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billh58

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Tue Jan 27, 2015, 12:27 AM Jan 2015

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... shenmue Jan 2015 #1
Yup. So fucked up. Control-Z Jan 2015 #2
Guess that safe was too expensive BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #3
A simple gun lock would have done it. Unknown Beatle Jan 2015 #4
often disregarded or not used jimmy the one Jan 2015 #7
If your going to have a gun newfie11 Jan 2015 #5
'Murica Flo Mingo Jan 2015 #6

shenmue

(38,537 posts)
1. ...
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 12:42 AM
Jan 2015


When I was a kid, we played with cap guns.

Control-Z

(15,684 posts)
2. Yup. So fucked up.
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 12:43 AM
Jan 2015

K&R

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
3. Guess that safe was too expensive
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 01:06 AM
Jan 2015

Unknown Beatle

(2,688 posts)
4. A simple gun lock would have done it.
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 05:25 AM
Jan 2015

They come in all sizes.

jimmy the one

(2,717 posts)
7. often disregarded or not used
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 10:32 AM
Jan 2015

Unknown Beatle A simple gun lock would have done it. They come in all sizes.

And gun locks have been around & available for decades, yet still around 20% -30% of gun owners with children leave their guns unlocked & sometimes loaded or with accessible ammo nearby.
Accidental gun deaths tend lower in states with firearm storage laws & c.a.p. laws (child access prevention laws), and tend higher in states with little gun control.
The trigger lock law in Washington DC (&/or firearm disassembly), for a ten-year run at least, there were zero accidental child deaths by firearms (0 - 14yo) (wisqars source).

The trigger locks in your picture appear to be on the high side, cost wise, tho I've never bought one like that; a simple thicker lock resembling a bicycle lock, is available for a lot less I believe. In fact I have two, & they were free, given out by pennsy atty general Katherine Baker Knoll (sp) at an election rally I went to for john Kerry - but alas, had no firearms to use them with, they do double as short bike locks!

newfie11

(8,159 posts)
5. If your going to have a gun
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 05:44 AM
Jan 2015

Then teach kids respect for them. These boys are/were teenagers. They should have known a gun is not a toy.
I grew up with rifles in the house, my kids did to.
I've got grandkids that hunt.
Never never would any of us use a gun in the manor these boys did.

Maybe it's because we live rural and pretty much every house in 20 miles radius has firearms but I've never seen anyone parading around town with a rifle or a gun strapped to them.


SW South Dakota here.

Flo Mingo

(494 posts)
6. 'Murica
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 08:27 AM
Jan 2015

Where you can be arrested for letting your child walk home alone, because that's child endangerment

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026096499

but get a "Get out of Jail Free" card when you kid finds your gun and kills him/herself or someone else, because.........well..........IDFK

Gawd Blez uhMurica

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