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RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 10:33 AM Dec 2014

Elizabeth Warren For President Goes Viral: Watch Out Hillary, Wall Street, and Corporate Republicans

Elizabeth Warren For President Goes Viral: Watch Out Hillary, Wall Street, and Corporate Republicans and Democrats
12/17/14



This is getting insane!

My Huffington Post piece "The Speech That Could Make Elizabeth Warren The Next President of the United States" has gone totally viral.

Since it was posted last weekend, it was been Liked by over 217,000 people, been reposted to over 34,000 Facebook pages, been commented on by 1,800 people, and been tweeted over 1,800 times (including by Mark Ruffalo to his 1,200,000 followers). The numbers are still growing by the thousands every few hours.

In my eight years of writing for the Huffington Post, this is a record by more than 10 times over, and, from what I can tell, is one of the most followed blogs ever on HuffPost. I may write well enough, but I can't really take credit for this extraordinary viral phenomenon.

Instead, it seems to have tapped into a political and cultural zeitgeist of hundreds of thousands, or millions of people who are longing for an authentic leader like Sen. Warren who speaks truth to power and is willing to stand up to the most powerful forces in the country, whether it's calling out Wall Street banks by name, or even opposing the President and Majority Leader of her own party.


It's a zeitgeist that's Not Ready for Hillary, a corporate Democrat with deep financial, political, and personal ties to Wall Street.

And with Jeb Bush seriously exploring running on the Republican side, it's a zeitgeist that's definitely not ready for Bush vs. Clinton redux 2016. How's that for back to the future? But with the money-raising prowess of Clinton, Inc. and Bush, Inc., and the backing of the most powerful corporate interests for the corporate wings of both parties, it's a distinct, and disturbing possibility. To use a saying from the Bush/Clinton '90s, "gag me with a spoon"....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/miles-mogulescu/elizabeth-warren-for-pres_b_6338608.html


In case anyone missed it~

The Speech That Could Make Elizabeth Warren the Next President of the United States
12/13/14

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/miles-mogulescu/the-speech-that-could-make-elizabeth-warren-president_b_6319142.html


