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billh58

(6,641 posts)
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 05:20 PM Aug 2016

Trump's "Second Amendment People" Advisor and Inspiration

Larry Pratt: If Conservatives Lose The Supreme Court, We May 'Have To Resort To The Bullet Box'

Larry Pratt, the executive director emeritus of Gun Owners of America, said on his “Gun Owners News Hour” radio program this weekend that if a Democrat wins the White House and the Supreme Court starts issuing decisions in favor of gun regulations, conservatives may turn to the “bullet box” to rectify the situation.

Pratt was interviewing Robert Knight, a senior fellow at the American Civil Rights Union, who warned that “if a liberal Democrat is elected president, then there goes the Supreme Court, it could be two, three, four justices, and I think the Second Amendment would be in great peril if that happens.”

Pratt responded that if such a court interprets the Constitution in ways that conservatives don’t like, they may have to restore “proper constitutional balance” through the “bullet box”:

And at that point, we would have to come to an understanding, which we’ve been sort of taught, it’s been taught out of us, that the courts do not have the last word on what the Constitution is. They decide particular cases, they don’t make law. Their decisions, unlike the Roe v. Wade usurpation, don’t extend to the whole of society, they’re not supposed to. And we may have to reassert that proper constitutional balance, and it may not be pretty. So, I’d much rather have an election where we solve this matter at the ballot box than have to resort to the bullet box.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/larry-pratt-if-conservatives-lose-supreme-court-they-may-have-resort-bullet-box


This is the real right-wing gun lobby, and a large part of Donald Trump's "think tank." Like Trump, these people are both deranged and dangerous. Apologists for this anti-American rubbish are just as guilty of sedition (if not treason) as the right-wing gun nuts who feed on their admiration.
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Trump's "Second Amendment People" Advisor and Inspiration (Original Post) billh58 Aug 2016 OP
I see a TV commercial coming.. C_U_L8R Aug 2016 #1
Neither gun owners, gun groups, gun manufacturers define the rule of law. MichiganVote Aug 2016 #2
They are claiming "moral authority" billh58 Aug 2016 #3
Yep. n/t Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #4
Both Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot claimed moral authority. So have a score of other societaldeadbeats. MichiganVote Aug 2016 #8
They're so convinced by their paranoid delusions, they just might... Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #5
Sharon Angle from 2010 billh58 Aug 2016 #6
never mind that scalia & pals made it TOO easy for the gun fetish side. pansypoo53219 Aug 2016 #7
Just one of the many times... Jerry442 Aug 2016 #10
You know, if I were a fan of the expansive interpretation of 2A... Jerry442 Aug 2016 #9

C_U_L8R

(45,695 posts)
1. I see a TV commercial coming..
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 05:26 PM
Aug 2016

featuring Trumpenfuehrer with his 2nd Amendment call to arms....
surrounded by a 1000 cuts of rightwing wackadoodles making
the exact same threat. Hey Trump, take that 2nd Amendment
Solution and stick up your orangutang...

 

MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
2. Neither gun owners, gun groups, gun manufacturers define the rule of law.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 05:35 PM
Aug 2016

I don't believe these people are conservatives. They say they are one thing but what they do advocates anarchy, "a state of disorder due to absence or nonrecognition of authority".

The Rule of Law essentially has 5 principles:
The scholar Rachel Kleinfeld Belton identifies five:

1. a government bound by and ruled by law;
2. equality before the law;
3. the establishment of law and order;
4. the efficient and predictable application of justice; and
5. the protection of human rights.

billh58

(6,641 posts)
3. They are claiming "moral authority"
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 05:49 PM
Aug 2016

where none exists all because of a 5-4 conservative SCOTUS decision (Heller). These Second Amendment absolutists are a cult of obsessed worshipers of a faux religion based on death and destruction, and try to convince themselves that they are "patriots" defending the Constitution.

 

MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
8. Both Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot claimed moral authority. So have a score of other societaldeadbeats.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 06:37 PM
Aug 2016

These people are endorsing vigilantism and anarchy.
I don't care if people have guns, I don't think most Americans do. BUT, I do care that crazy people easily obtain high powered weaponry to shot the shit out of kids in schools, people praying, college students in class and so on. New guns, new situations, new limits on the right people at the right time. We simply can't afford not to look hard at this issue.

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,042 posts)
5. They're so convinced by their paranoid delusions, they just might...
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 05:59 PM
Aug 2016

... make them come true if they keep pushing it.

I'm about tempted to see their guns taken away and sending them to "camps."

No, not really, but they're mentally SCREWED UP!

billh58

(6,641 posts)
6. Sharon Angle from 2010
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 06:05 PM
Aug 2016
Sharron Angle floated possibility of armed insurrection

Here's another one that could be tough for Sharron Angle to explain away: In an interview in January, Angle appeared to float the possibility of armed insurrection if "this Congress keeps going the way it is."

-Snip-

The most charitable interpretation here was that Angle was floating armed insurrection -- or "Second Amendment remedies" -- as a defensible response if electoral politics fails to change where things are headed under the current regime.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/06/sharron_angle_floated_possibil.html


This appears to be a prevalent theme in Republican right-wing politics: "If things don't go our way, it is a result of Liberal government tyranny, and the Second Amendment gives us the right to armed insurrection." History is not on their side as evidenced by the last attempt at this madness.

pansypoo53219

(21,724 posts)
7. never mind that scalia & pals made it TOO easy for the gun fetish side.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 06:25 PM
Aug 2016

WELL REGULATED IS IN THE 2ND AMENDMENT AS WELL.

Jerry442

(1,265 posts)
9. You know, if I were a fan of the expansive interpretation of 2A...
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 08:43 AM
Aug 2016

...I'd be deeply offended by Donald Trump's broad hint that I and like-minded people could be tapped as hit men to undo an election with an outcome he didn't like. I might even go so far as to say that this kind of talk is a much greater threat to 2A rights than any modest attempt to regulate gun ownership and use. I wouldn't be shy about telling people that.

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