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Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 11:13 PM Mar 2015

So O'Malley shows up from nowhere. Why?

I have a simple theory, and when you hear it, you'll know why I didn't post it in GD.

My theory is this--the Beautiful People of Wall St. & elsewhere are getting really nervous about Hill's chances, especially after the latest email flap. Even though the incident in itself may amount to little, it is part of a growing burden of baggage. It won't take too much more to sink her under a backlash of negatives, whether deserved or not.

O'Malley seems, from the little I've seen so far, just as much a corporate shill as Hill ever was, and likely at least as acceptable to those Beautiful People. I sorta think the DLC Neocon types (whatever they're calling themselves at the moment) are hedging their bets and starting to groom Marty to take over if Hill takes the big stumble on her way to the gold ring.

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So O'Malley shows up from nowhere. Why? (Original Post) Jackpine Radical Mar 2015 OP
And if not, he can be her Veep. hedda_foil Mar 2015 #1
Could that backfire. aspirant Mar 2015 #2
I think privately they are calling themselves "THE WARM PURPLE people eaters" Dragonfli Mar 2015 #3
you always win when you support both sides of the war. Phlem Mar 2015 #4
A lot of us have been watching him for some time Warpy Mar 2015 #5
"Talks a great populist economics fight" aspirant Mar 2015 #6
Here's his resume FSogol Mar 2015 #18
Thanks AGAIN, FSogol. elleng Mar 2015 #28
Didn't Aidan Gillen (Littlefinger on Game of Thrones) play a character based on O'Malley on The Wire Bombtrack Mar 2015 #7
Yes, he did, Mayor of Baltimore. yallerdawg Mar 2015 #12
Kicked and recommended! Is O'Malley a reliable supply sider? Enthusiast Mar 2015 #8
Somebody here posted some links about an O'Malley program that locked a lot of people up ... Scuba Mar 2015 #9
NewDEAL & that dark money is paying off for him now. RiverLover Mar 2015 #10
Koch brothers, Fracking, Chickens, and O'Malley RiverLover Mar 2015 #11
Nice find. Jackpine Radical Mar 2015 #14
The fracking complaints are total BS. O'Malley allowed zero fracking as Governor. FSogol Mar 2015 #19
What he did, so many regs it'd take 3-4 years for the oil cos to break(literally) ground RiverLover Mar 2015 #23
Thanks, FSogol. elleng Mar 2015 #27
It's a start. FSogol Mar 2015 #29
Yes it is. elleng Mar 2015 #30
I saw this morning... yallerdawg Mar 2015 #13
Scary, ainnit? Jackpine Radical Mar 2015 #15
Well, when Gore "lost" to Bush... yallerdawg Mar 2015 #16
And another angle occurs to me-- Jackpine Radical Mar 2015 #17
I think this is the strategy. Let's say that Sen Sanders ran against HRC with just the two of them. rhett o rick Mar 2015 #21
If we depend on the MSM aspirant Mar 2015 #22
Grassroots, social media, constructing & pushing really good sound-bites Jackpine Radical Mar 2015 #25
likewise with Schweitzer: he was "the progressive" until everyone remembered MisterP Mar 2015 #20
I think it was more than just his not wanting wolves. RiverLover Mar 2015 #24
Wrong, and 'the little I've seen so far' elleng Mar 2015 #26
He reads strong aspirant Mar 2015 #31
I didn't see and don't care if the C of C likes him; elleng Mar 2015 #32
Depends on how the Chamber award was determined pscot Mar 2015 #36
Thanks for all the info elleng. RiverLover Mar 2015 #33
You're welcome. elleng Mar 2015 #34
Interesting.... KoKo Mar 2015 #35
My take: LWolf Mar 2015 #37

aspirant

(3,533 posts)
2. Could that backfire.
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 11:24 PM
Mar 2015

If they are both fighting for the corporatist vote, Bernie could slide in with a massive Progressive/Populist vote?

The spoiler role could be attached to either one.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
3. I think privately they are calling themselves "THE WARM PURPLE people eaters"
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 11:27 PM
Mar 2015

I know Hills loves her some warm purple. I don't know much about O'Malley, but I am not reassured by the fact that the Chamber of Commerce gives him a top grade.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
4. you always win when you support both sides of the war.
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 11:29 PM
Mar 2015

He's awful convenient although his first mention that I read had glowing hearts and rainbows.

