Quick 2016 Poll: Hillary or Elizabeth?

[Pryderi]

62 votes, 1 pass | Time left: Unlimited
	Hillary Clinton
	26 (42%)
	Elizabeth Warren
	36 (58%)
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[bowens43]

1. Obviously Hillary. We want someone who can win.

[backscatter712]

46. And they said Warren couldn't beat Scott Brown...

We got the last laugh in that race!

[cali]

48. who did? in any case, running for President is VASTLY different

than running for statewide office in MA.

Warren for sure doesn't have the political chops, the connections or the experience to run. No, she doesn't have the experience that Obama had in 2008.

Oh, and I don't support Hillary either.

[Warren DeMontague]

51. News Flash: people are tired of Dynastic Presidencies.

I'll vote for HRC if she's the Nominee, but I'd prefer Warren.

[graham4anything]

2. Reelect Pres.Hillary45/Napolitano in 2020. ReElect Senator Warren 2018 2024 2030 2036 2042

For President-

Hillary/Napolitano 2016/2020


Michelle 2024 & 2028 (after she is Senator, Ill.)

Chelsea/John Schlossberg 2032 2036

John Schlossberg 2040/2044

For US Supreme Court - Barack Obama 2018 like President Taft did

[Revanchist]

33. Wow

You truly believe that there is no one else in America that is capable of being an effective president outside of those two families?

[Oakenshield]

3. Definitely Elizabeth Warren.

She'd make for a much better president, and would certainly be better for the country. Needless to say however Hillary or Elizabeth's victory means a HUGE win for us.

[OKNancy]

4. I love Elizabeth Warren, but that is not realistic

1. She would never run against Hillary in the primary
2. She will not run against Biden either

[Kahuna]

5. +1

[workinclasszero]

6. Warren is great but she has zero name recognition compared to Hillary Clinton

We cant let the teabag party get its filthy hands on the presidency again. Look at the horrors that Raygun and Bush did with their time in office. I figure after 16 straight years of democratic rule the puke party will be totally dead with a stake through its black and stony heart.

We cant afford to take chances at this stage of the game IMHO. Sen Warren will and is, making a name for herself no doubt. Her future looks bright.

But I think we need Hillary to slay the republican dragon if she wants the job of course.

[Beacool]

7. Again with a Hillary / Warren poll?

Hillary, of course. Warren barely made it to the Senate in a blue state. Hillary has the name brand, popularity and the capacity to raise the necessary money to run against any Repug they nominate in 2016. Also, Hillary just came out today with a video in support of gay marriage. Now that she's a private citizen she can say whatever she wants to say.

[winter is coming]

8. Haven't you heard? They're the only two Dems running in 2016.

[Pryderi]

14. I didn't see any polls posted. I'd love to see the results of the previous ones. n/t

[Beacool]

24. There was another poll recently.

It must still be around. I don't recall who ended up ahead.

[Rider3]

31. let me phrase that a bit more accurately,

yes, but Warren made it in Boston, where corruption is rampant! She won! And, you'd never see any republican, never mind Scott Brown, ask the questions that she does. To watch her stump people is amazing. I think Hillary deserves retirement. But, really, would she ever really retire?

[Beacool]

37. I think Hillary deserves whatever she wants to do.

BTW, you do know that Warren is only 2 years younger than Hillary, right?

[StevieM]

9. I love them both and I think either one would make a great president.

I think Hillary will be the nominee in 2016, and hopefully the next president. But every now and then the GOP finds a way to steal an election. So if that happens then I think we should nominate Elizabeth Warren in 2020.

I think what really matters here is that we are progressing as a nation, in terms of our willingness to consider women candidates. In addition to Hillary, other viable female candidates are Elizabeth Warren, Kirsten Gilibrand and Amy Klobuchar.

[Jamaal510]

10. Preferably Elizabeth,

but Hillary has a much better shot. She beats all of the potential GOP contenders, including Christie.

[Kingofalldems]

11. My guess is Warren won't run for president.

[stevenleser]

12. Hillary for POTUS #45, Warren for POTUS #46. nt

[The Time is Now]

13. And Happily for

EITHER!

[davidpdx]

15. NEITHER!!!

Let's actually talk about when someone runs.

[lunatica]

16. Hillary has proved herself ten times over

Elizabeth has time to prove herself. I believe she will though.

[baldguy]

17. We don't need dynasties - that's what the Republicans do.

And I think Warren should stay right where she is for the time being, to help move the Senate Democrats to the left.

[graham4anything]

39. So you didn't want JFK, FDR or Jerry Brown, Al Gore, Bobby Kennedy to run in the past?

The world would be a horrible place if Jerry Brown had been told at age 10 he couldn't go into public service because that would be a dynasty.

[tabbycat31]

18. I love Elizabeth Warren but I don't see her running in 2016

And if she does, I don't know her chances. The American electorate is not MA, one of the bluest states in the union.

