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MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
Wed May 8, 2013, 03:15 PM May 2013

Elizabeth Warren: Give students the same deal as big banks [WITH EDIT]

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Elizabeth Warren: Give students the same deal as big banks

Sen. Elizabeth Warren introduced her first standalone piece of legislation Wednesday, calling for the government to give student borrowers the same deal it gives big banks when they need a loan.

The measure would allow students who are eligible for federally subsidized Stafford loans to borrow at the same rate that banks get from the Federal Reserve when they need a short-term infusion of cash from the central bank’s discount window.

“If the Federal Reserve can float trillions of dollars to large financial institutions at low interest rates to grow the economy, surely they can float the Department of Education the money to fund our students, keep us competitive, and grow our middle class,” Warren (D-Mass.) said on the floor of the Senate Wednesday.

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Patrick Sims, a director in policy research at Hamilton Place Strategies, argued a short-term loan from the discount window during a time of crisis is not at all comparable to a long-term student loan.


EDIT: I am a nitwit. Unbelievably, I missed that this story had already been posted in the EW group. So go kick, rec, or damn that one.

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Elizabeth Warren: Give students the same deal as big banks [WITH EDIT] (Original Post) MannyGoldstein May 2013 OP
I love Elizabeth Warren, and I hope she runs for President truebluegreen May 2013 #1
civilized nations give free health care too. DesertFlower May 2013 #2
+1000 truebluegreen May 2013 #3
One is reminded of the Mahatma. Scootaloo May 2013 #10
He certainly nailed that one... think May 2013 #13
No argument on anything you've said. Education should be free and accessible to all, and... MANative May 2013 #4
I'm good with that... truebluegreen May 2013 #6
Agree! Mr. Evil May 2013 #15
And just to be clear about the numbers, Stafford loans cost 6.8% BlueStreak May 2013 #5
This is exactly how they should word it: "Give students the same deal as big banks" BlueCaliDem May 2013 #7
+1 Politicub May 2013 #8
KUDOS to Senator Warren. bvar22 May 2013 #9
But... but... she's not triangulating! MannyGoldstein May 2013 #12
Obviously just another impractical "Purist" "Fringe Leftist" . bvar22 May 2013 #18
I worry too. Mr. Evil May 2013 #17
I'm emailing Senator Warren with a thumbs up. And circulating this information LuckyLib May 2013 #11
98 more like her! think May 2013 #14
I approve so long as it is made permanent and retroactive to existing loans Demo_Chris May 2013 #16
Great idea! Where is Hillary on this? grahamhgreen May 2013 #19
 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
1. I love Elizabeth Warren, and I hope she runs for President
Wed May 8, 2013, 03:25 PM
May 2013

but students should get free education, for as far as they can go...

It is what civilized nations do.

DesertFlower

(11,649 posts)
2. civilized nations give free health care too.
Wed May 8, 2013, 03:29 PM
May 2013
 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
3. +1000
Wed May 8, 2013, 03:32 PM
May 2013


I aspire one day to live in one...oh,wait....
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
10. One is reminded of the Mahatma.
Wed May 8, 2013, 04:38 PM
May 2013

When asked what he thought of Western Civilization, Gandhi is said to have replied, "I think it would be a good idea."

 

think

(11,641 posts)
13. He certainly nailed that one...
Wed May 8, 2013, 04:53 PM
May 2013

MANative

(4,142 posts)
4. No argument on anything you've said. Education should be free and accessible to all, and...
Wed May 8, 2013, 03:36 PM
May 2013

I'd go one step further on those loan terms - what about extending those sweet deals to everyone who borrows?

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
6. I'm good with that...
Wed May 8, 2013, 03:50 PM
May 2013

except for maybe the Big Banks...they should PAY, and not on our dime.

Mr. Evil

(2,988 posts)
15. Agree!
Wed May 8, 2013, 05:34 PM
May 2013

I hope she runs for president. Students should get free education. We should also strive to become a civilized nation.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
5. And just to be clear about the numbers, Stafford loans cost 6.8%
Wed May 8, 2013, 03:43 PM
May 2013

see http://www.staffordloan.com/stafford-loan-info/interest-rates.php

while the federal funds overnight rate is -- well it is as close to zero as you can get.
http://www.moneycafe.com/library/fedfundsrate.htm

The TARGET rate is ZERO to 0.25%. That's one quarter of one percent on an annual basis. In other words, if the banks ever had to pay that at the top of the range (and they don't), Stafford loans still cost TWENTY-SEVEN TIMES MORE than the deal we give the banksters.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
7. This is exactly how they should word it: "Give students the same deal as big banks"
Wed May 8, 2013, 03:52 PM
May 2013

and they need to do it over and over and over again until it finally sinks in with the American electorate that we've paid much too much deference to Big Banks and completely neglected our future taxpayers. Hopefully this will force Congress to finally do something for the average American.

Democrats need to use this simple but to-the-point sentence again and again, and stop with the long diatribes that make the average American's eyes roll over. We are not a nation of readers, let alone thinkers. Most don't have time for it. Some are just too lazy to apply themselves.

I like that line . . . "Give Students the Same Deal As Big Banks".

Politicub

(12,288 posts)
8. +1
Wed May 8, 2013, 04:04 PM
May 2013

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
9. KUDOS to Senator Warren.
Wed May 8, 2013, 04:37 PM
May 2013

This is what a "DEMOCRAT" should sound like.
How embarrassing to the rest of our Party of the Working Class.

She needs to be careful, and stay out of small planes.


 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
12. But... but... she's not triangulating!
Wed May 8, 2013, 04:49 PM
May 2013

How can she be serious? Not a single common-sense belt-tightening solution from this one.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
18. Obviously just another impractical "Purist" "Fringe Leftist" .
Wed May 8, 2013, 05:40 PM
May 2013

Doesn't she know that the only sensible thing for the Democratic Party is to follow Reagan and the Republicans off the Right Edge of the map!
I mean, THAT is the only way we can make any "progress" at all.

NOW, the Republicans are going to say bad things,
and Rush is going to get all pissed off,
and its going to be ALL her fault!

Mr. Evil

(2,988 posts)
17. I worry too.
Wed May 8, 2013, 05:35 PM
May 2013

Wouldn't want her to be "Wellstoned."

LuckyLib

(6,892 posts)
11. I'm emailing Senator Warren with a thumbs up. And circulating this information
Wed May 8, 2013, 04:45 PM
May 2013

through email.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
14. 98 more like her!
Wed May 8, 2013, 04:55 PM
May 2013

I'd say 99 but Bernie's awesome too!.....

 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
16. I approve so long as it is made permanent and retroactive to existing loans
Wed May 8, 2013, 05:35 PM
May 2013
 

grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
19. Great idea! Where is Hillary on this?
Wed May 8, 2013, 05:42 PM
May 2013
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