Warpy

(113,130 posts)
5. A lot of us have been watching him for some time
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 12:01 AM
Mar 2015

because he talks a great populist economics fight. I'm afraid he scares them almost as much as seeing hysterics over the latest dumb scandal does.

If O'Malley runs, and it looks like he wants to, we might just see a real primary this time instead of the coronation Hillaryites have wanted since 2008.

I welcome the fight. It's the only chance we have to remind the party that we are still out here and that we are not going to be patient forever.

aspirant

(3,533 posts)
6. "Talks a great populist economics fight"
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 12:21 AM
Mar 2015

Can you help us with Populist ACTIONS during his governorship.

What about the previous poster's comment of a top grade with the Chamber of Commerce?

FSogol

(46,534 posts)
18. Here's his resume
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 02:46 PM
Mar 2015

For people unaware of O'Malley, here's his resume:

http://msa.maryland.gov/msa/mdmanual/08conoff/gov/former/html/msa13090.html

The bottom quarter is good reading on O'Malley's positions and what he accomplished in Maryland.

A former Governing Magazine “Public Official of the Year,” Governor O’Malley was re-elected in 2010. His 2013 legislative successes were described in a Baltimore Sun editorial as “without many parallels in recent Maryland history.”

With a balanced approach of spending cuts, regulatory reform, and modern investment in education, innovation, and infrastructure, Governor O’Malley and his Administration are making better choices that are delivering better results, including:

Fastest rate of job growth in the region.
#1 ranking for best public schools in America for an unprecedented five years in a row (Education Week).
#1 ranking for holding down the cost of college tuition (College Board).
#1 ranking for innovation and entrepreneurship for two years running (U.S. Chamber of Commerce).

Under the Governor’s leadership, Maryland also ranks:

#1 nationally in median income,
#1 in Ph.D. scientists and researchers per capita,
#1 in Research and Development, and
#1 in businesses owned by women.


Called “arguably the best manager in government” by Washington Monthly magazine, Governor O’Malley has cut State spending more than any previous governor in Maryland’s history, balancing these record cuts with targeted, modern investments in priorities like public education. He has reduced the size of government to its smallest size since 1973 (on a per capita basis) and reformed how it is managed, so that it works more efficiently and accountably. His actions to save Maryland’s State pension system have made it sustainable over the long term. His fiscal stewardship has nearly eliminated Maryland’s structural deficit. His efforts to streamline, consolidate and digitize processes like business licensing are making Maryland a better place to do business.



PS, part of a public informational archive and not bound by copyright.


The O’Malley-Brown Administration has expanded health care to more than 380,000 previously uninsured Marylanders. It has reduced infant mortality to an historic low, and provided meals to thousands of hungry children as it moves forward toward its goal for eradicating childhood hunger.

The Governor’s policies have made strides in restoring the health of the Chesapeake Bay and saving the Bay’s native blue crab and oyster populations.

The O’Malley Administration has secured millions of dollars in rate relief for Maryland energy consumers while jump-starting the creation of thousands of green energy sector jobs. Under Governor O’Malley’s leadership, Maryland led the charge for the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative (RGGI), the nation’s first cap-and-trade auction of greenhouse emissions.

Governor O’Malley has cut income taxes for 86% of Marylanders and reformed Maryland’s tax code to make it more progressive. In addition, he signed the nation’s first statewide living wage law, along with some of the nation’s most comprehensive reforms to protect homeowners from foreclosure.

Declaring that Marylanders are bound together by “the common thread of human dignity,” Governor O’Malley signed legislation to protect individual civil marriage rights and religious freedom, along with legislation to protect voting rights. He signed – and successfully defended at the ballot box – the DREAM Act, which expands the opportunity of a college education to more Marylanders.

Bombtrack

(9,523 posts)
7. Didn't Aidan Gillen (Littlefinger on Game of Thrones) play a character based on O'Malley on The Wire
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 12:58 AM
Mar 2015

I haven't ever seen a episode with that character.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
12. Yes, he did, Mayor of Baltimore.
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 01:05 PM
Mar 2015

Tommy Carcetti, who also went on to the Governor's race.