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Elizabeth Warren For President Goes Viral: Watch Out Hillary, Wall Street, and Corporate Republicans (Original Post) RiverLover Dec 2014 OP
What depresses me is she is not running, Bernie is...this really messes up his ability NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #1
Years ago there were many local banks in every town. They may have been connected in some way jwirr Dec 2014 #31
Not at all.... zentrum Dec 2014 #40
That is all true but he needs some DU time and media time NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #56
How about asking Elizabeth Warren to support Bernie Sanders' running? That would be one way of Cal33 Dec 2014 #66
Why does OWS come to mind with this? Well I am quite sure those involved with that movement... L0oniX Dec 2014 #2
Have you seen these vids, L0onix, from when she was running for the senate? RiverLover Dec 2014 #7
unless the left gives rw radio the attention it deserves she will follow OWS certainot Dec 2014 #42
How could we end RW radio & FoxFiction? (Legally) RiverLover Dec 2014 #48
a few legal things the left can do to beat republicon radio certainot Dec 2014 #52
Thanks for all the info. I had no idea about "Club Gitmo" shirts, etc. RiverLover Dec 2014 #54
Great ideas. Thanks. JDPriestly Dec 2014 #59
rw radio deserves attention? I believe Rush sponsors are down to viagra and wild turkey. L0oniX Dec 2014 #49
the alternate reality they have established the last 25 years still dominates an certainot Dec 2014 #53
I'd happily support Warren - IF SHE WERE RUNNING groundloop Dec 2014 #3
She's made it abundantly clear that at present, she isn't running. Thanks in advance for your RiverLover Dec 2014 #4
she did say that azureblue Dec 2014 #5
She isn't running. End of story. Only an insane person would think there is any hope of it. RBInMaine Dec 2014 #11
It is insane to think she's running in 2016. She has repeatedly said she isn't. Enough already. RBInMaine Dec 2014 #12
She has repeatedly said she isn't running... thesquanderer Dec 2014 #22
Well said. RiverLover Dec 2014 #30
You do realize you are posting in the "Elizabeth Warren Group" don't you? L0oniX Dec 2014 #25
Mama said... jamesatemple Dec 2014 #33
No one ever stops to think that she just might think she can do more as a Senator. After all jwirr Dec 2014 #34
Enough already. Right back at ya. You spend WAY too much time posting the same thing. stillwaiting Dec 2014 #39
There you go again... LiberalElite Dec 2014 #45
DUers REALLY, REALLY wants Warren to run. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #6
But she's not running. So enough of the pipe dream. It is entirely wasted energy. RBInMaine Dec 2014 #9
But DUers REALLY, REALLY, REALLY want Warren to run.n/t 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #15
And many children REALLY REALLY REALLY believe in Santa Claus. RBInMaine Dec 2014 #19
300 people who helped elect Obama are supporting a Warren candidacy, are they crazy too? RiverLover Dec 2014 #32
"children"? We're not only crazy LiberalElite Dec 2014 #46
Did you read her booki? JDPriestly Dec 2014 #58
Have you read her book, A Fighting Chance? JDPriestly Dec 2014 #57
Yeah, it's only a few DU members. Outdside of DU, no one has ever heard of her. Scuba Dec 2014 #64
You are exactly right. But, sadly, some here choose to live in an alternate universe. RBInMaine Dec 2014 #13
I will ask you what I ask all who say that Warren is not running. JDPriestly Dec 2014 #60
The point is that this is about a movement it isn't about Sen Warren. Sure we want her to rhett o rick Dec 2014 #63
She's not running. So kindly stop the insanity of these posts. RBInMaine Dec 2014 #8
I for one am happy that you don't control DU. L0oniX Dec 2014 #10
I for one don't live in fantasy land. She has said over and over she isn't running for President. RBInMaine Dec 2014 #16
And she isn't running. No one is. Yet. RiverLover Dec 2014 #18
Warren has repeatedly said she isn't running in 2016. This "present tense" stuff is CRAZY. RBInMaine Dec 2014 #21
So did Hillary a2liberal Dec 2014 #41
Clue: That doesn't matter. People like her and what she says nails it. Good luck subduing that. L0oniX Dec 2014 #20
I think she's GREAT and would welcome her to it. But she IS NOT GOING TO RUN in 2016. Deal with it. RBInMaine Dec 2014 #23
I'm sure you are not the only one who wants to shut her up. Good luck. L0oniX Dec 2014 #26
People still want Warren to run. YOU deal with it. nt LiberalElite Dec 2014 #47
If Joseph Kennedy III and Keith Ellison can back her before she announces, RiverLover Dec 2014 #14
absolutely. Faryn Balyncd Dec 2014 #17
Thanks for posting the link, FnB!! RiverLover Dec 2014 #28
You are right. It IS "insane" because WARREN IS NOT GOING TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT IN 2016. RBInMaine Dec 2014 #24
You mad bro? L0oniX Dec 2014 #27
That's just it. She hasn't said that. RiverLover Dec 2014 #29
I love that we live in a free country and can continue our efforts at drafting the candidate we like stillwaiting Dec 2014 #36
I guess that explains why Hillary's supporters are so relaxed about Warren's popularity nxylas Dec 2014 #37
LOL RiverLover Dec 2014 #44
^^^THIS^^^ L0oniX Dec 2014 #50
She may mot have a choice. The Democratic Party may beg her to run with so much JDPriestly Dec 2014 #61
Elizabeth Warren In WHITE??? JGug1 Dec 2014 #35
You're pro-Hillary in the Elizabeth Warren group, so here's some things you must not know~ RiverLover Dec 2014 #38
How much foreign policy experience did Obama have in 2008? n/t Kermitt Gribble Dec 2014 #55
I Think She Could Run.... supercats Dec 2014 #43
That's how I feel too, supercats, but I don't think we'll have to "force" her. RiverLover Dec 2014 #51
she didn't add that...YOU did! VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #65
Learn English. Present tense MEANS "now" She doesn't she say isn't going to run. RiverLover Dec 2014 #67
learn English VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #68
she is up for reelection in 2018 VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #69
Elizabeth Warren has the power and ability to lead a political revolution in this country. Jacoby365 Dec 2014 #62

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
1. What depresses me is she is not running, Bernie is...this really messes up his ability
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 10:37 AM
Dec 2014

to get the attention he will need.

Warren is not running, there is a reason why, there has been a deal struck between her and Hillary, I bet everything on that.

Bernie Sanders for President



BTW, when she says broken into pieces, she means that literally, right?

That the entity should have been restructured, right?

