So What Is The Future Of The/My Democratic Party If Hillary Is The Nominee Folks?

[scottie55]

This Bernie Supporter wants to know the future of our party if Hillary is most likely our "leader".

Your opinion?

Please rec and answer.

[KansDem]

1. MOTS

"More Of The Same"

[Kip Humphrey]

2. With Hillary's election, the 3rd-Way conservative takeover of the Democratic party will move

to completion.

[haikugal]

3. Doom.

[Maedhros]

5. The future of the Party will be determined by a three-step process:

1. Elect increasingly corporate-friendly candidates
2. ?
3. Progressive government!

[1StrongBlackMan]

11. That is what I was talking about in Post #8 ...

a lesson that COULD have been learned was:

The future of the Party will be determined by a FIVE-step process:

1. Register in the Democratic Party
2. Identify increasingly progressive candidates (at all levels of government)
3. WORK YOUR ASS OFF FOR SAID CANDIDATE(S)
4. VOTE FOR SAID CANDIDATE(S)
5. Progressive government!

(Note: Steps 1 and 2 are inter-changeable.)

[ViseGrip]

6. None...natta....this shit has been going on since they killed Kennedy.

They have been choosing our presidents since electronic voting machines, they don't need the CIA to kill them. They use the voting machines.

What will happen? NOTHING IF YOU ACCEPT THIS.

This Bernie supporter is tired of getting shit and shittier on the ballot, when for Congress it's good, and better.

If Bernie is not on the ticket, I'll will choose the candidate that makes congress the most miserable to work with. I doubt that's Hillary!

Why should only the citizens be miserable? Let's make congress miserable too! I'm tired of caving into THEM.

We must learn to fight in a different way, for the fight has changed.

[PFunk1]

7. The end of the current democratic party as we know it.

And the growth of democratic independents. In fact I think their wont be a viable democratic party in 8-years due to driving off many 40-plus year old voters.

[1StrongBlackMan]

8. That depends on how Bernie Supporters ...

and independents react, i.e., what lessons are learned.

ETA: Judging from the posts posted between the time I clicked on to reply and click the reply button ... no lessons were learned ... so I will change my reply to: The Democratic Party will carry on, just fine.

[LiberalElite]

9. it ceased to be "my" party

when Bill Clinton and the DLC took it over so I don't care. Let it go and start over like a Phoenix rising from the ashes. It's time.

[mooseprime]

10. seems to me if sanders asks us to

we'd take over the party in droves at the state level and overwhelm them numerically. it's pretty clear the numbers are there. it might take a while but re-tooling the national mechanisms to make a 3rd party viable will take longer than i'm willing to wait. based on my caucusing experiences here in washington state the party is too feeble on a state level to offer any serious resistance. the county caucus over the weekend was the most poorly organized thing i've ever witnessed: 5 hours in and they still hadn't managed to count the number of people present and check them off the list. sanders supporters outnumbered clinton supporters say 10:1.

there's really not a minute to lose: if clinton's fossil fuels and weapons pals get influence in the white house all that will be left for our children is a toxic cinder.

[procon]

12. "Your" version of an alternative Democratic Party doesn't exist outside of Bernie World.

So when Bernie gets done campaigning, he will go to Hillary and try to negotiate a place on the agenda and get her to promote some of his ideas into her platform in exchange for his support. If you didn't know already, this is a story as old as time that gets retread in every election.

Sorry, no rec is forthcoming, as this is basic knowledge stuff.

[oldandhappy]

13. Is it your party??!!

No longer mine. DNC and DWS and our local county chair are all such manipulators...power, money, gamesmanship, and no democracy that I can see.

[AgerolanAmerican]

14. Its future is corporatist-warhawk-neoliberalism

that's what sells in dumbed-down America I guess

I'd rather not have that happen, because making a new party is a herculean task, being in minor-party exile is no fun at all, and I'm not quite ready yet to cede this one to the 1%.

[Nitram]

15. Continue to build on Obama's goals of more affordable healthcare for all,

investment in renewable energy, investment in infrastructure, stopping police abuse of power, higher minimum wage, support for unions, equal pay for women and other minorities, campaign finance reform, intelligent immigrant policy, criminal justice reform, climate change and voting rights.

[TBF]

16. We need to continue fighting as activists -

and I am hopeful that if Bernie doesn't make it he will walk away and/or help us form a third party that is viable (some sort of collaboration with Greens).

I feel very sad about this because I have voted for every democratic nominee for president since 1992. But all evidence indicates the party has either lost it's way or has ruthlessly determined that poverty is not where it's at anymore. I feel that the working class has been abandoned. As the gap in income widens and our environment is becoming more tenuous every day we will have to act boldly to enact change. That is not going to happen in the current democratic party with the person it is obviously selecting to represent it.