If Obama is really on the side of the banksters and the "sequester" is not a trick to "get" repubs

[Fire Walk With Me]

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Going to go out on a limb here because this is so pivotal. Please remember that I've been screaming " 'austerity' is coming" on DU for many months, even years, and now it's here.

What would unfold and what are the likely Trends?

-This will hit many Americans in their Personal Convenience. The PC button is one of the main buttons to hit if you want outrage and action.

-The poor and weak will shortly begin being hit; outrageous conditions become revealed and broadcast

-Social unrest will grow as this time, many people already have some idea of what Occupy was discussing

-If it reaches the point of marching in the streets, Occupy and simply outraged citizens, the riot cop problem and its continuation (courts, the prison-industrial complex) will follow. We need a solution to this obstacle.

-DHS and "police" will set "rules" against citizen self-expression (marching, gathering)

-If things get to the point as in Greece, Spain, Italy, etc. with tens of thousands marching, even surrounding government demanding they do something, the DHS and "police" response will worsen.

-If there is violence, even by paid provocateur(s), they can immediately tighten laws and increase their response. Drones would likely be "required" to monitor for "violence" (read: now we get to monitor all of you like we always wanted to). They know Occupy might come back even larger in proportion to their actions and they HAVE to have plans against it.

-Watch more cities fall into the "tea party" "emergency manager" rules now taking over Michigan (there's no money! have a dictator!).

-The Koch brothers and the banks behind the "tea party" will automatically gain power

-Watch the EU states most hit by the "austerity" power-grab scam. Some have installed Goldman Sachs ex-employees as Prime Ministers and bank execs. Lew in the US was just effectively paid by Citigroup to take a government position.

-The Citigroup "Plutonomy" memo lists right-wing, anti-immigration governments as being friendly to the expansion plans of the rich. Enough social trouble results in things such as run-off elections which install such "governments". This was done in California by Enron, who had meetings with Schwarzenneger before causing "rolling blackouts" in the power grid which so inconvenienced citizens they demanded a run-off election. Schwarzenneger immediately began attacking social infrastructure and the pensions of firefighters and nurses, among other things, cutting mental health care by 60% in one swipe. Most obviously, the very rich WANT "just enough" unrest through which to further their goals, and I believe they have plans long since in place. The "Plutonomy" memo identified social trends in other Plutonomy states as resulting in Occupy and similar...and they mentioned increasing signs of such, in 2006. They know, and they're planning and keeping watch.

-Remember that the rich are prospering from the DHS and TSA and related trillion-dollar budgets. They'll make money while stealing power.

-Massive water grabs are ongoing world-wide. That would likely intensify in the US under stress conditions, even be called "necessary". Only benefits the rich; severely increases their power.

-Massive unemployment, debt, shortages.

Michael ?@_cypherpunks_
Youth unemployment in Europe: ~24% (Greece 59.4%, Spain 55.5% and Italy 38.7%).
http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_STAT-13-31_en.htm …

-The bill just introduced requiring the young to "serve" in militaristic gangs would likely prosper and Posse Comitatus disappear. HR748

-With CISPA passing and the White House officially demonizing Anonymous, there is vast potential for censorship and control of the internet, which would impede resistance.

-People will have to gather in homes and communities to survive, in a long-term view of this problem. This involves community farming and home farming. Watch for laws restricting the number of people in a given residence and against the use of personal property to grow food. There already are signs of both. I do believe this to be a positive model when it can be turned into happiness and not necessity.

Please do not alert this as "creative speculation". I wish this to be a discussion of given Trends that we may plan different outcomes.

[Lady Freedom Returns]

1. I keep reading as much as I can...

And the more I read the more I think that the trigger had to be pulled for people everywhere to wake up.

We need to stop cutting the welfare needs of the country and stop hitting Social Security. We must make the upper echelon pay up by getting rid of the loopholes that allow them to pay less of a percentage than those that work for them.

To do this, sadly, all must wake up to the true problems and the only way is for everyone to get hit by this.

It is going to hurt so many, including myself. But, if the republicans get their way, we at the bottom are going to get slammed anyway. It is not right in any sense. However, the more that gets hit, the more voices will rise and, hopefully, get true change.

[Fire Walk With Me]

2. But if as the continued corporate bailouts, lack of regulation/punishment, and increasing 1% profit

margins detail, and Obama is simply a shill for the big banks, then the "sequester" was planned and purposeful as a means of installing "austerity" upon the nation. "Whoops, can't fix things, sorry, gonna have to slash things for the poor" was what was done to several European countries over the last several years, detailing a pattern of purposeful abuse which could easily also be turned upon the US.

[Lady Freedom Returns]

5. This will have an effect on people, one that will cause many to take a real look at things.

That is the only thing that will come from this. Those that will be paying attention, and I do believe that many will start to, will see behind the curtain. They will have to see that the tax loophole and the bailouts have got to stop. We can't keep it up. And sadly many like myself will get to hurt even more to get more to see.

I do feel as if we must go through hell to save the future.

[OnyxCollie]

3. If things were to go straight to hell in a hand basket, now would be the optimum time. nt

[OnyxCollie]

4. I agree with you.

Particularly in regards to violence, Michigan, big banks, and water grabs.

[Fire Walk With Me]

6. Forgot about CISPA and the WH demonizing Anonymous. Add control of the internet to the list.

The communication on these topics which we so take for granted may be in danger.

[dtom67]

7. If I ran the show...

I would leave the internet " Free "; what better way to gather intel on potential trouble-makers? I'm sure it isn't that hard to track an IP ( warning, I don't really know what that means; just that it is a location of some sort ).

This country is clearly getting primed for the rude awakening that everything we were taught as kids was bullshit. The Rich own this place and they own you. Forget about your "rights"; that experiment is over. The Wealthy are tired of spending all that money to control your country.

Be glad for the scraps that they give.

You can't fight it, either. If you try to take a stand, you will be a " terrorist". Your family will not even be allowed to know what happened to you when you are arrested. If you are tortured, oh fucking well! It happens all over the World, right now.

What makes you so special ???

My only hope is that some group of Elites might have some nostalgic feelings for the Good old USA and ease up on the Totalitarian hammer just a little. Perhaps we will be allowed to keep our Democratic facade.

My other hope was that this collapse of our civilization would wait a few years so I could learn to grow my own food. Maybe the only answer left will be to exit the monetary system as much as possible. Turn away from national debt/ponzi and just live without the things that they will use to keep people in line.

Or maybe I'm just paranoid.


Still, its pretty funny how people here are so aware of news around the world, yet they assume that it cannot happen here.

That's the worst part; no one will even believe it can happen until its over.....

[limpyhobbler]

8. I seems like many people don't realize how fragile the system is.

Most of what you described in your post is already happening. It's not creative speculation, it's just describing the changing world around us and asking what's logically next.