Watch Bernie apologize again. You know you want to.

[Alfresco]

[SunSeeker]

1. K & R

[Maedhros]

2. Bernie's a class act.

No excuses. No dissembling. He took immediate and decisive action to correct the problem.

That's pretty damned Presidential.

[Sheepshank]

3. unfortunaley Bernie's staff ensured that Bernie was NOT given the chance to act immediately

Bernie's staff just cost him any chance....

[AgingAmerican]

8. DWS breaking the DNC contract agreement was a godsend to the Sanders campaign.

Now DWS just wants it to go away, but its too late. Genie ain't going back in the bottle.

[Sheepshank]

34. not just spin...its stupid spin that is costing Bernie

Bernie is surrounded by incompetants

[AgingAmerican]

35. The whole thing is an godsend for Bernie

Can't wait til Bernie's lawsuit hits the courts!

[Sheepshank]

37. I'll be waiting with baited breath for your play by play

I'm sure you'll be very vocal about this godsend. Daily updates would be great. So what has happened since the filings?

[AgingAmerican]

38. Nothing because DWS/Hillary are suddenly mute!

The very last thing Clinton wants is a full investigation - the discovery phase of Benie's lawsuit will provide access to all communications between the DNC, DNC's data vendor, NGP-VAN and Hillary. Plus depositions, UNDER OATH, of all individuals sending, receiving or referred to in said communications/records/documents. At least the Battle of the Bighorn was mercifully brief. This lawsuit will take months just to complete the discovery phase .

Debbie Wasserman Schultz knee jerk pouncing without forethought will now bite them in the ass and unmask their corruption! If they try and cover it up, it becomes like Watergate, where the coverup ruined Nixon!

Delicious!

[Sheepshank]

40. Court documents are public. Excuses, Excuses, and made up shit...got it.

[AgingAmerican]

42. It will all come out in the investigation

Unless they try a cover-up, in which case they self destruct like Nixon did.

[Sheepshank]

43. please do keep us informed of the facts as they emerge n/t

[Alfresco]

4. I agree...

I just wish some of his supporters would emulate his behavior.

[AgingAmerican]

9. Hillary supporters are worse

All they do is attack Sanders supporters. Like you just did.

[Alfresco]

11. Read it again, and again if you need to.

I said some of his supporters. You on the other hand did not make that distinction.
Still behaving badly I see.

[NurseJackie]

12. Hi, Pot!

Bullshit.

Love, Kettle

[AgingAmerican]

17. Hillary supporters write crap like this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=895237

[NurseJackie]

18. A classic! :-D

[Alfresco]

21. Come on, try to be nice. It will make you feel better.

[Snotcicles]

26. Why not change it to, Some Hillary supporters are worse.

All they do is attack some Sanders supporters. Like you just did.

[Maedhros]

22. Well, when a campaign is as shifty and dishonest as the Clinton campaign,

it's hard to not call out the bullshit.

[Alfresco]

23. That's rich, On a post about Bernie having to apologize for his campaign.

[Maedhros]

24. Meh. A staffer made a mistake and Bernie reacted properly.

The collusion of the DNC with the Clinton campaign, and the associated shenanigans, is occurring at the highest levels.

You might as well put me on ignore, because I am certainly doing so with you.

[Alfresco]

25. I haven't yet nor do I intend to put anyone on ignore. Buh-Bye.

[missingthebigdog]

32. A staffer did not "make a mistake."

The behavior was intentional, unethical, wrong.

There is no reason to downplay the facts here. Nobody is alleging that this was done with Bernie's knowledge, or at his behest. He took appropriate action, and apologized.

The unwillingness of some of his supporters to acknowledge that what the staffer did was wrong is not moving him forward.

[Maedhros]

33. I believe intentionally viewing data that one shouldn't can be adequately described as a "mistake".

Would "behaved poorly" work better?

Bottom line: the staffer's actions were not approved by the campaign. He wasn't instructed to do it. When it was discovered, the campaign did not make excuses for why he did it.

