Occupy Underground
Related: About this forumTim's Tent
Well, it's that time of the evening again... setting in the lawn chair, finishing off the lukewarm remains of supper on the coleman stove... (actually, Occupy Erie has moved indoors for the winter). So I must occupy this virtual tent. All are welcome to chime in, I have extra chairs. What's on your mind tonite,
Myself, the main thing that wowed me was the news of Brietbart passing so soon after his anti-occupy rant. You know you are accomplishing something when the big guns take you seriously enough to worry about you. And apparently he was taking occupy quite seriously.
Since I have to Occupy in a virtual tentfor now, I guess I better tell you what it looks like. In the spirit of my Irish ancestors who managed to be on the right side of history in the civil war, make my tent plain white canvas of the type used by Union reenactors. I want the most bang for my buck against the klan types. Big enough to stand up in, but small enough to rollup and carry. And I tell you in truth I have hiked with real canvas surplus tents long ago. They are not light. Bbut they are nearly indestructable and have soul that the vinyl taffeta does not. Kinda like me.
I loved last fall talking to other occupiers after events, it was sometimes dead serious and other times absolutely hilarious. We joked around a lot and had fun. I would hate to see this group turn into a dry, lifeless bulliten board of announcements (although we still need them here, but not exclusively!) Or a bunch of cut and pastes of dry ideological differences between competing cliques. The occupy I saw unfold last fall was
alive, had a human face and soul. I would hate to see that change.
I hear the coffee starting to bubble in the pot. (Try to find an old fashioned perky coffe pot lately? Good luck...) Hold your cup out. It's a little strong...
HillbillyBob
(3,208 posts)Thanks for being in the Occupy movement..I would be out there except for poor health.
I have a stainless steel version that I got at Ace hardware about 10 yrs ago.. If i recall they did have aluminum ones. Some western stores sell the old blue porcelain granny ware ones. Lehmans
http://www.lehmans.com/store/Kitchen___Coffee_p_1?Args=&view_all=1
unionworks
(3,574 posts)My support of my local Occupy consists of dropping off hot pizza and doughnuts when I can afford to do so, carrying a sign around the block, and other small items as I can afford. I felt bad, they really wanted a perky coffee pot, and I just couldn't find one. They are getting rare. I imagine I could have found one at the wal mart or somewhere in sporting goods, but theirs were tiny. My Mom had one that was pyrex a long time ago with stainless stem. I had to laugh nobody knew how coffee was made before electric outlets.
Nuthin' wrong with being a Hilbilly, Bob. Hill people know how to fend for themselves. (God I love bluegrass.) I remember a musician whose students asked him the difference between Hillbilly and folk music. He answered, "Hillbillies sing louder".
Chan790
(20,176 posts)I can tell you where you can get cheap French presses. As long as you can boil water, you've got coffee.
Any of those discount stores like Big Lots, Marshalls, TJ Maxx, Tuesday Morning. Generally the plastic ones are cheaper than metal and glass. Ironically, for camping or Occupy, plastic is preferable...thin pyrex glass is fragile.
Actually, on the perc-pot, if they have electricity, you can probably get one of those huge indestructible metal ones they use at banquets and the such used at a restaurant supply for about $30.
unionworks
(3,574 posts)I will look into that. Occupy Erie didn't set up tents, they stayed in a gazeebo in the park next to city hall. There was electric there during the fall, but the city shut it off for the winter. IMHO the coffee justs tastes better in a perky pot! I wouldn't want a glass one for camping though. All tips for improving the quality of tent life/outdoors that people have learned from the camps to make things easier and more comfortable would be most welcome here. I know people who will use them this spring. Here's a bag of jumbo virtual marshmallows for all of you to toast!
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)no seriously.
So today I spent some time talking to a fellow newsie, who used to work for BBC... and who currently is working for an add agency. He wants to get back in the nooz business after he saw the misrepresentation of Occupy Leeds. In case you wonder that was Sky TV...
But what they did was a classic. They waited until they had a shot with few if any occupiers, and ran that at night.
Of course the they do not want what they want, they need a shower and a job... well, you know the usual... so gave him a card.