I'd rather have someone who can win.

[ShadowLiberal]

22. I agree I don't see her ever running

And unfortunately, if Warren did run I'd fully expect our corporate controlled media to try their hardest to turn her into a totally unelectable 'anti-business' candidate simply because of her pro-consumer credentials and advocacy.

[Casandia]

19. Elizabeth

She can win.

[cali]

49. Not in the real world she can't. She is not a natural politician.

She doesn't have the backing she'd need. She doesn't have the experience. She won't get the nomination whether Hillary runs or doesn't. Gad.

[whistler162]

20. Cleatis!

[limpyhobbler]

21. Easy. We need someone who will stand up to the powerful banks and oil companies.

[center rising]

23. Hillary by a mile

Like Elizabeth Warren but Hillary has much more experience.

[Generic Brad]

25. Can't we have both?

That's the ticket!

[hrmjustin]

26. I am supporting Hillary but I would proudly vote for either one of them.

[MrSlayer]

27. Warren probably couldn't win but I greatly prefer her politics.

Hillary is just more third way bullshit.

[union_maid]

28. I voted Warren, but

only because this is broadly theoretical and way premature. In a perfect world I'd love to have Warren for president. In this one, I would not put money on who was going to be the candidate in '16 at all. Probably not Warren. Not so sure about Hillary either.

[MannyGoldstein]

29. HillaWar 2016! Inevitable!

Just like last time!

[Rider3]

30. Elizabeth!

Senator Warren! She more than proved, more than earned it. While they wanted her to sit on the back bench and be a good newly-appointed senator, she instead started asking the questions we all wanted. I admire and respect Hillary, but if I were her, I'd retire and enjoy her life. She's earned that.

[Splinter Cell]

32. ?

I'd like a real choice. Thanks.

[Renew Deal]

35. You have a real choice

Pick one

[Renew Deal]

34. Warren isn't ready

[demosincebirth]

36. I agree.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

43. I agree 100%

[Warren DeMontague]

52. They said the exact same thing about a Senator from Illinois who won his seat in 2004.

Fortunately, he listened to his advisors who told him to strike while the iron was hot.

[tarheelsunc]

38. Personal preference is Warren, but I'm not sure she could win a national election. eom

[Pryderi]

41. Sounds like what people said about Obama ;) n/t

[cantbeserious]

40. Elizabeth Warren By Far - Too Much Baggage With Hillary

eom

[Laura PourMeADrink]

42. no brainer to me. Hillary would have a zillion percent better chance in a general. nt

[Rosco T.]

44. Hillary/Elizabeth 2016 ...

... simple solution

[RudynJack]

45. Just curious...

why the use of first names? I don't see questions about Republicans posed as "Chris or Marco?".

There's a decent reason to refer to Hillary by her first name - she shares a last name with another prominent Democrat.

But why "Elizabeth"? Why not "Warren", or preferably, "Sen. Warren"?

[Pryderi]

47. I wasn't going to use Clinton's first name and Elizabeth's last name. n/t

[Warren DeMontague]

53. As much as I like the Name "Warren", I don't really think it's such a big deal.

I remember an awful lot of talk about "Bill and Al", back in the day, didn't bother me.

[BainsBane]

59. People do that with women

I've had to catch myself from doing it myself. Interesting, isn't it?

[michreject]

50. Hillary nt

[Warren DeMontague]

54. Elizabeth Warren.

I would be glad to support either of them, though, as the nominee.

[longship]

55. Rubbish!

It's about three years until anybody cares about the 2016 presidential election. Those who do care are playing into the media hype of perpetual presidential campaigns, a disease which has infected our political bodies.

I don't give a fuck who will, or will not be the Democratic Party nominee for President in 2016! The reason why is because all those projecting possible candidates are merely projecting wishful thinking.

It is almost certainly that those cheering on a 2016 President-Elect Jones will be wrong.

Why don't people here realize that a big problem with US politics is that we seem to be always involved in a presidential election? Most other countries do this in a few weeks!

That's our problem. To the extent that people want to start the 2016 presidential election now, fuck Hillary, fuck Warren, and fuck anybody who wishes perpetual presidential campaigning on us.

Give it a rest.

[Beacool]

57. Errrr, one little thing though,

neither Hillary nor Warren have announced that they are running for president.

[longship]

60. Correct. You have it.

So there is no need for all these Hillary for President, Warren for President, or Joe Schmow for President threads.

I am glad that you agree with me on this.

[mimi85]

58. Agreed!

It's bad enough when I have the misfortune of flipping by Hardball and hear Tweety salivating over the topic of Hillary running.
I hope she has a grandkid by then and can sit and enjoy life for a few years. Maybe write a book. I'm seriously tired of all this never ending campaigning and speculation.

[Flying Squirrel]

56. Hillary/Warren 2016

Why can't I have my cake and eat it too?