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flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 05:10 PM Sep 2016

10 Essential Facts About Guns and Suicide

https://www.thetrace.org/2016/09/10-facts-guns-suicide-prevention-month/


The decision to end one’s own life is often an impulse. When firearms are involved, that impulse is almost always fatal.

Guns are not the most common means of suicide attempt, but they result in more deaths than every other method combined.



This is a very good read.

There are those who will say, "Hey, they'll just use something else." That's patently and provably wrong. Only one in ten failed suicides goes on to actually consummate the act. In nine cases out of ten suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. The number of veterans committing suicide is skyrocketing and most using guns. Yea! Support the troops! Get yerself a yella ribbon!

States with more guns have more suicides. Period, end of discussion.



There are those who say that suicide shouldn't be considered gun violence. Okay, do a google image search on suicide + gun and consider that most suicides are found by loved ones and then tell me that's not an act of violence.

30,000 deaths and 100,000 injuries at the cost of $260 Billion a year.

It's time.

It's past time.

We have a platform and we have a discussion at the highest levels of government. We have a movement to counter the power of the NRA and gun lobby.

Go. Vote. Be a single issue voter if only for a few election cycles.
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10 Essential Facts About Guns and Suicide (Original Post) flamin lib Sep 2016 OP
Wyoming, Montana, Idaho mountain grammy Sep 2016 #1
It's been that way for many years. Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2016 #2
Interesting.. middle aged white men. mountain grammy Sep 2016 #3
Not enough family support. Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2016 #4
Yes, I think that's one explanation. mountain grammy Sep 2016 #5
I'm sorry to read that. Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2016 #6
Thank you. mountain grammy Sep 2016 #7
I'm sorry. Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2016 #8
Not enough family support is so true Divine Discontent Sep 2016 #9

mountain grammy

(27,276 posts)
1. Wyoming, Montana, Idaho
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 08:15 PM
Sep 2016

all state with populations of less than 2 million. Wyoming has far less than 1 million. Seems strange they have the highest suicide rates.

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,042 posts)
2. It's been that way for many years.
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 08:35 PM
Sep 2016

This sounds silly, but my brother told me back in the 80's (when he lived in Colorado and visited all of those states frequently) that he thought the wind might play a role! He claimed that constant high winds in Wyoming quickly depressed him when he stayed there awhile.

I'd look at alcohol abuse too.

Middle-aged white men are also the most likely to commit suicide in this country. I suspect it's because they believe that they can't ask for help... because of all that white male privilege they receive.

White males in those states might be especially cowboy-like in their refusal to get help.

http://trib.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/wyoming-suicide-rate-alarmingly-high-so-far-in/article_e75ede0c-f088-542b-819f-947bc53011e7.html

Middle-aged, white men are the largest demographic of men who take their own lives, Humphries-Wadsworth said.

mountain grammy

(27,276 posts)
3. Interesting.. middle aged white men.
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 08:43 PM
Sep 2016

and those states abound with them. Funny how we see white men as having the most privilege, and they do. Maybe it's the inability to deal with lack of success, when success is so important to white men and they have a clear shot at it most of the time. It's obvious I have no clue, but it's interesting.

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,042 posts)
4. Not enough family support.
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 09:48 PM
Sep 2016

These white people in Kentucky are deemed poor because they don't have running water or electricity, but I wonder what their family life is like?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2134196/Pictured-The-modern-day-poverty-Kentucky-people-live-running-water-electricity.html

There's many white families who are pretty harsh to family members who aren't "successful."

People were in family-oriented tribes for about 95% of humanity's history. There's now more of a push to disregard family in order to pursue economic success.

I posted a few minutes ago in another thread that my parents told the cops to put me in jail and keep me there after I foolishly joined some friends in a minor act of vandalism to our school. I had a 3.8 GPA, taking all of the "advanced" coursework at my high school, and I had never been in trouble.

The neighbor boy had it far worse. At least my parents didn't treat my home life like boot camp. The neighbor kid's father was like the ex-military neighbor man depicted in "American Beauty" (except maybe he wasn't gay). That kid attempted suicide at age 16, but he survived. He seems to be doing okay now, many years later. I saw him a few years ago by happenstance.

mountain grammy

(27,276 posts)
5. Yes, I think that's one explanation.
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 10:05 PM
Sep 2016

We lost a nephew to suicide. He was smothered by family, my brother in law and his family are very close. I think it was fine for all the kids except him. He was different. He always talked about coming to Colorado to stay with us, He loved his visits here. I begged him to do that, but he never would. Now he's gone.

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,042 posts)
6. I'm sorry to read that.
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 10:15 PM
Sep 2016

Was you nephew a teenager? I think it's higher in that age group as well.

The boy who lived next door to me was treated differently than his two sisters. They could apparently do no wrong, but his weird father made life hard on him.

mountain grammy

(27,276 posts)
7. Thank you.
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 12:33 AM
Sep 2016

He was 21. Last time I saw him was at his grandmother's funeral (my mother in law.) He was newly married, with a brand new baby and he was wearing an ankle bracelet. He'd been busted for drugs, meth, pills. We talked and he said he was really trying to get his life together for the baby and everyone. He was sad, we were all sad. He hung himself a month later. His mother found him. She had the baby with her. That was eight years ago next month.

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,042 posts)
8. I'm sorry.
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 09:06 PM
Sep 2016

That's too bad. He was obviously young and had a lot on his plate, and withdrawal can be devastating if he was going through that as well.

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