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eridani

(51,907 posts)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 08:09 PM Apr 2016

Elizabeth Warren's Big Win: The New, Much-Needed Rule That Could Rein in Wall Street

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/36497-elizabeth-warrens-big-win-the-new-much-needed-rule-that-could-rein-in-wall-street

Are you in the market for some good news? While everyone is being told to follow the excitement of the 2016 campaign to the exclusion of all else, out of the spotlight but not far away, the Obama administration is calmly trying to enact lasting progressive change. In the Labor Department earlier this month, consumer advocates won a big battle, as the vast middle class was “gifted” with a new requirement being placed on the financial services industry. As Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren explained, a glaring conflict of interest has been resolved in the favor of people saving for retirement. No longer can investment advisers recommend funds to their clients that reward them or their firms; instead, they must, without exception, direct customers into the best financial products, with lower or, sometimes, zero fees.

In her inimitable style, Warren crowed: “No more pushing products that generate financial benefits for advisers, while draining the customer’s savings.” It’s a very simple principle: “No more free vacations, cars, bonuses, fees, and other kickbacks.” Her mantra, as we know, is fairness. Her legislative agenda is to introduce new legal protections for consumers. She is quick to point out that most financial advisers are ethical, and work hard to help their clients. But these individuals have, for many years, been forced to compete with “slick-talking” advisers whose recommendations reflect personal incentives and produce “terrible results” for middle-class savers, amounting, the Labor Department says, to many billions of dollars.

Firms must now make a full disclosure. Facing the music, the largest independent company that manages retirement savings, with $450 billion in retirement assets, right away cut account fees for investors by “up to 30 percent.” Retirees win. The system can adapt. As Warren stated: “Americans are tired of a Washington that works great for the big guys and doesn’t work for anyone else.”
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Elizabeth Warren's Big Win: The New, Much-Needed Rule That Could Rein in Wall Street (Original Post) eridani Apr 2016 OP
Love her!!!! Jackilope Apr 2016 #1
No fees! Sounds like more filthy hippies wantin' free stuff! brewens Apr 2016 #2
Indeed. Silly socialist! Silver_Witch Apr 2016 #27
That's a good ruling. One question, how is this not an accomplishment of Obama Admin? Hoyt Apr 2016 #3
Because some people hate Obama IronLionZion Apr 2016 #6
It sounds like an Elizabeth Warren accomplishment and Not an Obama one fasttense Apr 2016 #25
Sounds to me his admin promulgated the rule. But Obama doesn't get much Hoyt Apr 2016 #28
I am glad to give Pres Obama credit when due, but I will also hold his feet to the fire rhett o rick Apr 2016 #29
While you were watching closely, he greatly improved prescription drug coverage under Hoyt Apr 2016 #31
Are you expecting me to give him credit for not cutting SS? How about the drone kills? rhett o rick Apr 2016 #32
He DID put our Social Security Money "on the table". bvar22 Apr 2016 #34
He might have put it on "the table" as a bluff, but there was ultimately no cut. Hoyt Apr 2016 #35
Not THIS time, bvar22 Apr 2016 #36
I wish this had come years before, but glad it has happened! Dustlawyer Apr 2016 #4
Churning is a scourge whether it's done by investment advisers JimDandy Apr 2016 #5
index funds are usually best for ordinary people IronLionZion Apr 2016 #8
I ws lucky enough to know about Vanguard dixiegrrrrl Apr 2016 #9
Incrementalism is not always bad as long as you are moving in the right direction..you eventually Jitter65 Apr 2016 #14
Why not an unimportant issue, if this is our approach to solving the big bank issue we as a Skwmom Apr 2016 #19
Related thread Jack Rabbit Apr 2016 #7
The GOP is trying to undo the CFPB that she Ilsa Apr 2016 #10
This is great news for people who can afford to invest. eom zalinda Apr 2016 #11
Throw 'em a bone before we cut Social Security. Enthusiast Apr 2016 #12
And that is all it is, a bone. It does not address the huge problems with Wall Street. Skwmom Apr 2016 #18
It shouldn't be too much to ask that firms look out for the best interests Enthusiast Apr 2016 #21
It sounds like these are being made as regulations davidpdx Apr 2016 #13
She would need to protect her backers AllyCat Apr 2016 #24
KnR nt 99th_Monkey Apr 2016 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author mrr303am Apr 2016 #16
You do realize that this only address ONE problem and hardly reins in Wall Street. Skwmom Apr 2016 #17
we've been conditioned to salivate over bone tosses Skittles Apr 2016 #20
Sounds great, but TrueDemVA Apr 2016 #22
"... the Obama administration is calmly trying to enact lasting progressive change." Scuba Apr 2016 #23
Hooray for Elizabeth Warren! raging moderate Apr 2016 #26
So, I'm not, nor have I ever been middle class. Stryst Apr 2016 #30
A financial transaction tax would be a big help here IMO eridani Apr 2016 #37
This will cut costs for investors houston16revival Apr 2016 #33
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. That's a good ruling. One question, how is this not an accomplishment of Obama Admin?
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 08:27 PM
Apr 2016

