4 Dead, 24 Wounded in Weekend Chicago Violence

[billh58]

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/4-dead-24-wounded-weekend-chicago-violence-n96851

At least 28 people have been shot in Chicago, four of them fatally, since Friday afternoon, police said.

The weekend’s latest homicide took place around 11:35 p.m. when police said a man was shot in the back in the 9200 block of South Emerald Avenue. The man, whose age was not immediately known, was taken to Advocate Christ Medical Center where he was pronounced dead, police said.

Area South detectives are investigating the shooting, but further details were not immediately available, police said.

About 15 minutes earlier, two men were shot in the 7300 block of South Oglesby Avenue. An 18-year-old man suffered a wound to the leg and was transported to Northwestern Memorial Hospital in stable condition. A 28-year-old man was shot in the back and transported to South Shore Hospital in serious condition, officials said.

Where are all of the "good guys with a gun?" Wasn't Chicago gun violence supposed to be caused by strict gun control laws? Are the guns being used still coming from surrounding areas with lax gun laws?

Support a gun control organization of your choice today in any way that you can. The future of our children depends on your actions to defeat the right-wing gun lobby and those who profit from it.

[yeoman6987]

1. Wasn't last week 9 and a month a go 13

Seems to be getting better to me. Chicago needs to do something but what?

[billh58]

2. So the people who were

shot but didn't die don't count in your book? Do you actually believe that relaxed gun laws in Chicago is the cause of things "getting better?" Really? Your question, "Chicago needs to do something, but what?" is right out of the NRA/Gungeon scripted talking point of attempting to deflect the blame for gun violence on anyone but the right-wing gun lobby.

There is no one quick fix for the gun violence problem in this nation, and Chicago is just a very visible symptom. The answer lies in defeating the right-wing gun lobby and their marketing arm, the NRA. We need universal and stringent background checks before anyone can purchase a lethal weapon. We need local permitting to purchase, and meaningful waiting periods. In short, we need to raise the standards nationwide for purchasing a firearm, and make them more difficult to obtain.

The Constitution does not preclude limiting and regulating the Second Amendment, and when compared to the other civil rights enumerated by the Bill of Rights, is the only one with the potential cause instant death. We should not treat the "right" to bear arms with the same latitude as we treat the "right" to free speech. Hate speech does not kill, but a hateful person with a gun can, and often does, cause death and injury.

[yeoman6987]

3. You practically can't own a gun in Chicago.

They have some of the toughs gun laws. And it is a progressive city with Democratic everything. And yes something needs to be done.

[billh58]

4. You didn't address any of my

points, which leads me to believe that you are here to disrupt this Group. The "tough gun laws" in Chicago have been mostly overturned by recent NRA lawsuits, and I suspect that you know that.

Chicago guns involved in gang violence there have been documented by the Chicago police as coming from nearby counties and states with lax firearm laws, and that is a problem all over this nation.

If you are not here to support gun control, and contribute to the solution, I suggest that you enjoy your short stay in this safe haven Group.

[Skittles]

5. "with Democrats and everything"

LOL, I can't see through you; not at ALL."

[yeoman6987]

6. I did not write that quote.

I can't see through YOU; nope not at all.......

[Skittles]

7. alright, with "DEMOCRATIC EVERYTHING"

doesn't matter WHAT they have as long as they are surrounded by gun humping NRA supported ASSHOLES
*STILL seeing through you*

[yeoman6987]

9. I proved that you are not seeing ANYTHING!

[Skittles]

10. EDUCATE YOURSELF

and stop acting like America doesn't have a gun problem or that black victims do not count

http://www.businessinsider.com/americas-gun-problem-explained-2013-4?op=1

otherwise, there are plenty of other ignorant sites that would WELCOME you

[yeoman6987]

12. Oh my gosh

I do act like America has a problem. Why do you think I said we have to do something.

[yeoman6987]

8. The City Council of Chicago. Why are you so upset with facts. We should be proud of this.

Chicago aldermen[edit]
The last election was held in 2011, with new members being sworn in on May 16, 2011.