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
31. Years ago there were many local banks in every town. They may have been connected in some way
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 12:10 PM
Dec 2014

but not like today. Most were locally owned. If I am not mistaken there is today something like 5 huge banks that are connected to most of the main street banks. Back then our money was in a local bank that mostly borrowed to local needs and did not use our money in an international casino that had to be bailed out every now and then. Also back then there was no such thing as too big to fail. If one bank failed it did not take the entire international banking system with it.

zentrum

(9,866 posts)
40. Not at all....
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 12:58 PM
Dec 2014

She helps him. The message is the same and she's a great explainer. She makes Bernie's policies much more palatable to people in the Middle because his style is so gallumping. She does not take away attention from him, but rather adds credence and accessibility and together they develop the liberal/progressive voice.

It's great to have two of these guys!

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
66. How about asking Elizabeth Warren to support Bernie Sanders' running? That would be one way of
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:08 PM
Dec 2014

putting your mind at ease.

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
2. Why does OWS come to mind with this? Well I am quite sure those involved with that movement...
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 10:40 AM
Dec 2014

are paying much attention to Warren ...and I believe that means a hell of a lot of people are very interested in her ...especially after this speech.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
7. Have you seen these vids, L0onix, from when she was running for the senate?
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 11:31 AM
Dec 2014

She absolutely embraces OWS, even as she's being attacked for it by Carl Rove.

I LOVE it.



(Notice they open her segment with, "The woman who dominated the Democratic field for senate in Massachusetts before she even announced she was running.&quot


Another OWS blast from the past~




 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
42. unless the left gives rw radio the attention it deserves she will follow OWS
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 01:27 PM
Dec 2014

OWS was yelled over by 400 blowhards with big megaphones who could keep going long after the protestors were kicked off the streets- by cops listening to rw radio, working for local pols, enabled by media who all felt the dominating unchallenged anti -OWS buzz .

if the left wants warren to run and win it has to start challenging the right's best weapon. the one that kept her off the administration and regularly wins elections for dipshits like brown, who wouldn't have been anywhere near the senate in the first place without rw radio.

until the left stops ignoring the right's best weapon it cannot say it is or will get warren's back. until then it should not be encouraging her to run- no progressive/liberal like her should be encouraged to run in an environment where her enemies can take free pot shots all day long.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
48. How could we end RW radio & FoxFiction? (Legally)
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 01:58 PM
Dec 2014

What you are proposing is that progressives can NEVER have a voice in the conversation because RW radio? They will skewer ANY Democratic candidate. Look what they did to Obama?

He still won.

You're being too pessimistic.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
52. a few legal things the left can do to beat republicon radio
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 02:27 PM
Dec 2014

but first "he still won"---

relative to what? he won and should have. what has happened since then? why the left can thank republican radio for most all major and minor liberal/dem defeats and compromises the last 25 years. why can't we have a fact based national discussion on any major issue? why do 1% have so many people on their side, based almost entirely on an alternate reality?

how to beat it legally?

1) more than 35% (recently revised from 28%) of limbaugh radio stations inc many of the loudest in the country depend on the community cred and ad revenue they get from broadcasting state funded university/college sports. students for warren or any major progressive issue are being undermined by their own unis in exchange for what may be peanuts. push a few colleges to honor their mission statements and look for apolitical alts and others will be shamed into following and that rw radio monopoly would fall apart.

2) include those stations in protests/picketing. those are teabag/GOP HQs. any significant protest movement has to be louder than the local and national blowhards and they have to last longer. almost any liberal issue can be relevantly protested there. right now those stations spend a lot of time excusing racism and police brutality. limbaugh has been selling CLUB GITMO tees and mugs for a decade or so and i heard more of it the other day- close to 100 college sports teams help him sell that shit and make torture acceptable.

3) use modern software to record and transcribe and search what the major blowhards are saying, and then respond to it in real time instead of letting our candidates get attacked and our issues distorted without response and having to play catchup, as has been the norm the last 25 years.

4) stop crediting fox for what rw radio does. fox is rw radios asshole little brother and wouldn't last long without radio's groundwork repetition.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
59. Great ideas. Thanks.
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 04:22 PM
Dec 2014

I wish that Clinton had not signed the Telecommunications Act that allowed a few interests to buy up most of our media and broadcast their propaganda endlessly.

