2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumN.Y Times article this morning
"Trump is never going to admit his win was anything but a record-shattering triumph. But his preening, and his whining about being persecuted by the intelligence services, really twists the knife.
Since the election, the media and many Democratic politicians have wrung their hands over their failure to pay attention to the legitimate anger in the Trump-tilting parts of the country. And good for them.
But its time to remember that there are about 66 million Clinton voters who have a right to be angry, too."
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/opinion/trump-sex-and-lots-of-whining.html?_r=0
JHan
(10,173 posts)kcr
(15,522 posts)Finally. Not enough recs in the world, NYT.
UCmeNdc
(9,650 posts)That is very important to remember. We all voted and we did not vote for the Trump pie we are being fed!
Butterflylady
(3,983 posts)are going to eat away at him for the next 4 years, if he lasts that long.
mobeau69
(11,587 posts)RESIST and never give up.
Blame it on my ACT-UP years but i would have added "FIGHT".... we didn't give a shit as our friends and family were dead or dieing.
StevieM
(10,540 posts)committing impeachable offenses right out in the open.
calimary
(84,319 posts)I'm NOT letting that one go. NOT.
gademocrat7
(11,165 posts)yellowcanine
(36,340 posts)Just sayin.' Feel free to use.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,162 posts)ProudProgressiveNow
(6,165 posts)PatrickforO
(15,109 posts)I'm a Clinton voter, and I'm angry that the Democratic party hasn't done a MUCH better job of being a workers party.
You know, I posted an article on here about how Boeing threatened to leave WA unless it was allowed to gobble up its union workers' pensions - you know, STEAL money that the honest workers had bled for, year after year after year? And how the WA Democratic party machine had...............................caved in totally and allowed Boeing to screw these workers?
And you know what??????????????????
NOBODY ON THIS SITE EVEN REPLIED TO IT.
Tone deaf, anyone?
Greybnk48
(10,392 posts)smouldering ashes and the DNC basically said, over and over, "we fart in your general direction." Now Trump will do nationally what we've had done here in Wisconsin, by the Kochs, Bradleys, de Vos family, and the rest of that white trash, and now they're finally paying attention (the DNC).
I really resent the sit back attitude by "our party" that we were forced to suffer with a great big "tough shit." And we're not the only State that was treated that way. I was a Bernie supporter because he spoke to us, sincerely. However, I did support and vote for Hillary like a good little soldier. But my resentment is still strong.
So I hear ya PatrickforO.
LakeArenal
(29,799 posts)Now it will happen to the rest of the US.. Not that that is any comfort for sure. I also was a Bernie supporter who dutifully voted for Clinton. As I dutifully voted against Walker time after time.
Big_K
(237 posts)Paul Ryan's district.
Sigh.........................................
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)And the TPP and Wall Street....
calimary
(84,319 posts)Grey Lemercier
(1,429 posts)And a 15 usd per hour living wage
cilla4progress
(25,904 posts)I agree. The degradation of unions starting with Raygun is shameful and can be pointed to for the beginning of the end for the middle class
I don't know why progressives are asleep at the wheel on these issues at times? Or more likely it's simply that the forces of greed, regression, and concentration of wealth and power just take such gargantuan continuing effort to stave off... it's a full time job in itself...most people don't have the time or energy. They've successfully turned us from citizens into consumers...of cheap toxic Chinese junk.
I became woke on worker's unions reading Zinn's A People's History. Should be required reading.
Thanks for your post.
needledriver
(836 posts)Taft-Hartley was passed by a Republican congress over President Truman's veto. And we wonder why union membership started to decline in the 1950s.
cilla4progress
(25,904 posts)Would you agree that Raygun amped it up in his middle finger to the air traffic controllers?
needledriver
(836 posts)He had the gall to claim that he was the only presidential candidate who had ever been president of a union.
Which is true - he was president of the Screen Actors Guild.
PatrickforO
(15,109 posts)People's History once a year.
Keeps me fresh.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(10,026 posts)you just might get shot.
Our country has been co-opted by the 1%.
I'm certainly not excusing the Dems for caving in so many cases, but I wonder what the reality is in terms of how much they really can resist the powers that be. I think they could do more, be stronger, but I don't know exactly what they're up against.
lillypaddle
(9,605 posts)mobeau69
(11,587 posts)She once wrote "He's (donald dick) everything your mother told you not to be."
vlyons
(10,252 posts)As Traitor Trump and his criminal pals try to lead this country down a rat hole of filth, we are, all of us paying attention. Once the Republicans get finished destroying the middle class and selling off everything of value, a whole lot of hurt and chaos will descend on this country.
Let's stop playing nice and call them what they are - criminals.
calimary
(84,319 posts)YES. YES! Why wait? No reason I can see! Hey, did James Comey wait? As conventions and the expert advice of HIS BOSS made clear he should do? No! Since he didn't wait, neither should we. Good for the goose? Then good for the gander, too.
mreilly
(2,120 posts)76% of elegible voters chose not to vote for Trump. The other 24% are sniveling racist crybabies whining that it's not always about them 100% of the time. Fuck them and their infantile demands. I'm working with the 76%.
radical noodle
(8,581 posts)HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)(and its friends call it Gadot).
I love that line. In fact, this whole surreal scenario feels like something out of existentialist literature.
I brag, therefore I am...
calimary
(84,319 posts)Well, it looks as though we'll be waiting til Doomsday, since he's now declared he will NEVER release his tax returns.
This is such a horribly sucky precedent (fitting - for a horribly sucky so-called "pResident" - because future Mitt Romneys and the rest of 'ems who'd rather not have to show everything can point to him and say "SEE? HE didn't do it and he went all the way to the top. So why should I?" Or as my friend the GOP loyalist insisted to me - "there is no LAW that a candidate has to produce his/her tax returns..." Well, I don't give a fuck about whether there's a law or not. It's a long-running, long-understood, and long-complied-with convention that candidates do so, for transparency's sake, so it's all out in the open what kinds of conflicts or funky stuff or corner-cutting may be in there that will - repeat - WILL (not would. WILL) compromise a potential Commander-in-Chief.
LisaM
(28,600 posts)Some of us are still angry Gore voters, too.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)adigal
(7,581 posts)I am furious, and I will be heard.
I'm going to the Million Women March and I hope others are too.
GETPLANING
(846 posts)was Interstate Crosscheck. Period. He is not a legitimate president. Look at what has happened since the election. Congressional Republicans have launched their agenda, Trump doesn't have a clue what they are up to. Historians will come to refer to this as the Business Coup of 2016.
niyad
(119,909 posts)we all got screwed.
Hekate
(94,643 posts)barbtries
(29,781 posts)i am sick of being told to be understanding of these people many of whom are crowing as they drag us all down. maybe it's time they start to understand us. but it's hopeless; they have no empathy and they don't care about anyone but themselves and their own. apparently this lack of empathy is so ingrained that they think it's normal and attribute it to everyone else, so that our grief and angst at this catastrophic turn of events is construed as a simple temper tantrum.