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Related: About this forumThe Imitation Game starring Benedict Cumberbatch
My husband wanted to go see this last night.
Fascinating story. We had seen an Enigma machine on display in London at Churchill's War Rooms
last May when we were there.
Some info: http://www.royalnavalmuseum.org/info_sheets_enigma.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma_machine
I did not know anything about Alan Turing, although my husband had read a book about him.
Benedict Cumberbatch's performance is superb. Really well done.
Alan Turing:
Sometimes it is the people no one imagines anything of who do the things that no one can imagine.
Apparently, the relationship with Joan Clarke (Keira Knightley) is overdramatized, although
they did have a short engagement.
For some of the controversy surrounding the depiction of Turing's relationship with Joan Clarke:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2346828/Film-WW2-codebreaker-Alan-Turing-attacked-biographer-exaggerating-love-affair-woman-gay-says-Keira-Knightley-glamorous.html
And Keira Knightley's view about it: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/26/keira-knightley-imitation-game_n_6221196.html
Anyone else see it?
Hoppy
(3,595 posts)mcar
(43,509 posts)A wonderful film. The performances were excellent all round.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)because 1) the history is fascinating, and 2) Benedict Cumberbatch.
question everything
(48,813 posts)Both the movie and the actor deserve an Oscar. (OK, we have not seen many movies these years..)
I found it interesting that when Joan showed up to the "test" after solving the puzzle, she was told that "secretaries should go upstairs."
What I found touching was that after they broke the code, they had to decide how to handle it.
And, of course, the fact that in many parts of the world, homosexuality is still considered a crime, punishable by death.
mnhtnbb
(32,068 posts)and did a little on-line searching.
Joan ran in to considerable misogyny as a woman working in a 'man's' world. Apparently,
there were very different pay scales for women--doing the same work--and she
ended up being classified as having translation skills--even though she didn't--as a result
of some of her male friends helping to do an end run around the pay scale inequities. And
she was not nearly the 'looker' that Keira Knightley is. Typical Hollywood.
I had a hard time following the story because it was back and forth so much in time,
and I never really 'got' that it was an investigation into a burglary at Turing's apartment in the early 50's
that 'uncovered' his homosexuality which resulted in the charges against him--and ultimately
his suicide--even though all his war colleagues were aware of it. Talk about invasion of privacy! And by the way, no thanks for help with ending WW II.
question everything
(48,813 posts)The True Story of The Imitation Game
http://time.com/3609585/the-true-story-of-the-imitation-game/
Alan Turings first love, Christopher, died at a young age
Ruling: Fact
Alan Turing was a closeted gay man
Ruling: Fact
Joan Clarke is invited to Bletchley Park, the home of the governments code breaking operation, after completing a crossword puzzle
Ruling: Fiction
Joans parents didnt want her at Bletchley
Ruling: Fiction
Turing named the code breaking machine Christopher
Ruling: Fiction
John Cairncross threatens to expose Turings sexuality if Turing reveals hes a spy
Ruling: Fiction
Turing asked Clarke to marry him
Ruling: Fact
The government thought Turing might be a Soviet spy
Ruling: Fiction
Turing underwent chemical castration after his conviction
Ruling: Fact
mnhtnbb
(32,068 posts)turned up the answers to all the fact/fiction items.
question everything
(48,813 posts)This is what I read in TIME, by Walter Isaccson
http://time.com/3596955/the-price-of-genius/
Alan Turing, the man who pioneered computing, also forced the world to question what it means to be human
Alan Turing, the intellectual father of the modern computer, had a theory. He believed that one day machines would become so powerful that they would think just like humans. He even devised a test, which he called the imitation game, to herald the advent of computers that were indistinguishable from human minds. But as Benedict Cumberbatchs performance in the new movie The Imitation Game shows, Turings heroic and tragic life provides a compelling counter to the concept that there might be no fundamental difference between our minds and machines.
ellenrr
(3,864 posts)based on the book by Andrew Hodges: Alan Turing: The Enigma.
now I want to read the book.
There was an interview with Hodges last week on NPR also on pacifica. The one on Pacifica can be heard here:
https://itunes.apple.com/nz/podcast/letters-politics-kpfa-94.1/id406769844?mt=2
Either 12/30 or 12/31
https://itunes.apple.com/nz/podcast/letters-politics-kpfa-94.1/id406769844?mt=2
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)Benedict Cumberbatch's performance was superb.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Cumberbatch was fantastic.
Lex
(34,108 posts)Brought a tear to my eye at the end.
Callmecrazy
(3,066 posts)What a great movie.
After that I watched American Sniper. Another good movie. Great performance by Bradley Cooper, but the ending was kind of abrupt.
You can find a lot of great movies for free at this site:
http://www.thedarewall.com/tv/ . Go to the boxoffice pull down and browse all the available films.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)From my couch!
But I watch on a different site.
Watched Boyhood last night and started Wild today but didn't finish.
LOVED BOYHOOD!
I disliked the ending to American Sniper and I hated Sienna Miller. Thought it was good but not great. Cooper was outstanding.