan 2017

I've begun to wonder if Trump isn't an actual (albeit incredibly dumb) Russian operative.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
16. Exactly what data are you accusing them of manipulating?
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 11:30 AM
Jan 2017

To best of my knowledge they spearfished John Podesta and maybe hacked the DNC server. I say may have because I don't know if they used the same spearfishing approach or an actual hack. But the leaked information while out of context, wasn't actually manipulated.

But in spite of that, Clinton was still ahead by 6 or more points up until the second Comey announcement 10 or so days before the election. After that Clinton's poll numbers dropped to about 2 points nationally over Trump, which is where she was on election day.

So I don't see a convincing claim that the Russian aspect had a major impact on the election. You can say it was wrong (and it was) but we have our own long history of interfering in other countries' elections and are using our own cyber attacks like Stuxnet against Iran.

I'm not saying it justifies Russia selectively hacking or spearfishing the DNC, but that I don't see any evidence it was relevant to the outcome of the election.

UCmeNdc

(9,650 posts)
17. Russian spies are going to keep it up. Trump has opened a hole in US intelligence collection.
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 11:33 AM
Jan 2017

Russia will plant more and more disinformation throughout the United States.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
19. Those going full John Birch Society are making me insane
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 11:59 AM
Jan 2017

Trump won because our candidate and her campaign was based on faulty electoral math. Leaks and phony scandals are somewhere way down the list.

hamsterjill

(15,509 posts)
20. Makes me ill, as well.
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 12:34 PM
Jan 2017

First of all, it is the media (and others, of course) absolutely spitting in the face of the men and women of the intelligence agencies who put their lives on the line to keep us safe.

Secondly, it's simply unrealistic that any news agency should be going along with Trump's obvious attempts to make the hacking nothing when we all know it is a GREAT BIG SOMETHING. The hacking, to me, indicates that our very lives are at stake. What's next? Is Russia going to hack into a missile guidance system?

On a different note, I was listening to CNN yesterday afternoon while driving and Dana Bash and Wolf Blitzer and one other commentator were discussing Joe Biden's call out of Donald Trump to "grow up". According to all three of them, Biden doing that meant that Biden was stooping to Trump's level. What the absolute freak does that mean?

No mention of the fact that Trump shouldn't be acting like a child because he's about to be inaugurated as President of the United States of America.

I was screaming in the car. Biggest bunch of bullshit I've ever witnessed.

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