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WillyT

(72,631 posts)
Wed Dec 24, 2014, 03:40 PM Dec 2014

A Vote For "Draft Warren" Is A Vote For A Democratic Primary - Truth-Out

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A Vote for "Draft Warren" Is a Vote for a Democratic Primary
Wednesday, 24 December 2014 09:27
By Robert Naiman, Truthout | Op-Ed

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If you object to the proposition that Hillary Clinton should become the Democratic nominee for President in 2016 without having to substantially engage with Democratic primary voters and caucus-goers about what she would do as President, speak now ( http://runwarrenrun.org/ ) or forever hold your peace. Whether this proposition succeeds or fails is likely to be largely determined in the next few months.

In 2016, if Hillary Clinton becomes the nominee without having to defend her positions in front of rank-and-file Democrats, it is certain that some people will loudly complain. Here's what I will then say: "Take away from me the noise of your songs, to the melody of your harps I will not listen." The time to act to forestall this outcome is now.

MoveOn and Democracy for America have a plan to forestall this outcome: draft Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren to run for President.

Opposition to this plan can be sorted into two categories:

1. People who want Hillary Clinton to become the Democratic nominee without having to substantially engage Democratic primary voters and caucus-goers about what she would do as President.

2. People who think that "Draft Warren" is an imperfect vehicle for opposing "no primary."

To the advocates of "no primary," I would say this: do you think we have too much democracy in the United States right now, or too little? Do you think we have too much popular participation and engagement in the political process, or too little?

If you think we have too much democracy, participation and engagement in the political process right now, then you and I are not playing for the same team.

But if you think we have too little democracy...

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Link: http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/28191-a-vote-for-draft-warren-is-a-vote-for-a-democratic-primary

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A Vote For "Draft Warren" Is A Vote For A Democratic Primary - Truth-Out (Original Post) WillyT Dec 2014 OP
The noose of the Oligarchy is tightening but probably not enough to open the eyes of the rhett o rick Dec 2014 #1
To me, 'A Vote For "Draft Warren"' is a vote for Warren to be president. RiverLover Dec 2014 #2
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
1. The noose of the Oligarchy is tightening but probably not enough to open the eyes of the
Wed Dec 24, 2014, 09:17 PM
Dec 2014

ambivalent public. We will have to wait until they are all in the soup lines. But I want to know how anyone can support H. Clinton. The only answer I ever get is she will win. As if winning is worth throwing away your values.

H. Clinton betrayed the Democratic Party once why would we trust her again? Are you willing to give up your values to win? Like in the movie/play "Damn Yankees"? When we needed her the most she turned her back on us and not only supported the Republicans, she helped them sell the lies for entering the Iraq War. We can do better than H. Clinton.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
2. To me, 'A Vote For "Draft Warren"' is a vote for Warren to be president.
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 07:29 AM
Dec 2014

Not for Liz to take time out from an important job to make a better primary.

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