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[Fire Walk With Me]

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From the Good Reads forum:

Court: Chevron Can Seize Americans' Email Data (activists/journalists)

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/07/chevron-ecuador-american-email-legal-activists-journalists

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Obama attorney: NSA programs are legal

http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2013/07/19/obama-litt-national-security-agency-brookings-institution/2568589/

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While You Were Distracted By Obama.. A Bombshell In The IRS Scandal Hit

http://investmentwatchblog.com/while-you-were-distracted-by-obama-a-bombshell-in-the-irs-scandal-hit/

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Turkish court gives go-ahead to demolish Gezi Park

http://rt.com/news/gezi-demolition-turkish-court-414/

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Mission Creep: When Everything Is Terrorism

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/07/mission-creep-when-everything-is-terrorism/277844/

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Glenn Greenwald ?@ggreenwald 20 Jul

Latest big NSA disclosure from Laura Poitras/others in Germany: Der Spiegel: German Intelligence Used NSA Spy Program

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/german-intelligence-agencies-used-nsa-spying-program-a-912173.html …

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The FBI Is Approaching Seattle Climate-Change Activists #OccupySeattle

http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2013/07/17/yes-the-fbi-is-approaching-climate-change-activists …

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Julian Sanchez @normative

NSA does 3 hops. On average, 4.74 hops gets you to the ENTIRE INTERNET.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/07/nsa-admits-it-analyzes-more-peoples-data-previously-revealed/67287/ …

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[Pholus]

1. A nice collection. I really do recommend "Mission Creep" because that should be a prime convern.

Especially this paragraph:

A recent Atlantic essay asks, somewhat facetiously, "If PRISM is so good, why stop with terrorism?" The author's point was to discuss the value of the Fourth Amendment, even if it makes the police less efficient. But it's actually a very good question. Once the NSA's ubiquitous surveillance of all Americans is complete -- once it has the ability to collect and process all of our emails, phone calls, text messages, Facebook posts, location data, physical mail, financial transactions, and who knows what else -- why limit its use to cases of terrorism? I can easily imagine a public groundswell of support to use to help solve some other heinous crime, like a kidnapping. Or maybe a child-pornography case. From there, it's an easy step to enlist NSA surveillance in the continuing war on drugs; that's certainly important enough to warrant regular access to the NSA's databases. Or maybe to identify illegal immigrants. After all, we've already invested in this system, we might as well get as much out of it as we possibly can. Then it's a short jump to the trivial examples suggested in the Atlantic essay: speeding and illegal downloading. This "slippery slope" argument is largely speculative, but we've already started down that incline.

[Fire Walk With Me]

2. Combining that thought with the Chevron anti-activist/journalist ruling and Ray Kelly in DHS,

as well as TransCanada teaching police to identify and treat peaceful activists as terrorists, the Trend should be breath-takingly obvious.

[Pholus]

3. Sadly, that is not plain to many people even on this site.

Then again, reading the plank carefully I guess the words really aren't in there:

http://www.democrats.org/democratic-national-platform

I should have read this first:

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/09/democrats-retreat-civil-liberties-2012-platform

[snappyturtle]

4. I just finished reading all of these articles. Good collection to explain our

current position. I should print them out and put them aside. In the future when someone asks how we were 'taken over', I'll pull these out for some insight.

I think what is surprising to many here on DU is that all of the above is occurring under a Democratic administration. It is very difficult to swallow. We were all on our toes when bush was in office and I think we felt safe with the election of President Obama. I wish flowery language and sentimentality could make the 'intrusions' go away.....but I don't think they will. imho

[Joe Shlabotnik]

5. Thanks for posting.

That was a very short lived victory for Gezi park.

Nice to see ya around.

[Fire Walk With Me]

6. I am only here with great, vast disgust at what I see in GD.

It is only a matter of time before I tell the truth and am banned.

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