Great character - populist, too. Pragmatic politician.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
8. Kicked and recommended! Is O'Malley a reliable supply sider?
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 05:11 AM
Mar 2015

He must be or he wouldn't have corporate/MIC support. Hedging their bets is a good guess, an educated guess, Jackpine Radical.

Aren't we growing weary of this?

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
9. Somebody here posted some links about an O'Malley program that locked a lot of people up ...
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 06:01 AM
Mar 2015

... for really petty stuff. It reflected poorly on the Maryland governor. If I can find it, I'll post it here.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
11. Koch brothers, Fracking, Chickens, and O'Malley
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 12:43 PM
Mar 2015

This is from Food & Water Watch~

Governor O’Malley’s Corporate Ties


For years, Food & Water Watch has been working to unravel the close ties between the chicken industry — chief among them, the corporate giant Perdue, Inc. — and Democratic Governor Martin O’Malley. In 2012, we released emails obtained from a Public Information Act request showing an ultra-cozy relationship between Gov. O’Malley and Perdue lobbyist (and old O’Malley law school buddy) Herb Frerichs.

Back in November 2011, the Governor released a letter he wrote to the University of Maryland environmental law clinic, denouncing the merits of the ongoing litigation by local environmentalists against Perdue and essentially calling on students to represent polluters instead of nonprofits trying to protect the Bay. On the day that letter went public, the governor received a pat on the back from Frerichs in a stand-alone email that simply said, “Very nice.” Earlier that month, when Frerichs complained about O’Malley’s secretary of agriculture, Buddy Hance, compared to the agency’s counterparts in Delaware and Virginia, O’Malley responded: “I’m guessing you don’t have the personal email of governors of DE or VA, so let me know when Buddy can/should be doing more to help you push stuff. I’m serious. I’ll have him call you monday [sic].”

It was no surprise, then, that as soon as the Poultry Fair Share Act — a bill that would require the poultry industry to pay into a fund for Chesapeake Bay cleanup, just like Maryland citizens do — was introduced into the Maryland legislature earlier this year, O’Malley promptly came out and said he’d veto it. Nor was it surprising to see that around the time Governor O’Malley became head of the Democratic Governor’s Association (DGA), Perdue began shifting its political giving from the Republican Governor’s Association to the DGA, according to the Baltimore Sun.

....Another issue where Governor O’Malley is failing the environment and communities is fracking. The Governor has failed to stop Maryland from becoming the next Pennsylvania, and rules to establish fracking in the state are expected anytime. He’s also failed to support the community of Cove Point, Md. in their own fight to stop a dangerous liquefied natural gas export facility from being built in their backyard—which would send fracked gas to markets abroad where it can fetch the highest price. The DGA raked in over $3.5 million in contributions from the oil and gas industry between 2008-2012.

New Deal, or Business as Usual?

Governor O’Malley’s latest venture is an organization called NewDeal, a “newly launched national network searching the country for state and local elected leaders who are pro-growth progressives to help them share their innovative ideas.”

But according to VICE, the effort is secretly funded by the American Natural Gas Association, Wal-Mart, and some of the biggest corporations around. Like ALEC, the American Legislative Exchange Council, which uses its influence to promote policies favored by it’s corporate-backed funders (like ExxonMobil and the Koch Brothers), the NewDeal appears to be a new vehicle for influencing democratic leaders. It’s not surprising that Governor O’Malley is at the helm of the latest attempt by seemingly “progressive” politicians to take advantage of the rich resources corporations have at hand to influence decision making.

http://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/maryland/about-big-chicken-omalley/




Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
14. Nice find.
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 01:15 PM
Mar 2015

I kept my OP off GD because of its contentious nature (I didn't want to bring out a horde of the Usual Suspects), but I think you ought to post this source up there in the Big Time for everyone to see it.

FSogol

(46,534 posts)
19. The fracking complaints are total BS. O'Malley allowed zero fracking as Governor.
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 02:50 PM
Mar 2015

After Hogan won the election, he put up a ton of regulations to prevent Hogan from quickly opening the state up for fracking.

