Gunnut Claim ruled FALSE by politifact
FALSE: New Hampshire Republican Jim Rubens says armed civilians drastically reduce casualties during mass shootings ... Says when armed civilians stop mass shootings with guns, an average of 2.5 people die; otherwise, an average of 18 people die. (I think/glean that Rubens is in the GOP primary with scott brown to run for senator).
Refutal: ..an academic study published in an FBI Law Enforcement Bulletin by Dr. Pete Blair, dir of research Advanced Law Enforcement Rapid Response Training Center (ALERRT) and assoc prof criminal justice Texas State Uni...
Blair and two other researchers examined more than 100 shootings between 2000 and 2012, investigating factors such as average response time of law enforcement and outcomes based on the actions taken by civilians at the scene... the study found the median number of people shot is 5 (excluding the perpetrator).
.. Blair said it’s logical to assume casualties would be lower when civilians intervene before police arrive, but his research documented very few incidents that were actually stopped because a civilian was carrying a gun..... Blair said he found only three cases in which an armed civilian shot the attacker, and in two of those incidents, the civilian who took action was an off-duty police officer.
Roughly half of all active shooter events Blair studied ended before law enforcement officers arrived. The most common occurrence was that the shooter stopped the attack spontaneously on their own. .. When those who remained either ran away or barricaded themselves, shooters often made the decision to leave the attack site or commit suicide..
Blair said he also documented cases in which civilians took direct action. Civilians stopped about one out of every six active shooter events, but their actions rarely involved the use of firearms.. The most common method was tackling the attacker, as was the case during a campus shooting in Seattle this week.
Blair said it would be difficult to draw any conclusions about the effectiveness of armed civilians in stopping active shooter events based on the limited data that exists. In general though, Blair said, fewer people were killed or injured in the events that ended before police showed up at the scene -- either because {UNARMED} civilians took action, or because the shooter spontaneously stopped or committed suicide. http://www.politifact.com/new-hampshire/statements/2014/jun/06/jim-rubens/jim-rubens-says-when-armed-civilians-stop-mass-sho/
Another canard from the 2nd Amendment Mythology Bible, bites the dust.
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Not really gunny but more sh** from ted the sh**hed, disproved by politifact:
politifact: Ted Nugent, the one-time rock guitarist turned Second Amendment rights activist, could probably stand to brush up on his Web surfing skills.
A few days ago, Nugent posted a horrific photo on Facebook of a bearded man, bloody knife in hand, squatting behind five gory heads. "One of the subhuman mongrels our president set free," Nugent wrote in the caption. "Feel safer yet?" (Nugent created a controversy earlier this year when he called President Barack Obama a "subhuman mongrel."
we wanted to check whether the man in the photo is one of the five Taliban leaders released from Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, in exchange for Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl.
He is not and there is no way that he could be.
The image reportedly was tweeted by the man in the photo on March 15 and not one of the five Taliban prisoners. ... For starters, the five Taliban officials were released May 31, 2014, more than two months after the image was first released.
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/jun/16/ted-nugent/nugent-ties-gory-photo-bergdahl-prisoner-swap/
Why does the nra allow this 'subhuman gunnut' to remain on it's board of directors? imagine if a gun control group had some equivalent to this creep.
(Politifact did judge Obama's 'people can keep existing doctors under obamacare' as the number one lie last year, but Obama & politifact should get some slack on that since it wasn't intentional, just a quirk which arose from the plan's implementation, acknowledged by obama & is being corrected. Contrast with ted nugents malicious drivel.)