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pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
Thu May 17, 2012, 05:27 AM May 2012

Judge Blocks Controversial NDAA Provisions


Wednesday, May 16, 2012Last Update: 6:49 PM PT
By ADAM KLASFELD

MANHATTAN (CN) - A federal judge granted a preliminary injunction late Wednesday to block provisions of the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act that would allow the military to indefinitely detain anyone it accuses of knowingly or unknowingly supporting terrorism.

Signed by President Barack Obama on New Year's Eve, the 565-page NDAA contains a short paragraph, in statute 1021, letting the military detain anyone it suspects "substantially supported" al-Qaida, the Taliban or "associated forces." The indefinite detention would supposedly last until "the end of hostilities."

In a 68-page ruling blocking this statute, U.S. District Judge Katherine Forrest agreed that the statute failed to "pass constitutional muster" because its broad language could be used to quash political dissent.

"There is a strong public interest in protecting rights guaranteed by the First Amendment," Forrest wrote. "There is also a strong public interest in ensuring that due process rights guaranteed by the Fifth Amendment are protected by ensuring that ordinary citizens are able to understand the scope of conduct that could subject them to indefinite military detention."

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http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/05/16/46550.htm





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Judge Blocks Controversial NDAA Provisions (Original Post) pinboy3niner May 2012 OP
K&R Thank you judge Forrest for upholding our constitutional rights in this matter think May 2012 #1
Good. limpyhobbler May 2012 #2
I think the government is unlikely to appeal pinboy3niner May 2012 #3
The real question though is will it be overturned if it gets to SCOTUS and imo cstanleytech May 2012 #4
In that case we may be screwed. nt limpyhobbler May 2012 #5
 

think

(11,641 posts)
1. K&R Thank you judge Forrest for upholding our constitutional rights in this matter
Thu May 17, 2012, 05:55 AM
May 2012

May this trend continue for the sake of our nation.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
3. I think the government is unlikely to appeal
Thu May 17, 2012, 10:43 AM
May 2012

The President expressed reservations about these provisions before they were passed. And even the judge suggests, in her decision, that they could "easily" be modified to pass constitutional muster:

"Section 1021 tries to do too much with too little - it lacks the minimal requirements of definition and scienter that could easily have been added, or could be added, to allow it to pass constitutional muster," Forrest wrote.

Scienter refers to a person's knowledge that a law is being violated.


cstanleytech

(27,006 posts)
4. The real question though is will it be overturned if it gets to SCOTUS and imo
Mon May 21, 2012, 11:33 PM
May 2012

they should uphold the ruling or better yet throw out the whole NDAA but that depends on if they truly are a court that follows the constitution rather than a court who makes rulings based on their political beliefs.

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