Ward Name First elected Party
1 Proco Joe Moreno 2010* Democratic
2 Robert Fioretti 2007 Democratic
3 Pat Dowell 2007 Democratic
4 Will Burns 2011 Democratic
5 Leslie Hairston 1999 Democratic
6 Roderick Sawyer 2011 Democratic
7 Natashia Holmes 2013* Democratic
8 Michelle A. Harris 2006* Democratic
9 Anthony Beale 1999 Democratic
10 John Pope 1999 Democratic
11 James Balcer 1997* Democratic
12 George Cardenas 2003 Democratic
13 Marty Quinn 2011 Democratic
14 Edward M. Burke 1969 Democratic
15 Toni Foulkes 2007 Democratic
16 Joann Thompson 2007 Democratic
17 Latasha Thomas 2000* Democratic
18 Lona Lane 2006* Democratic
19 Matthew O'Shea 2011 Democratic
20 Willie Cochran 2007 Democratic
21 Howard Brookins Jr. 2003 Democratic
22 Ricardo Muñoz 1993* Democratic
23 Michael Zalewski 1995 Democratic
24 Michael Chandler 2011 Democratic
25 Daniel Solis 1996* Democratic
26 Roberto Maldonado 2009* Democratic
27 Walter Burnett, Jr. 1995 Democratic
28 Jason Ervin 2011* Democratic
29 Deborah L. Graham 2010* Democratic
30 Ariel Reboyras 2003 Democratic
31 Ray Suarez 1991 Democratic
32 Scott Waguespack 2007 Democratic
33 Deb Mell 2013* Democratic
34 Carrie Austin 1994* Democratic
35 Rey Colón 2003 Democratic
36 Nicholas Sposato 2011 Democratic
37 Emma Mitts 2000* Democratic
38 Timothy Cullerton 2011* Democratic
39 Margaret Laurino 1994* Democratic
40 Patrick J. O'Connor 1983 Democratic
41 Mary O'Connor 2011 Democratic
42 Brendan Reilly 2007 Democratic
43 Michele Smith 2011 Democratic
44 Thomas M. Tunney 2002* Democratic
45 John Arena 2011 Democratic
46 James Cappleman 2011 Democratic
47 Ameya Pawar 2011 Democratic
48 Harry Osterman 2011 Democratic
49 Joe Moore 1991 Democratic
50 Debra Silverstein 2011 Democratic

[Skittles]

11. do you not fucking get it?

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/01/29/us/where-50000-guns-in-chicago-came-from.html?_r=0

THESE GUNS ARE COMING FROM OUTSIDE OF CHICAGO - and stop with this WE shit - I AM NOT LIKE YOU

now I am DONE here

[yeoman6987]

13. You are correct that you are not like me

I am a liberal and you are a conservative.

[jimmy the one]

16. where have you been, yeoman?

yeoman: You practically can't own a gun in Chicago. They have some of the toughs gun laws

This is baloney; even when Chicago's handgun ban was in effect people could still own rifles & longguns, which turns your above remark into misinformation &/or disinformation as well as a misleading rightwing talking point - pick on Chicago & ignore the STINK in progun city's backyards, those with comparable or higher crime & guncrime than Chicago (like Houston, Chattanooga, richmondva, Memphis & more).
And where have you been? their handgun ban was overturned 2010, that's 4 years back, & people are 'flocking' to get foids (just ask the gunnuts on rkba board) so chicagoans can buy guns (I heard the pink pistols want a pink foyd).
In fact, the recent surge from 400 murders per year to 500 last year was AFTER Chicagoans were allowed handguns in Chicago, & thousands did. So it's more like MORE GUNS MORE MURDERS.
I also think chicago's violent crime rate went down ~10% the very year the murder spiked to 500, so it's like what's up doc.

And it is a progressive city with Democratic everything.. something needs to be done.

Chicago (FLASH) is the 3rd largest populated city in America, so their weekly & monthly crime totals will of course tend to be higher than smaller cities. But their crime rate, which is the better way to compare cities, is generally on a par with other large pro gun cities, like Houston.
New York city has low violent crime rate, about 400/100k iirc, which is one of the lowest violent crime rates of the ~35 large American cities > 500,000.

[billh58]

14. Obviously this one

doesn't "get it" because it's an NRA apologist.

[billh58]

15. The Right-Wing SCOTUS

John Roberts - Republican (Dubya extreme right-wing)
Antonin Scalia - Republican (Reagan demented right-wing)
Clarence Thomas - Republican (Poppy Bush sniveling right-wing)
Samuel Alito - Republican (Dubya bought-and-paid-for right-wing)
Anthony Kennedy - Republican (Reagan puppet right-wing)

These are the traitors who brought us Citizen's United and Heller, among other extremist right-wing atrocities.