IronLionZion

(47,069 posts)
6. Because some people hate Obama
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:00 PM
Apr 2016

This law change has been in the works for a while and if you listen to the Freeper arguments against it you'll get a headache and maybe a nosebleed. "More free stuff to the undeserving who are too stupid to ...." and so on. It's like freepers don't want to admit that their own financial advisers may have been ripping them off to make themselves some kickbacks from pushing idiotic products like mortgage backed securities or collateralized debt obligations or risky high cost funds.



 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
25. It sounds like an Elizabeth Warren accomplishment and Not an Obama one
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 08:13 AM
Apr 2016

But if Obama did not stand in the way of a law that might help the middle class, just wait until the TPP is put into affect. This rule wont last under the requirements of TPP.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
28. Sounds to me his admin promulgated the rule. But Obama doesn't get much
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 09:09 AM
Apr 2016

credit around here for anything. He just gets slammed for crud detractors say he "might do," approve Keystone, slash SS, and similar BS.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
29. I am glad to give Pres Obama credit when due, but I will also hold his feet to the fire
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 09:34 AM
Apr 2016

if it looks like he is going to do something that will harm the 99% like cut SS or Medicare. The best time to show your objection is before the act. I will also speak out when I think the president does something that I don't like. Isn't that how a representative government is supposed to work? Will you speak out when he does something you don't like? Or do you automatically like everything he does? If so then it's useless to have a discussion with you.

Let's take drone killing as an example. Do you, along with the Republicons love the drone killing? Lindsey Graham is ecstatic. He believes the number killed is around 4,700 which includes approx 4,400 innocent men, women and children. I believe that drone killing is a terrorist act, don't you agree?

Terrorism, in its broadest sense, is defined as the use of violence, or threatened use of violence, in order to achieve a political, religious, or ideological aim. In modern times, terrorism is considered a major threat to society and therefore illegal under anti-terrorism laws in most jurisdictions. It is also considered a war crime under the laws of war when used to target non-combatants, such as civilians, neutral military personnel, or enemy prisoners of war.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism


https://www.yahoo.com/news/blogs/ticket/drones-killed-4-700-u-senator-says-141143752--politics.html?ref=gs
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
31. While you were watching closely, he greatly improved prescription drug coverage under
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 11:03 AM
Apr 2016

Medicare and did not cut Social Security. Have any links to your giving credit?

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
32. Are you expecting me to give him credit for not cutting SS? How about the drone kills?
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 11:18 AM
Apr 2016

Do you favor that?

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
34. He DID put our Social Security Money "on the table".
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:19 PM
Apr 2016

This forever turned OFF the power to the "Third Rail of Politics". (Don't ever fuck with Social Security, or you DIE.)

Whether you care to admit it or not, this is a HUGE gift to those who want to kill Social Security. Social Security will NOW be On-the-Table in every future budget negotiation until it is gone....just another poker chip.
ONLY a "Democratic President"could have done this.


Rep. Conyers: Obama Demanded Social Security Cuts--Not GOP

"We've got to educate the American people at the same time we educate the President of the United States. The Republicans, Speaker Boehner or Majority Leader Cantor DID NOT call for Social Security cuts in the budget deal. THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES CALLED FOR THAT," declared US Representative John Conyers in a press conference held by members of the House "Out of Poverty' Caucus on 07/27/11

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Rep-Conyers-Obama-Demand-by-Jeanine-Molloff-110729-352.html


 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
35. He might have put it on "the table" as a bluff, but there was ultimately no cut.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:26 PM
Apr 2016

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
36. Not THIS time,
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:35 PM
Apr 2016

but Daddy WAS gambling with the rent money,
and we all know what eventually happens.