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
49. rw radio deserves attention? I believe Rush sponsors are down to viagra and wild turkey.
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 01:58 PM
Dec 2014

He got our attention.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
53. the alternate reality they have established the last 25 years still dominates an
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 02:34 PM
Dec 2014

entire party, enables a corporate media and a lot of conservadems everyone here complains a lot about all the time.

and it still is capable of turning molehills into mountains in a few days- with 1200 coordinated radio stations it still dominates and starts the national and local buzz for the CIA/GOP/COC/ALEC psyops.

just about every issue discussed on liberal blogs like this is distorted by the alternate reality rw radio continues to reinforce and maintain.

ignoring rw radio has been the the biggest mistake in political history

groundloop

(12,271 posts)
3. I'd happily support Warren - IF SHE WERE RUNNING
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 11:16 AM
Dec 2014

But she's made it abundantly clear that she's not, at least not in 2016, so I don't see the point of this.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
4. She's made it abundantly clear that at present, she isn't running. Thanks in advance for your
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 11:21 AM
Dec 2014

support, groundloop! She's a great leader with no fear. And she fights for us ag wall street.

I can't wait for her to enter the race when the primaries begin!!

azureblue

(2,289 posts)
5. she did say that
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 11:27 AM
Dec 2014

But I believe that she is a pragmatic person,and if she was shown that she has the support and financing, and a logical case was presented to her why she should run now, I think she could be persuaded. she is a realistic, reasonable person, and am sure that she thinks, unless things change, this is not the right time for her to run. But many of us think otherwise,and I say it's time to let her know. Not with passionate rhetoric but with clear, logical reasoning.

thesquanderer

(12,347 posts)
22. She has repeatedly said she isn't running...
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 11:52 AM
Dec 2014

...but she has never said in 2016, i.e. she has never said she won't in the future.

See: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/07/23/elizabeth-warren-could-end-the-presidential-speculation-today-she-has-chosen-not-to/

She is not stupid. She knows *exactly* what this reporter is asking, and is going out of her way to make sure she doesn't give him the answer.

She is not running. Whether circumstances will be such that she decides to run in the coming months is an unknown, and something she remains noncommittal about no matter how she is pressed.

jamesatemple

(353 posts)
33. Mama said...
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 12:15 PM
Dec 2014

"A wise man (woman) may change his (her) mind often but a fool never does". (Changes shown parenthetically are mine; mama would have approved). I consider Elizabeth Warren to be a very wise woman. If she does change her mind and run, will you deem her wise or call her a liar?

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
34. No one ever stops to think that she just might think she can do more as a Senator. After all
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 12:16 PM
Dec 2014

she has Ted Kennedy as an example. Organizing the Senate to stop the Rs in the next 2 years will be extremely important and IF we can get a Democratic President in 2016 it will be important to have someone who can lead there also.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
39. Enough already. Right back at ya. You spend WAY too much time posting the same thing.
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 12:55 PM
Dec 2014

I see it all over DU.

A movement has grown to try and draft a candidate that MANY people really like. That movement is raising ISSUES that progressives and liberals care greatly about.

Let the movement continue even if it doesn't result in EW running for President. Other good things could come from the movement.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
32. 300 people who helped elect Obama are supporting a Warren candidacy, are they crazy too?
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 12:12 PM
Dec 2014

And millions at MoveOn?

At least some people here are politically savvy enough to see what's happening. She'll announce when the time is right for her energy to be put into that particular dog & pony show. Until then, she's busy with the good fight in the senate.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
58. Did you read her booki?
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 04:17 PM
Dec 2014

Move-On is also supporting Warren.

http://front.moveon.org/tag/elizabeth-warren/

DFA also supports a Warren run.

http://dfa.runwarrenrun.org/?source=dfa_home.runwarrenrun.20141218

So, Warren is picking up steam.

Hillary polls well but is not particularly gaining momentum and is not the favorite of the folks who make the calls, knock on the doors and drive voters to the polls on election day. Warren is the one that those of us who do the nitty-gritty grass-roots work want.

I think a lot of union rank and file also love the Warren message.

Hillary just does not deliver it very well. She has too much banker baggage to say nothing of NAFTA and the "welfare reform." Bill Clinton's presidency is remembered as a time of prosperity, but he signed a lot of legislation that has not worked out well for middle-class Americans.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
57. Have you read her book, A Fighting Chance?
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 04:11 PM
Dec 2014

She can be persuaded to run. That is my belief based on having read her book.

She does not challenge Hillary Clinton personally, but she strongly attacks some of the Clinton friends, their appointees, and she strongly criticizes some of the Clinton/Bush/Obama policies.

I suggest reading her book before insisting that Warren won't run. I would say she could be persuaded to run if she thought that she could best serve Americans by running.