It be nice if Mirian snagged herself a part time journo with THOSE credentials. Hey, I would not mind just being a shutter bug either. Right now... oy my back hurts...
unionworks
(3,574 posts)Last edited Fri Mar 2, 2012, 04:49 AM - Edit history (1)
Who were born before the dawn of the internet age keep a few backup non high-tech items around, like perky pots, push mechanical lawn mowers, and toaster ovens! I find the sound of cofee perculating in a perky pot to be cheerful and ccomforting, kind of like a whistling tea pot!
I don't know much about the Occupy scene in England, although I know the movement is international. I would love to visit. I got a bit of the flavor when I lived in a mining town where most of the people were of English, Welsh and Scottish descent. I lived in an old Victorian house.
I suppose journalism is a lot like intelligence work. You need to be aware and connected, you collect information and then analyze it. Best of luck to your friend at Leeds, and I hope you keep the news. Coming for us! Das Vidzhenia! (Sp?)
unionworks
(3,574 posts)Opened the tent flaps and got a nice message from Nadin! And if any of. The rest of you want to pitch a virtual tent next to mine, I'll be glad to see ya! Solidarity!
unionworks
(3,574 posts)Martin Luther King the 3rd commended the Occupy movement on the Al Sharpton show, saying it could help keep civil rights from being rolled back by the right.
ellisonz
(27,739 posts)unionworks
(3,574 posts)I was starving in here! Now I must make real hot cocoa - not the instant kind, but the kind made from real raw cocoa powder... Mom had a secret way of making this and it was a rare treat... can't remember what the other ingredients were!
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Last edited Mon Mar 5, 2012, 07:24 PM - Edit history (1)
For 2..
2 TBS of cocoa powder
1.5 TBS of sugar
pinch of salt
1/3 cup plus 2 TBS boiling water
2 cups milk
(One quarter to half teaspoon vanilla optional)
Put cocoa, sugar, and salt in a sauce pan. Warm dry ingredients on low heat. Add boiling water and gently cook for 3 minutes.
Add milk and heat slowly. Use a whisk to froth.
Delicious!
unionworks
(3,574 posts)What Mom made. Yum! Don't forget the itty bitty marshmallows!
unionworks
(3,574 posts)Take the "Tim's Tent" idea and make it my journal. I'll get to work on it tomorrow! (Brushing off grahm cracker crumbs and smiling).
unionworks
(3,574 posts)...went to a good cause!
greytdemocrat
(3,300 posts)You sound like you need help. Get it.
unionworks
(3,574 posts)of some other people who can't seem to spell very well....
ellisonz
(27,739 posts)...some sort of furrign spellin'
unionworks
(3,574 posts)Fahq! Ah kaint spel fur sheet!
unionworks
(3,574 posts)...Yur casting asparagus at me!
Vincardog
(20,234 posts)40% by volume Want a touch?
unionworks
(3,574 posts)And a cup of "Irish Kindness" back to you! (Hennesey)
Vincardog
(20,234 posts)Leopolds Ghost
(12,875 posts)No, not the one with Curly blowing up the rabbit (hopefully he's part of the 99%, I may have seen him at our local Occupy.)
The Lone Biker of the Occupocalypse
The one with the family camped outside their trailer, looking into the sunset.
unionworks
(3,574 posts)... is a timeless classic! Perhaps we can use a projector and show it on the side of the tent tonite!
unionworks
(3,574 posts)IGot into a screaming match with bluedogs in GD last night over this. It cost me two hidden posts, I had to go get stitches. I believe this bill was aimed squarely at the Occupy movement. I also believe it is the banner of a full fledged police state. Bad idea to get into it on a thread that is already swarmed with the usual Occupy haters. Ouch.
Leopolds Ghost
(12,875 posts)The one I was posting on got locked by the OP because it turned into a flamewar I guess.
unionworks
(3,574 posts)"OMG they're coming for us" or something. I got into it with the bluedogs and damn near got TSed.
unionworks
(3,574 posts)Wal Mart, made in China of course. A nice big beautiful stainless. I didn't buy it. They also had a chinese made granny style glazed blue model. Drink the coffee after boiling it in this will probably result in a hospital trip. The stainless was bare metal. China seems to have a problem using toxic materiels in their glazes bound for America.
ellisonz
(27,739 posts)unionworks
(3,574 posts)unionworks
(3,574 posts)and sit by my fire. Old Uncle Tim has some stories to tell...
unionworks
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(3,574 posts)Leopolds Ghost
(12,875 posts)Now you're posting songs I wanted to post.