Dustlawyer

(10,518 posts)
4. I wish this had come years before, but glad it has happened!
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 08:38 PM
Apr 2016

My parents invested with Merrill Lynch during one of the biggest, booming markets, yet they managed to lose and fee away most of my parent's savings before they could pull out. They churned my parent's account horribly, making numerous trades without their knowledge.

Small investors like my parents all suffered from those greedy thriving assholes!

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
5. Churning is a scourge whether it's done by investment advisers
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 08:51 PM
Apr 2016

or apartment management companies. So sorry about your parents.

IronLionZion

(47,069 posts)
8. index funds are usually best for ordinary people
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:05 PM
Apr 2016

low cost, broad diversification, and very little churn since the fund tracks an established index like the S&P 500. It's also very transparent so you know exactly what is going on.

Too many trades and you'll lose money just on the fees.

I tried entering the financial advisor profession years ago but the jobs were mostly for sales people to sell the company's products on commission rather than draw a regular salary from giving clients the best advise, so I didn't do it.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,011 posts)
9. I ws lucky enough to know about Vanguard
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:36 PM
Apr 2016

which offers minimal fees and has a lot of self directed funds.
It took some homework but I found some good paying funds to invest in, took the money out 6 months before the 2008 crash.
I figured that NO one had more interest in my money than I did.

Bless Elizabeth for the changes, but now the question is....will the rules really be enforced????

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
14. Incrementalism is not always bad as long as you are moving in the right direction..you eventually
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:34 PM
Apr 2016

arrive at your destination.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
19. Why not an unimportant issue, if this is our approach to solving the big bank issue we as a
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:09 AM
Apr 2016

country are truly screwed.

Ilsa

(62,274 posts)
10. The GOP is trying to undo the CFPB that she
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:08 PM
Apr 2016

Designed to protect consumers from unscrupulous lenders. GOP is claiming they have too much personal financial data on us. They want to unseat the director in favor of a board that reports to Congress.

I hope she'll be successful with this newest endeavor.

The fight never ends.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
18. And that is all it is, a bone. It does not address the huge problems with Wall Street.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:08 AM
Apr 2016

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
21. It shouldn't be too much to ask that firms look out for the best interests
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 04:29 AM
Apr 2016

of the holder of a retirement account. Really, anything else should be against the law with Mandatory Minimums. I think the only way you rein in the abuses on Wall Street in throw them in jail.

In all things the citizen should expect the government to act on their behalf even if the wealthy corporations have to take a hit. But then I have a highly developed sense of fairness that is lacking in elected "representatives".

We really do need a political revolution.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
13. It sounds like these are being made as regulations
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:33 PM
Apr 2016

If so, then they can be undone by any future administration. It is a win, but my question is if we get Hillary Clinton in there what are the chances she'll undo these things? I think it's very likely she will.

Response to eridani (Original post)

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
17. You do realize that this only address ONE problem and hardly reins in Wall Street.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:07 AM
Apr 2016

Nothing like trying to oversell something...

TrueDemVA

(250 posts)
22. Sounds great, but
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 04:55 AM
Apr 2016

I know I am being pessimistic. I certainly hope this is not being done to make a future push to privatize Social Security.
Playing devils advocate.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
23. "... the Obama administration is calmly trying to enact lasting progressive change."
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:36 AM
Apr 2016

While pushing the TPP?????

Stryst

(714 posts)
30. So, I'm not, nor have I ever been middle class.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:05 AM
Apr 2016

Why is the entire Dem pogrom designed around the middle class? What about those of us who spent our adult lives serving our country for an insultingly low paycheck only to get sick and told to live on $9,000 a year? I'm sure glad that those of you who are privileged enough to have enough money to actually save get to save more, but here in the real world most of us are struggling to make a decision between power, food, and medicine.

But congratulations Sen. Warren. At least someone is doing something, even if it won't ever help me or mine.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
37. A financial transaction tax would be a big help here IMO
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 08:44 PM
Apr 2016

Also, the Warren rule will help prevent banksters from fucking up the economy again.

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