Anybody love Fincher's Zodiac?

[XanaDUer2]

I watch it over and over. It's on FX right now. I think it's Fincher's best movie.

I think it bent the truth a bit, based on Graysmith's books. Much circumstancial evidence pointed to Arthur Leigh Allen being Zodiac, but he was cleared on prints and handwriting.

If you love true crime, you'll love Zodiac

[Doc Sportello]

1. Very good movie

But most Zodiacphiles I've read didn't peg Allen as the guy when it came out. As you write, more recent evidence points away from him.
Fincher isn't one of my favorite directors but I do agree this is his best work.

[XanaDUer2]

2. Note its going around on the interwebs

That Z was Don Cheney.

[Doc Sportello]

3. I read an interview where he was definitely implicating Allen

That was done several years ago. Is this a new thing about Cheney?

Of course it has been reported that Allen had others lick his stamps for him but that was way before DNA, so it would have been an odd thing at that time to do to avoid detection.

[XanaDUer2]

4. If you're interested

Yt had a documentary called His Name Was Arthur Leigh Allen

Cheney is weird. He also claimed he pushed his fingerprint in parrafin on Allens request. Claimed to lick Allen's stamps once they started DNA testing. Supposedly had a grudge against Allen over him touching his young daughter. Bawart arranged a polygraph for Cheney, who got drunk the night before and couldn't take it.

[Doc Sportello]

5. I'll check that out

Zodiac is such a rabbit hole, like D.B. Cooper. I'm not one who got into it to the extent of those who have back-and-forths on forums, but it is interesting to a point. I thought Gary Stewart and Earl Van Best made solid cases that their respective fathers were the Zodiac. I haven't looked at them recently but believe both were mostly debunked.

[Doc Sportello]

6. Well you got me going down the rabbit hole again

Interesting doc that seemed not to have an agenda. Cheney actually seemed pretty believable and his college friend spoke well of him. Don't know about Spinelli. He was looking for a deal. I watched a couple of other short films, including one featuring Allen in different interviews. Honestly, he seemed beievable in his denials and heartbroken at the accusations. Of course, psychopaths tend to be good liars.

One name I hadn't seen before but seems to be popular lately is William McDuff Andrew, who is first on the suspect list on a site I think is reliable:
https://zodiackiller.net/suspects/

You probably have checked sites out but here is one for anyone interested that I think is the best:

https://zodiackiller.com/#:~:text=ZodiacKiller.com%20is%20the%20ONLY,%2C%20radio%2C%20and%20in%20newspapers.

[XanaDUer2]

7. Spinelli ended up a professor!

https://www.stmarys-ca.edu/ralph-spinelli-mfa-creative-nonfiction-06

Thanks for that link. I've never heard of a Mac as a suspect. A couple in Vallejo near his home received baseball tix from someone calling themselves Zodiac? Wth?

Do you think this will ever be solved?

[Doc Sportello]

8. That is an amazing story

Certainly changes the portrait of Spinelli given by some. You could make a movie out of his life story.

Zodiac my be like Jack the Ripper, which is officially unsolved, even though a couple of DNA scientists claimed in 2019 that they did identify the killer. They used a shawl with blood and semen stains to identify one of the prime suspects as Jack, but others said the shawl wasn't reliable. People get territorial in these matters, so even DNA evidence didn't work on those who lay claim to other suspects. That may happen with Zodiac if DNA delivers an answer. Plus the police seem to be done with it, probably because they haven't been able to solve it and are tired of having to talk about it.

[XanaDUer2]

9. Just watched This Is the Zodiac Speaking

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