Jim Morrison = A Dark Man...
unionworks
(3,574 posts)What a perfect song.
Leopolds Ghost
(12,875 posts)1. Screw Warner Music for taking down the superior CSNY version of "Wooden Ships" (the Woodstock version, silly) from Youtube and everywhere else so they can sell the inferior studio versions and the not-as-good Jefferson Airplane version. They been censoring the Woodstock live recordings in favor of the studio songs, apparently since the very beginning -- the Woodstock double album almost didn't get made. And I have no way to put it on mp3 yeah I know the old recording sounds better, but you can't post a link to it... and I can't find one anymore.
2. An old hippie friend of mine who used to be overseas told me that they dumped tons of gold bullion off the side of that ship that a prominent South Vietnamese general was trying to smuggle out of the country. The reason? They needed to make way for the entire inventory of the Americans' favorite off-base storekeeper who was fleeing the country, since he sold liquor to every officer and agent in Saigon. Tee he hee!!! Friendship is food and drink and a little something on the side, presumably.
Not a hippie or anything, mind you I just grew up in a "post-60's" community...
unionworks
(3,574 posts)...certainly has the ring of truth to it. Things happened during that time that nobody today would believe. As far as Warner goes, it is true the Woodstock movie was nearly never made. Some hippies took matters into their own hads.
Leopolds Ghost
(12,875 posts)As for the gold, apparently the storekeeper took his inventory to the States and started up an Asian grocery.
[font size="1"]AND NOW, LITTLE MAN, I GIVE THE GOLD TO YOU.[/font]
Leopolds Ghost
(12,875 posts)Today i learned that friendship is sometimes all you have before you die...
unionworks
(3,574 posts)...your ponies!
Leopolds Ghost
(12,875 posts)"Chrysanthemum Blossom" here is the best I can find. To the drawing board...
[font size="1" color="grey"]PS -- PONIES DONT DO DRUGS! A message from the Pony Advisory Council.[/font]
unionworks
(3,574 posts)unionworks
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(3,574 posts)...they let US down
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Leopolds Ghost
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ellisonz
(27,739 posts)AnotherDreamWeaver
(2,884 posts)Bring water to a boil, add coffee, stir and let settle, pour slowly. We did this on camping trips for years. Then someone gave us an aluminum expresso pot that we could put over the coleman stove. Shared morning coffee in camp the year we did the Greateful Dead tour.
Keep it up, Occupy Earth.
unionworks
(3,574 posts)...especially on a cold morning! 1975 my h.s. girlfriend aand I drove the 71 Malibu to see Commander Cody in Youngstown, OH. The house lights went out and when they came back on, Garcia and Maria Muldair walked down the aisle and sat in the frontrow with the Jerry Garcia band. Great days.
AnotherDreamWeaver
(2,884 posts)in the outdoor amphitheater of Armstrong Woods State Park out of Guerneville, Calif. She is a lot of fun. A local group 'The Thugz' opened, (Tribal Hippy Under Ground Zone). The Thugz did a gig at a Giants game last year I heard.
unionworks
(3,574 posts)...walking down the aisle beside Jerry, her long black hair down to her waist and graceful stride, I remember my jaw dropping... the Brookes and Dunn song "My Maria" was a cover of a song written for her. I have heard her also referred to as "Black Maria".
unionworks
(3,574 posts)...started with Reagan. At the time I was a steelworker and a union member (USWA) working in the Allegheny valley, on the banks of the river. When Reagan came in, he dropped the tariffs on Japanese steel, flooding the market. Pittsburghs steel industry just dried up and blew away. The union is now a shadow of the mighty power it once was. This tune says it all...
unionworks
(3,574 posts)unionworks
(3,574 posts)...to have fun!
Leopolds Ghost
(12,875 posts)Leopolds Ghost
(12,875 posts)They only want a free market overseas, they want corporate takeover (no competition) at home.
