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Related: About this forumOccupy Isn't About Electing Democrats--It's About Exposing a Broken System
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As long as there has been a thing called Occupy Wall Street, there have been people who've suggested it should become the left's version of the Tea Party. Josh Harkinson's piece is a notable contribution to the conversation because it comes after eight months of in-depth reporting on the movement. Harkinson, like Jennifer Granholm, suggests that Occupy should recruit and run candidates, so the left has champions in Congress and can credibly threaten less ideologically aligned Democrats. According to this logic, it doesn't matter if Occupy does this itself or essentially outsources the job to our progressive allies -- the point is to find ways to elect more good Democrats.
The idea of a progressive Tea Party was totally my jam before Occupy started. Like Harkinson, I didn't see how the left could create real change in America without taking control of the Democratic Party. Now I think it's important to recognize that the problems we face as a country can't be solved by electing more Democrats, or even by electing more good Democrats. A progressive Tea Party would be a welcome addition, but it wouldn't be nearly enough to create the kind of change we need.
If Occupy tried to start a left Tea Party, we would be following in the footsteps of several progressive movement efforts that came up short. Howard Dean's presidential campaign turned into Democracy for America to reclaim the "Democratic wing of the Democratic Party," the Progressive Change Campaign Committee explicitly references the DCCC, and Rebuild the Dream originally billed itself as the progressive Tea Party. I have worked for each of these organizations and have lots of respect for their work. But unfortunately, none of these projects, despite their many successes, have managed to mount a serious national effort to take out bad Democrats and replace them with good ones. They are constrained by the lack of a grassroots base in many congressional districts and big donors reluctance to fund challenges to Democrats. Even big, collaborative efforts to take out bad Democrats have a relatively poor record (See Sheyman, Ilya; Halter, Bill; or Lamont, Ned).
Occupy is less well suited than the Progressive movement to overcome these challenges. Most occupiers I know aren't interesting in learning how to raise money, knock on doors, or run campaigns. Starting a progressive Tea Party is a completely legitimate, useful goal -- but it's something for the progressive institutions to take on. New York state and city provide a good model for how this can work harmoniously: the Working Families Party is a unified progressive block within the Democratic party. They support Occupy and we support them on the issues. Together, we won a huge, unexpected victory for the millionaires tax.
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Occupy Isn't About Electing Democrats--It's About Exposing a Broken System (Original Post)
xchrom
May 2012
OP
ABSOLUTELY! The Dems were half-dead and incapable of exposing the true enemy
Sarah Ibarruri
May 2012
#2
zbdent
(35,392 posts)1. The corporate media keeps trying their best to marginalize it ...
while denying that the TEA baggers WERE backed by the corporatists ...
Sarah Ibarruri
(21,043 posts)2. ABSOLUTELY! The Dems were half-dead and incapable of exposing the true enemy
And I do mean enemy. It's clear to me that the mega-rich and corporations not only have impoverished our country, but are wealthy and doing well because of it.
And the Democrats have been comatose all along.
Which is the reason for Occupy. Someone had to tell the truth.
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)3. ABout to add, plus my household, but I am not
Sure either of us here believes the Dems are half dead. More like two thirds?
Leaders in both parties are pleased to have people like Greenspan, Paulson, Geithner, Jamie Diamon tell them how to handle the economy. Forty nine cents of every dollar of profit now goes to the Big Financial Firms.
The only bright spot in any of this is the Occupy crowd.
Sarah Ibarruri
(21,043 posts)4. Occupy is fully alive, and thank goodness for that! nt
ellisonz
(27,739 posts)5. I think that is a fair point. n/t