After more than a year of domestic terrorism against Occupy, Obama continues to acidically mock us

[Fire Walk With Me]

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http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/15/us-egypt-obama-statement-idUSBRE97E0QP20130815

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/transcript-president-obamas-remarks-on-egypt/2013/08/15/5f69252a-05b7-11e3-a07f-49ddc7417125_story.html

"We deplore violence against civilians. We support universal rights essential to human dignity, including the right to peaceful protest."

"Just over two years ago America was inspired by Egyptians'... desire for change," Obama continued. "We said at the time the change would not come quickly or easily, but we did align ourselves with a set of principles. Non-violence, a respect for universal rights, and a process for political and economic reform."

ORLY?

Images and video of police brutality against peaceful protesters at the DEMOCRATIC National Convention (dial-up warning, graphic image warning) :

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002710303

And that's just the one event over a period of a week or so? Much less the year+ with 7700 Occupiers arrested and two peaceful Veterans very nearly killed in Oakland by a DEMOCRATIC mayor?


Domestic terrorism: The use and threat of force (which includes arrests into the prison-industrial complex and courts system) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population for political or social purposes.

Domestic terrorism is the unlawful use, or threatened use, of force or violence by a group or individual based and operating entirely within the United States or Puerto Rico without foreign direction committed against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof in furtherance of political or social objectives.

http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/terrorism-2002-2005

Section 802 of the USA PATRIOT Act (Pub. L. No. 107-52) expanded the definition of terrorism to cover ""domestic,"" as opposed to international, terrorism. A person engages in domestic terrorism if they do an act ""dangerous to human life"" that is a violation of the criminal laws of a state or the United States, if the act appears to be intended to: (i) intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination or kidnapping. Additionally, the acts have to occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States and if they do not, may be regarded as international terrorism.

http://www.aclu.org/national-security/how-usa-patriot-act-redefines-domestic-terrorism

We revealed the true power in the country which is the Plutonomy/Plutocracy/Corporatocracy. And that the government is devoted to protecting it at the expense of US citizens. That the US government does not represent the citizens of this country.

Some 7700 of us were arrested. The DHS and FBI spied upon us from day one and shared the information across agencies (such sharing is specifically redacted in FOIA documents) =as well as with the very corporations and institutions we protested=.




For further reading:

What remains unchanged or has worsened under Obama?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023389720


Dell Cameron ?@dellcam

BREAKING: Obama condemns violence... except in #Pakistan, #Yemen, #Sudan, #Iraq, #Afghanistan, #Palestine, #Bahrain, #Libya, #Chicago...

[corkhead]

1. cue the O-Bots and apologists any second now...

[Hydra]

2. Pass me some of that

This is likely to get quite a swarm of the Ministry of Truthiness

[Fire Walk With Me]

3. There is increasingly little room within which the 'bots may writhe.

Their stated perspectives become increasingly clear cases of denial of fact. Some already sound like propaganda catapults.

[Hydra]

4. The Obama Admin has been overusing their fig leaves

I have no idea why they worked for so long, but even among the Ministry there are more and more defectors.

Good to know that the indefensible gradually becomes indefensible.

[corkhead]

5. sorry, I might have killed your thread

I wasn't sure if any bots or apologists would post on it if they were "called out" in advance.

[Fire Walk With Me]

12. Not at all, no worries. n/t

[JEB]

6. Certainly some serious repression

going on in this country. Somebody posted the 14 points if fascism and it looked as if we were in lockstep. Not the America I grew up in.

edit to add: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1016&pid=71162

[stonecutter357]

7. I am sure ron or mitt would have done better.

[jpn.best]

9. That's not the point

One can criticize the direction the Obama administration has taken and such criticism is not trumped by the snarky "Romney would have done better." I don't think that Romney would have done better; neither did most voters- that's why he lost. But it is likely that most votes were not just anti-Romney, but pro-Obama- hoping that the vision and agenda he projected was closer to the American ideal. I feel a sense of betrayal- the corporatists of Wall Street and Main Street still rule, torture has gone unpunished, NRA is confronted by speeches and no real muscle even with an opportunity to make some real change in our gun-derangement society and we have become a surveillance state. Not what I voted for. Nor did I ever expect than ron or mitt would have done anything but make it worse. Here's hoping at least that ACA (O. did not fight for single payor) helps in the long run. It's unfortunately ironic that the one piece of legislation that did pass was based on a mitt plan. Ask Madison Ave. if they ever ran an ad campaign with the statement "Well, at least it's not sh*t." Not a strong selling point or a good argument to continue to give Obama a pass. We have to develop strong progressive politicians and not be satisfied with corporatist democrats. Maybe crowning Hillary is premature- she was one of those "third way" democrats that ended up watering down the progressive agenda. Let's not be fooled again.

[chervilant]

13. + a gazillion!

Thank you for this cogent rebuttal to the trite assertion, "Would Romney have been better?!?" I am sad about the increasingly derisive and divisive discourse on this website. The more we argue, the happier are the corporatists who're running the show.

[JoeyT]

10. That's a mighty high bar you've set there.

After you're done digging it back up, can we fill the hole with water and go for a swim?

[Fire Walk With Me]

11. You're kidding, right? n/t

[dtom67]

8. I have been hesitant to assign blame to the President...

because I didn't want those that worked so hard to elect him to tune out or just blindly attack anyone who had issues with his administration. Now, however, it seems unavoidable to see that the entire government is compromised. There is enough evidence now that all rational human beings must formulate an opinion. Clinging to a sacred cow is no longer acceptable. The Executive branch is connected to intelligence services and ,as such , accountable for their actions. Check out Ray McGovern interview on the corruption of US intelligence to get an idea of how it works.

And let's be honest about the "facts"; no matter how many links we provide,it is still up to each of us to interpret the data we receive. We are all Denizens of the Net™, and we are all capable of looking this stuff up ourselves.Indeed , that is how it should be. If I demand "facts" and you post a link, is it a surprise that my next move is to denigrate your link? At some point, you have to look at all you have seen and formulate an opinion.

We constantly see post demanding that we " get the facts ", or claiming that " there is no proof";

how ridiculous.

While I DO have hope that the document that unequivocally states that the Government IS spying on us for the benefit of corporate America will arrive at my doorstep unredacted (if that is a word ), I know , deep down that it is not going to happen.

So, all the apologists out there can rest easy in the knowledge that there will be no "smoking gun". The NSA is not going just say " aw, shucks. you are right. we're sorry". They will do what they want, and We can do nothing to stop it.


Money is corrupting our system to the point that even the pretense of Democracy is eroding.

I applaud the FireWalker for spreading awareness.


it is much needed....