A friend of mine who was around back then told me the Monongahela Valley used to look like the fires of Mordor at night
He once had to take his boss's wooden boat out of the river and it was petrified by all the iron
and what not, so it nearly broke the rig
Funny thing is, all the parochial people in this country say "well we're a lot better off without those dirty industries" and their implicitly critical of the fact that they were "overpaid and underskilled" union jobs But they have NO problem with the same industries doing gangbusters now that they are overseas, and twice as polluting, and paying people much less in China, because it's out of sight, out of mind! They want everyone to compete for a limited pool of technocratic office jobs, meritocracy (which implies a small pool of highly skilled winners and a large pool of losers).
unionworks
(3,574 posts)...right on the head. I personally think Reagan was a sockpuppet for his Poppy Bush. It all started with the breaking of the air traffic controllers union. Bush 2 accelerated the downhill slide and we may never recover.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)How to break that chain, that is the problem. Maybe it is too late. I can't imagine anyone getting close to the WH who intended to change the system. It is the system that is the problem now. Even a great president would not be able to do much imo.
Congress will have to be changed, drastically before the system can even begin to change, but with so much money buying seats in Congress, that too will be hard.
unionworks
(3,574 posts)... it will take people like you, Sabrina.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)'The people united, will never be defeated'!
back atcha!
unionworks
(3,574 posts)Billy Joel songs I like. "Allentown", and "We Will All Go Down Together".
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)environment, especially the Ocean and the local fishermen who are being driven out of business by the Big Commercial Corps.
Now I have to go find those two songs on Utube. brb!
unionworks
(3,574 posts)...(Allentown)... and a Vietnam era boomer. (We Will All Go Down Together). Enjoy!
unionworks
(3,574 posts)...at the tent! A little voodou stew for yew...
unionworks
(3,574 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)unionworks
(3,574 posts)...and shine my shoes...
unionworks
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FirstLight
(14,110 posts)I will gladly pitch a virtual tent here in solidarity! I'm in the high sierra, and the movement is stalled for winter still, not to mention these flaky mountain folk don;t really show up to events all that well....
i have a perc-pot! Total old school corningware model!...got it from a church rummage sale a year ago, for occasions such as this!
...so let's have a cup this morning and regroup 'round the homefires!
unionworks
(3,574 posts)...to one my Mom had back in the early 70s! American made to last a lifetime, and the coffe comes out much better than any Mr. Coffee type machine. What a great find, and looks elegant on your table too!
Not to mention the mountain water is probably fantastic, and it is probably like heaven when the clean crisp air fills up with the smell of fresh brewed coffee!
Welcome to the virtual campsite and also to Occupy Underground Group!
I am in a cold climate also, (Erie Pa.) But due to some early warm weather, our local Occupy is coming back to life. They are a small but intense group.
But how to use an AC coffee pot at a campsite, they laugh? Got an AC/DC inverter in the car| Ha ha ha, scoffers!
FirstLight
(14,110 posts)yep, mtn air is fine...in the summer. I HATE cold (and that seems to grow with age) so I don't venture out of my hibernation cave until June or so, lol
the water....yes, best tapwater even in the world! it even comes out as cold as the stream nearby!
good to be here, I'll keep checking in as we start to thaw as well !!!
ellisonz
(27,739 posts)...it smells like buttcrack in here, burn some incense or something.
unionworks
(3,574 posts)... smell like buttcrack in here! It smells like mountain laurels, a crisp spring breeze, and fresh brewed Maxwell House. You're just jealous because I made a new friend.
ellisonz
(27,739 posts)Hey - don't bogard that , my friend.
unionworks
(3,574 posts)... stop nagging. I'll buy some Febreeze, and maybe some Ozium too.
ellisonz
(27,739 posts)That's enough time for some serious fermentation.
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pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Be careful out there!
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pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)...especially when telling someone what to do with a shotgun vis-à-vis YOU.
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unionworks
(3,574 posts)unionworks
(3,574 posts)I can tell my sister...
unionworks
(3,574 posts).... is levitating!!!!
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unionworks
(3,574 posts)was reponding to someone under mistaken identity, all is straightened out now.
unionworks
(3,574 posts)Occupy Denver ROCKS! Came across this and just had to post it...
unionworks
(3,574 posts)...to Erie Pa. in June! Hard to believe...
unionworks
(3,574 posts)ellisonz
(27,739 posts)unionworks
(3,574 posts)...with 100 replies
I'll get the Ozium out of my pack