Some real info from Mother Jones magazine on the fracking issue in MD:

The real story (from Mother Jones)


"O'Malley is leaving office with a mixed, or at least nuanced, record on fracking. Western Maryland, just south of Pennsylvania, has natural gas deposits that are recoverable by fracking, but they have yet to be exploited. O'Malley imposed a moratorium on fracking in Maryland in 2011. But he's about to be succeeded by Republican Larry Hogan, an enthusiastic fracking proponent. So after the November election, O'Malley announced that he will unveil regulations this month that will allow fracking under limited circumstances, following the best practices of other states and imposing additional, stricter rules to curb air and water contamination and restrict where drilling can take place.

For some environmentalists, O'Malley's willingness to allow fracking at all is their one disappointment in his record. "I would prefer that O'Malley would come out in favor of a ban on fracking in Maryland," says Tidwell. But others say O'Malley is making a shrewd move. With rules in place before Hogan comes in, Hogan may find it more politically difficult to repeal them than he would have to simply not write any himself. "The fact that we have a governor-elect who wants to move forward on fracking means we want to get some protections in place as soon as possible," Karla Raettig, executive director of the Maryland League of Conservation Voters, told The Washington Post."



Whole article here: http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/12/martin-omalley-longshot-presidential-candidate-and-real-climate-hawk

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
23. What he did, so many regs it'd take 3-4 years for the oil cos to break(literally) ground
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 05:52 PM
Mar 2015

is pretty ingenious.

Thanks for sharing the MoJo article. It led me to this Mar 3 article on what's going on now with the new legislature in MD.

Looks like the only bills up are to Ban Fracking. In no small part to Gov O'Malley's regulations too, because they make it difficult for oil cos to even try anyways. At least that's the gist of what I got from the recent MD article~

http://www.somdnews.com/article/20150304/NEWS/150309862/1074/bills-call-for-moratorium-on-fracking-in-md&template=southernMaryland

He's definitely HUGELY better than Hillary in this regard, seeing as how as SOS, she "sold fracking to the world."

Thanks for setting us straight. O'Malley isn't perfect, but we're not going to find the perfect candidate.



yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
13. I saw this morning...
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 01:09 PM
Mar 2015

Martin O'Malley is going to run for President. How could an unknown newcomer possibly beat Hillary?

Then they flashed a quick picture of Barack Obama.

I suddenly had deja vu all over again.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
17. And another angle occurs to me--
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 02:03 PM
Mar 2015

If the press give all their attention to a "fight on the right" (staged or otherwise) between Hill & Marty, it sucks all the air out of the room for any progressive populist candidate, thereby neutralizing any threat from the Democratic Wing.

(Hill is maybe taking out Liz Warren insurance?)

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
21. I think this is the strategy. Let's say that Sen Sanders ran against HRC with just the two of them.
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 04:15 PM
Mar 2015

The media would have to give Sen Sanders some air time. If O'Malley runs then the media would have an excuse to ignore Sen Sanders.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
25. Grassroots, social media, constructing & pushing really good sound-bites
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 07:16 PM
Mar 2015

that activate generous, compassionate states in the public at large…

We need to be really smart, and think deeply about what we're doing. Ultimately, we have to change the dominant myths people tell themselves (austerity is just such a myth), thereby bringing them into fuller contact with reality.

In the meantime, we gotta get some people into power.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
20. likewise with Schweitzer: he was "the progressive" until everyone remembered
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 02:56 PM
Mar 2015

he didn't want any wolves in the US: a few defended that but it was over by then

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
24. I think it was more than just his not wanting wolves.
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 05:58 PM
Mar 2015

One idiotic quote, that saved us from him, and sunk his hopes for 2016~

"Schweitzer is incredulous that Feinstein—considered by her critics to be too close to the intelligence community—was now criticizing the (National Security Agency). "She was the woman who was standing under the streetlight with her dress pulled all the way up over her knees, and now she says, 'I'm a nun,' when it comes to this spying!" he says. Then, he adds, quickly, "I mean, maybe that's the wrong metaphor—but she was all in!""


Dodged a bullet there. (We did anyways, not the wolves)

elleng

(136,185 posts)
26. Wrong, and 'the little I've seen so far'
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 07:56 PM
Mar 2015

IS little.