Her childhood and young adult experiences destined her to care about the economic plight of America's middle class. She is the real deal. She and Bernie are the only potential candidates who understand what is going on in this country, what the struggle of the average American just to keep out of serious debt is.

I want Warren to run. I think she can unite a lot of middle America.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
64. Yeah, it's only a few DU members. Outdside of DU, no one has ever heard of her.
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 06:55 PM
Dec 2014

You just stick to that story.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
60. I will ask you what I ask all who say that Warren is not running.
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 04:24 PM
Dec 2014

Have you read her book?

So far none of the "Warren is not running. She said so" posters has answered my question in the affirmative. I'm still waiting.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
63. The point is that this is about a movement it isn't about Sen Warren. Sure we want her to
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 05:44 PM
Dec 2014

run but if she doesn't, the movement will continue anywayz.
Most people that repeat over and over that Sen Warren isn't running are H. Clinton-Sachs followers and think if they repeat it often enough it will come true. They are petrified that the movement will ignore their Wall Street candidate. And it will.
The Oligarchy loves H. Clinton-Sachs and Jeb, Babs favorite, and they are terrified of the movement.

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
16. I for one don't live in fantasy land. She has said over and over she isn't running for President.
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 11:47 AM
Dec 2014
 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
21. Warren has repeatedly said she isn't running in 2016. This "present tense" stuff is CRAZY.
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 11:51 AM
Dec 2014

Please, don't go there. The "present tensers" are virtually acting as nutty as the flat earthers and the birthers.

a2liberal

(1,524 posts)
41. So did Hillary
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 12:59 PM
Dec 2014
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025965906

So stop twisting what is obviously standard politicians' denial (everyone claims they're not running/focused on their current job/etc. until they actually declare they're running) into some sort of absolute truth.
 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
20. Clue: That doesn't matter. People like her and what she says nails it. Good luck subduing that.
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 11:49 AM
Dec 2014

Oh and you fail with your pathetic "fantasy land" snark.

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
23. I think she's GREAT and would welcome her to it. But she IS NOT GOING TO RUN in 2016. Deal with it.
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 11:54 AM
Dec 2014

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
29. That's just it. She hasn't said that.
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 12:02 PM
Dec 2014

Only that she isn't presently running for president. And she isn't. No one is. Yet.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
36. I love that we live in a free country and can continue our efforts at drafting the candidate we like
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 12:41 PM
Dec 2014

If the movement continues she may reconsider.

Even if she doesn't this movement is NOT wasted effort.

We are seeing an awakening and it seems to be much larger than the corporate Democrats would like for it to be. May it continue to grow. And grow. And grow...

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
37. I guess that explains why Hillary's supporters are so relaxed about Warren's popularity
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 12:41 PM
Dec 2014

"Don't panic! Don't panic! Elizabeth Warren's not running! Don't panic! Don't panic!"

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
61. She may mot have a choice. The Democratic Party may beg her to run with so much
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 04:36 PM
Dec 2014

energy that she can't say no. Could happen. Because Hillary polls well but does not have the energy and enthusiasm from the grass roots, the political nerds like me, that Warren does.

Warren is talking about and has solutions for the problems that ordinary people face -- like establishing banks in post offices. Banks that would replace the pay-day lending vultures if people prefer to do sensible, cost-effective banking that does not involve mortgaging your paycheck, that is your next weeks food, at high interest rates.

Nobody, not Hillary, not Bush, nobody has the good ideas that Warren has for the economic recovery of America's middle class.

It is a sad thing that in our country, when we talk about recovery, we mean recovery for the already-doing-fine-thank-yous and not real recovery and at least a modest accumulation of wealth for the not-doing-well-most-of-us.

Warren understands why it is so hard to get into and stay in the middle class. None of the other politicians even seem to want to recognize that that is the major problem in America today.

From our failing schools to poor care for seniors in their final years and days, the big challenge in America is maintaining the middle class that built our country. We aren't doing it. Warren and Sanders are the only credible spokespersons on that issue.

Keeping, helping people get into the middle class -- that is the elephant in the china closet for Republicans and third way Democrats. It's the biggiie. Assuming we don't get into a raging war somewhere (and I think we have already fought and defeated or made peace with just about every major country we could possibly fight), the problems of middle class Americans will be the primary issue in 2016.

Neither Jeb Bush nor Hillary nor any contenders other than Sanders and Warren have a clue about what is going on in the middle class or those aspiring to be middle class.

