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UCmeNdc

(9,650 posts)
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 03:41 PM Jan 2017

What I see coming down the road...... Trump will destroy the United States, how?

1. The Russians have spies that have infiltrated Trump's inner circle. Trump's actions will limit the possible investigation of his people and their background checks.

2. The Russians will gain valuable information on US nuclear defences.

3. The Donald will make the average person think all is well. Everything is okay.

4. Putin will come and take the US apart at that moment. Lack of awareness. Beware of Trump and his leadership.

IMHO

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get the red out

(13,586 posts)
1. I am hoping for our allies to help us
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 03:44 PM
Jan 2017

I really hope our allies have their intelligence agencies digging into all things Trump, it would be in the best interest of the world to have this son of a bitch impeached. I know Pence is a complete piece of shit, but the end of our democracy, or nuclear war is worse.

woodsprite

(12,201 posts)
9. Exactly the way I feel
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 04:52 PM
Jan 2017

I was surprised to see someone on DU blasting us for being concerned over Russian interference, Don's Russian money issues, etc. I hope there are more reports, leaks, and releases of info coming through.

UCmeNdc

(9,650 posts)
5. People passing along information.
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 04:03 PM
Jan 2017

Trump's people are not being vetted as thoroughly as they need to. Too many have various Russian contacts.

UCmeNdc

(9,650 posts)
16. Let me answer your question with a question
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 02:39 PM
Jan 2017

How did the Russian hacking of the DNC undermine the Hillary Campaign and the DNC?

How far can Russian hacking undermine US security or other US institutions? Especially if you do not try to prevent it?

UCmeNdc

(9,650 posts)
17. The FBI did not even investigate Trump and his underlings......
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:52 PM
Jan 2017

Comey upset both Democrats and Republicans by declining to comment on whether his agency is investigating reported ties between President-elect Donald Trump and the Russian government, sources inside the briefing told the Guardian.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/democrats-fbi-james-comey_us_58792554e4b09281d0eab299


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NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
4. The military is more powerful than the Presidency at this point in time.
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 03:55 PM
Jan 2017

I hate to go there but I believe it to be a completely accurate statement.

Something like this, at this level, would end Trump. Literally.

zipplewrath

(16,692 posts)
6. worst case scenario
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 04:05 PM
Jan 2017

If Trump is ever discovered to be compromised by the Russians, we'll probably never know. He will be forced to quit somehow, or worse, someone will take it upon themselves to "remove" him.

They'll do it believing it is the "patriotic" thing to do. But it would be a huge mistake. The American people have to learn what they've done, and learn not to do it again.

Scruffy1

(3,418 posts)
7. I don't think he will be removed.
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 04:08 PM
Jan 2017

The first rule of Republicans is party loyalty. I think the best that we can hope for is that both the military and the leaders jsut ignore him.

avebury

(11,073 posts)
11. Look up Johan Galtung, Norwegian Solciologist/Mathemetician
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 09:57 AM
Jan 2017

He has examined empires over the ages and developed predictive models on determining when an empire will fall. He successfully predicted the fall of the Soviet empire and he has made a similar prediction on the US. MOtherboard did an interview with him after Trump's election.

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
13. Maybe in a USA or TNT movie... plenty of career people to stop any truly crazy shit.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 10:37 AM
Jan 2017

The doomsday shit is getting silly, we ridiculed the rethugs for predicting doomsday...

ancianita

(38,518 posts)
15. Tell the underground enclave planners and the island owners how crazy they are when the
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 02:23 PM
Jan 2017

states' political and security tools in government and policing are drifting away from just patrolling and corralling "excess" populations, into random murders and letting the "lie of climate change" do its work.

Here's a non-crazy reality -- biological quarantines, private rooms in public hospitals, gated/surveilled communities, immigration restrictions, private islands, secessionists in Silicon Valley, the longstanding indigenous reservations and urban ghettoes -- and on top of all that, whole "billionaire bunkers" planned for the wealthy elites' survival in Eko Atlantis, Oppididium, Vivos xPoint in South Dakota and elsewhere -- that shows that we can in no way take for granted an increasingly contemptuous and cruel attitude of today's ruling classes, whether they're in America or Russia or Germany or Norway.

Each rational step of the way is seen by pattern seeking chimps and cassandras the 1%'s own "doomsday crazy shit" -- they who can stop all the hotspots of the world are apparently buying into a slow moving wave of extermination under cover of religious wars or climate change. Then add a Trump presidency to the mix, they get the popcorn out, and you've got not such crazy shit after all.

When career people's "norms" of operation and morality are ignored, a rogue actor like this crazy-ass president could start shit that can't be undone.

Like Obama says not spreading fear talk. I'm vigilant, not fearful.

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