O'Malley placed regulations in place before leaving office to limit the amount of phosphorous from chicken manure that could be used. No credit from that?

http://www.fredericknewspost.com/opinion/editorial/hogan-shelves-chicken-manure-rules/article_e1158828-cc00-5eb6-9b95-ff9ab74fd924.html

O’Malley’s time in Annapolis is also the story of an unbowed liberal champion, who muscled through a string of policy changes that will endure long after he departs Wednesday. Gay couples in Maryland can now marry; the state no longer executes prisoners; minimum-wage workers are getting pay increases; and undocumented immigrants can qualify for in-state college tuition rates. It is harder to buy a gun.

The state spent record amounts on education and more on roads, despite a recession, and there were steep drops in crime and a dramatic increase in people covered by subsidized health care — improvements made possible, O’Malley boosters say, by the very tax increases that became so reviled. . .

a former mayor of Baltimore who built his political reputation on fighting crime and pioneering a system of statistics-driven government that drew national and international attention. . .

The new governor immediately set out to strengthen the middle class, boost public safety and education, and improve health care and the environment. He froze public university tuition and dramatically increased funding for school construction.

Some of the high-profile changes that would become defining parts of his tenure were not on his radar screen in the beginning. O’Malley did not embrace same-sex marriage as a top priority, for example, until 2012, after it had failed in 2011 and supporters were looking for a champion.

A big test came late in O’Malley’s first year, when he called lawmakers back to Annapolis to resolve a long-standing “structural deficit” in the budget, namely the state’s practice of planning to spend more money than forecasters expected it to collect in revenue.

O’Malley offered a package of tax increases and budget cuts, as well as a plan to raise additional revenue by legalizing slot machines — a poisonous issue for much of Ehrlich’s term.

Legislative leaders cautioned against holding such an ambitious special session — particularly with no guarantee of success. But O’Malley pushed through his entire package, with some bills squeaking by after debates that stretched into the wee hours. He had established himself as a force to be reckoned with, even though some efforts — such as repealing the death penalty — didn’t succeed right away.

In the end, there was no major O’Malley initiative that didn’t make it across the finish line. In some cases, he showed a willingness to compromise that frustrated his allies — like slowing the pace of pay increases in a minimum wage bill.

O’Malley’s reliance on tax increases to balance the budget ignited a debate that continued through the 2014 election, in which Hogan proclaimed that O’Malley and Lt. Gov. Anthony G. Brown (D) “never met a tax that didn’t like or at least one they didn’t hike.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/in-defining-omalleys-legacy-liberal-successes-compete-with-tax-hikes/2015/01/19/5b951d4c-9d81-11e4-a7ee-526210d665b4_story.html

Amid cheers and camera flashes from a crush of onlookers, Gov. Martin O'Malley signed into law Thursday his bill legalizing same-sex marriage in Maryland — legislation that raises his national profile and, advocates say, gives momentum to those pushing similar measures in three states.

"The way forward is always found through greater respect for the equal rights of all," said O'Malley, giving brief remarks before signing the legislation. "If there is a thread that unites all of our work here together, it is the thread of human dignity. … Let's sign the bill."

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2012-03-01/news/bs-md-marriage-signing-20120224_1_marriage-bill-marriage-equality-maryland-marriage-alliance

Maryland immigrant tuition bill signed into law by Gov. O’Malley (2011)

Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley, bucking a trend in other states, signed off on legislation Tuesday that extends in-state tuition breaks to illegal immigrants at the state’s colleges and universities.

O’Malley’s signature sets up a showdown with opponents who have already started gathering signatures for a petition to try to repeal the law, which is slated to take effect this summer.

Supporters of the new law, including dozens of religious leaders, immigrant advocates, Democratic lawmakers and students, jammed the governor’s reception room at the State House in Annapolis to pose for photos and celebrate during the signing ceremony.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/politics/gov-martin-omalley-signs-immigrant-tuition-bill-into-law-in-maryland/2011/05/10/AFNNz8jG_story.html

O'Malley had phosphorus regulations set to be enacted. ...the new governor pulled the plug.

Dealing with the poultry industry in the state is made more difficult by the legislature. O'Malley eventually came down on the right side of the issue, but he was too late; maybe by design, I don't know.

Still, this isn't something that should damn him for consideration to office. he's been a champion in our state for environmental issues related to the bay...