JGug1

(320 posts)
35. Elizabeth Warren In WHITE???
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 12:31 PM
Dec 2014

For GOD'S sake..........Goebbele is laughing in his grave. Put her in WHITE at the top of the thread? OK, to this wailing and gnashing of teeth regarding Warren, who I LOVE, needing to for President:
Has it occurred to any of you that her experience, except for the world of economics, is ZERO. She has absolutely no foreign policy experience, NONE. She presents as a very strong personality now that she has been allowed a voice as a Senator, and foreign policy is mostly common sense, mostly missing
of course, no matter what party the leader of the nation is from, but her lack of foreign policy experience would be a HUGE disadvantage in any campaign. There is some irony to the concept that the people who SHOULD be considering running mostly don't.

My own sense has been that Obama is largely an exception to that. Hillary Clinton has managed to continue to grow as a national leader and very likely is the SAFEST person we could elect. I do not know if we can draw any conclusions from what Bill did but she was respected on both sides of the isle as a senator, was a very successful Secretary of State. and is likely to keep us out of any new ground wars for the 8 years following election. We need to support her.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
38. You're pro-Hillary in the Elizabeth Warren group, so here's some things you must not know~
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 12:50 PM
Dec 2014

(And I have NO idea what issue you have with Liz wearing white in the photo from Huffpo)

Trans-Pacific Partnership, Obama and HIllary Clinton Should Scare Hell Out of Progressives.
http://michaeledrake.blogspot.com/2013/12/obama-and-hillary-clinton-should-scare.html

Hillary Clinton, Wall Street’s Favorite Democrat
http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/2014/11/14/hillary-clinton-wall-streets-favorite-democrat/

How Hillary Will Fail Liberals
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2014/08/14/how_hillary_will_fail_liberals_123657.html

Hilary's Biggest Challenge Isn't Just Bill's Outsourcing Record, It's Hers
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-white/hilarys-biggest-challenge_b_6175008.html

Backing Hillary in 2016: Bad for Progressives and Bad Politics, Too
http://www.commondreams.org/views/2014/11/29/backing-hillary-2016-bad-progressives-and-bad-politics-too

Climate activists not ready for Hillary
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/climate-activists-not-ready-hillary-clinton

How Hillary Clinton's State Department Sold Fracking To The World
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/10/hillary-clinton-fracking_n_5796786.html



A guide to funneling cash to Clinton
http://www.thenation.com/article/191457/how-many-ways-can-goldman-give

 

supercats

(429 posts)
43. I Think She Could Run....
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 01:45 PM
Dec 2014

If she can see that she would have enough money to be a legitimate candidate, not a fringe candidate meaning not like Newt was last election, able to stay in the race week by week with the sole support of Adelson. She already knows nobody running already, Clinton, Biden etc. etc. will lift a real finger to help the middle class, or make real systemic changes to how our country is run now. And everybody knows no matter how bad a Clinton presidency would be, any republican president would be worse, maybe not by much but still worse. She's got to know as does every liberal, that she is the person for this moment in our history. She's got the mind, the voice, the courage, and the heart to speak truth to power. She isn't afraid of anyone or anything, she fights for the rights of us all, and she knows nobody has her charisma to do it. Hell, just look at Obama, most people didn't know him, and the one's that did gave him an outside chance at best. But he got us to believe 'change is coming to America'.....Now it's time for REAL change to come to America, let's force her to run.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
51. That's how I feel too, supercats, but I don't think we'll have to "force" her.
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 02:03 PM
Dec 2014

She's not saying she doesn't want to run for president, just that she isn't running at the moment.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
65. she didn't add that...YOU did!
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 06:59 PM
Dec 2014

she doesn't add..."at the moment"....she said she is finishing her term as Senator instead. I'd say that is pretty definitive that she is NOT running in 2016!

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
67. Learn English. Present tense MEANS "now" She doesn't she say isn't going to run.
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:15 PM
Dec 2014

Just "I'm not running,"

How naive can you get? The same words for over a year. Never saying she will not run. Only that she isn't running.

Jacoby365

(473 posts)
62. Elizabeth Warren has the power and ability to lead a political revolution in this country.
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 04:41 PM
Dec 2014

I would love to see her do that - protests in major cities like we have never seen before, on a scale so grand that it changes the way Washington works - changes it in a way that a president never could. There needs to be a revolution. I pick Elizabeth Warren to lead!

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