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Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
Sun May 5, 2013, 06:34 PM May 2013

Anything changed? | In 2002: Of the 100 largest economies in the world, 51 are corporations

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Anything changed? | In 2002: Of the 100 largest economies in the world, 51 are corporations, only 49 are countries. http://bit.ly/10hjv4B


http://www.globalissues.org/article/234/the-rise-of-corporations

Corporations, as we tend to think of them, have been around for a few centuries, the earliest of which were chartered around the sixteenth century in places like England, Holland etc. Technically speaking, a corporation is what Robbins describes as a “social invention of the state” (Robbins: p.98). That is, a state grants a corporate charter, permitting private financial resources being used for public purposes. As Arrighi points out, this initial creation of private finance and merchants, etc was to aid in the expansion of a state to which it belonged, and as Arrighi and Smith detail, served to expand colonial and imperial interests to start with, as well as help in war efforts between empires.

The advantage of having a corporation over being an individual investing in trade voyages etc, was that an individual’s debts could be inherited by descendants (and hence, one could be jailed for debts of other family members, for example). A corporate charter however, was limited in its risks, to just the amount that was invested. A right not accorded to individuals. (Robbins: p.98)

Corporations had therefore the potential, from the onset, to become very powerful. Even Abraham Lincoln recognized this:

I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. ... corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed.

— U.S. President Abraham Lincoln, Nov. 21, 1864 (letter to Col. William F. Elkins) Ref: “The Lincoln Encyclopedia”, Archer H. Shaw (Macmillan, 1950, NY)


(More at the link. HAS anything changed? For the better?)
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Anything changed? | In 2002: Of the 100 largest economies in the world, 51 are corporations (Original Post) Fire Walk With Me May 2013 OP
Change? Yes. Better? NO Demeter May 2013 #1
It's us who do this. JNelson6563 May 2013 #2
Most people have no clue what they are buying or what it takes to get these products to them. sabrina 1 May 2013 #4
Valid point! JNelson6563 May 2013 #5
Yes, I agree re circulating lists and other information as widely as possible. Our media certainly sabrina 1 May 2013 #6
all our elected politicians are belong to them, no surprise really nt msongs May 2013 #3
I guess wealth is probably more concentrated now than in 2002. limpyhobbler May 2013 #7

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
2. It's us who do this.
Sun May 5, 2013, 06:59 PM
May 2013

The masses support these corporations. Why would anything have changed? Has there been a change in the way people consume? Not in the US as far as I know. People still loading up with all sorts of crap they don't need that is produced and marketed by these corporations.

As long as the masses are fat and happy, nothing will change. Ever.

Julie

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
4. Most people have no clue what they are buying or what it takes to get these products to them.
Sun May 5, 2013, 10:33 PM
May 2013

If we had a media that produced information, news, facts, our population would be more educated, and at least a % of them would refuse to participate in supporting these Corps once they knew the consequences.

Until we have a real news source on a national level, the population will remain ignorant, and that is how Corporate American wants it.

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
5. Valid point!
Mon May 6, 2013, 04:01 AM
May 2013

Which is why I love the lists that make the rounds on the internets of who makes what.

We should always make sure those go viral at least.

Julie

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
6. Yes, I agree re circulating lists and other information as widely as possible. Our media certainly
Mon May 6, 2013, 04:15 PM
May 2013

won't do it, so now it is up to us.

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
7. I guess wealth is probably more concentrated now than in 2002.
Mon May 6, 2013, 07:50 PM
May 2013

That quote from Lincoln, I was like wow that's a good quote so I searched for it on the google and it seems to be fake, even though it has been widely used and credited to Lincoln. ( http://www.snopes.com/quotes/lincoln.asp ) The main point is probably correct though.

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