[MoonRiver]

5. Not really

His campaign was caught with their hands in the cookie jar. He was forced to apologize.

[stevenleser]

6. And he sued instead of going hat in hand as he should have.

That was very Republican-esque

[KittyWampus]

7. And the way his supporters are blaming this on everyone else is classic bully behavior.

[LiberalAndProud]

10. That is utter nonsense, and you know it.

As if Hillary should have said, "Oops, my email server wasn't secure. I must suspend my campaign now."

A staffer made bad choices and was fired for it. The DNC overreacted and team Hillary can't spin hay into gold, try as you might. If Hillary thought there was political traction in it, she'd still be beating that dead horse instead of advocating for Bernie to get access to his voter data and suggesting that her supporters move on.

[stevenleser]

13. Its not utter nonsense. How do you propose we unring the bell of the Sanders campaign knowing

critical pieces of the Clinton campaign turnout strategy in Iowa? I'll wait for your answer.

[LiberalAndProud]

19. Take it up with the DNC and their vendors.

And that, I think is the real story here. Why is the data so consistently insecure? hmmmm??? Why wasn't the vendor summarily discharged?

If Bernie's campaign had wanted to exploit the data, stealth would have been incorporated. Your assertion that Bernie should clear the way for Hillary's coronation is utter and complete hogwash. Especially considering her checkered past in matters of electronic data and national security.

[stevenleser]

28. In other words, you have no answer to how to unring that bell as I suggested. THanks for making that

clear.

[LiberalAndProud]

30. Bell shouldn't have been rung.

The media shitstorm came straight from DWS. Made all Dems look absolutely incompetent in matters of data security. If you'd like to win in the GE, I suggest we let this one die a quick death.

[MoonRiver]

14. Yes it was.

I don't buy that he is completely clueless about what his staff are doing.

[AgingAmerican]

20. He sued because DWS breached the DLCs contract with the Sanders campaign.

To which she is legally bound. She thought she had him, and in her giddyness overreacted in very kneejerk fashion. Absolute power corrupted her absolutely and she took on the role of judge, jury and executioner. Now she can't get the genie back into the bottle and she's the one in trouble. It also appears that the Clinton campaign was in collusion with DWS, which is a conflict of interest and flat out corruption.

[Scootaloo]

27. The DNC breached its contract with the Sanders campaign

That tends to result in lawsuits.

[Deny and Shred]

31. Going hat in hand?

You think that would have restored access to the voter file? Really? Maybe the DNC should have gone quietly to the Sanders campaign. That way, undecideds wouldn't be presented with news showing the Democrats to be bumbling idiots.


How often does the guilty party demand an immediate day in court so their guilt is on full display? Any example will do.

How often does the aggreived party relent when faced with going to court ? Especially after the aggrieved declared they wouldn't restore access until a full investigation was complete ?

If a bank manager leaves the door unlocked and the vault open and the bank gets robbed, the bank goes after the thief AND fires the manager. No discipline for VAN. Why?

[randome]

41. Because data breaches occur every day. Vendors patch the holes and life goes on.

'Discipline' for VAN? How do you know there isn't a clause in the contract that reduces payments in an event like this? You sure as hell don't fire your vendor because they're the ones maintaining your data.
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[bigwillq]

15. Congrats on 400 posts!

[Alfresco]

16. Thanks, I didn't even notice the count.

[one_voice]

29. Bernie handled it with class..

didn't expect anything less from him.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. I'm happy with all of our candidates. I agree with all and disagree with all--on some things, but one thing is certain, any of them is better than a republican.

Oh, and save your Clinton is the same, cuz that shit don't fly with me. Save your time and your energy. I'm not the one. Don't play the 1% card on me either--I'm not even in sniffing distance of 1%.

Just. Don't.

[Paulie]

36. I love how it cuts out the part when they turn to Hillary

and she stammers and stumbles because she was waiting for a denial and was all prepared; Then Bernie was unequivocal and Hillary was knocked off balance.

Here's the unedited version:

[Cha]

39. Hey KICK !