The University of Maryland Center for Environmental Science presented Gov. Martin O’Malley (D) with the Reginald V. Truitt Environmental Award for his environmental leadership in Maryland. He received the award Sept. 30 at a special ceremony with invited guests at the Institute of Marine and Environmental Technology at Baltimore’s Inner Harbor.

“From record farmland acres planted with cover crops to thousands of citizens growing oysters off their piers, to preserving hundreds of thousands of acres of open space, farm and forest lands, we’ve created common, publicly-available platforms and leveraged state resources to restore the streams and rivers we’ve inherited,” said O’Malley in a press release. “I’m honored to accept this award on behalf of all Marylanders — it is through their tireless dedication and commitment that will continue to establish a healthier Chesapeake Bay, and create a more sustainable future for the next generation.”

The University of Maryland Center for Environmental Science’s Reginald V. Truitt Environmental Award honors a Marylander whose dedication, efforts and achievements in the fields of public service, communication and management have resulted in the better understanding and stewardship of Maryland’s environment, the release states. Past recipients of the award include former Maryland Sen. C. Bernard Fowler, U.S. Sen. Charles M. Mathias, Gov. Harry R. Hughes, Gov. Parris N. Glendening and U.S. Sen. Paul S. Sarbanes. Three of the five past recipients were in attendance. O’Malley is the sixth person to be honored with the Reginald V. Truitt Environmental Award.

“Governor O’Malley has listened to science in striving for Chesapeake Bay restoration and sustainable growth in Maryland. His leadership in responding to climate change through energy conservation and transformation has set a national standard,” said Donald Boesch, president of the University of Maryland Center for Environmental Science, in the release. “We as citizens of Maryland have been fortunate to have a governor with such vision, intelligence and commitment to our environmental future.”

O’Malley has served the people of Maryland as governor since 2007 and led the region in protecting the Chesapeake Bay, according to the release. During his administration, O’Malley has been the nation’s leading governor on the environment, the release states. He has pushed for stronger environmental regulations and has led the restoration of the bay. Maryland is the only state that has consistently met its two-year milestones, ensuring that short-term progress leads to long-term restoration.

Under his leadership, Maryland has worked with its partners to adopt management strategies to rebuild the blue crab population, and has made significant progress in restoring the oyster population and expanding the aquaculture industry, the release continues. He led the creation of BayStat, a data-driven performance management tool, to steadily reduce nitrogen and phosphorus polluting the bay. He has also led the state’s efforts to adopt, and become an active member in, the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative, the nation’s first market-based regulatory program in the United States to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

During his administration, Maryland has added more renewable energy to its grid than any time since the Conowingo Dam was built 80 years ago, according to the release. In 2009, he led the state’s efforts to pass the Greenhouse Gas Reduction Act that will reduce greenhouse gases 25 percent by the year 2020.


read more: http://www.somdnews.com/article/20150123/NEWS/150129622/1059/o-x2019-malley-receives-truitt-award-for-environmental-leadership&template=southernMaryland

aspirant

(3,533 posts)
31. He reads strong
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 09:00 PM
Mar 2015

on the environment, but I'm concerned with his Chamber of Commerce rating and being a co-founder of the NewDeal. The economic Populism is a concern for me.

How does he compare with Obama and then Bernie?

elleng

(136,185 posts)
32. I didn't see and don't care if the C of C likes him;
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 09:05 PM
Mar 2015

means business in MD is good, I think, which is good, and I don't know anything about NewDeal.

Compare with Obama and Bernie? Who knows; each of us would evaluate him differently, I expect. He's governed a successful state, as distinguished from them, closer to POTUS than Bernie, I suppose, in that respect.

pscot

(21,037 posts)
36. Depends on how the Chamber award was determined
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 01:59 PM
Mar 2015

If there's some clearly defined metric that determines where the award goes, or if it's purely discretionary.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
33. Thanks for all the info elleng.
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 09:39 PM
Mar 2015

I know you like him.

He's definitely better than any Rethug!! I would vote for him in the GE (can't say that about The One).

But you guys motivated me to research & find more to like about him. I found out he's Third Way instead. I'm sorry. This isn't a smear.

It just is.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Governor/Martin_O%60Malley_Principles_+_Values.htm

As New Democrats, we believe in a Third Way that rejects the old left-right debate and affirms America’s basic bargain: opportunity for all, responsibility from all, and community of all.

We believe:
that government’s proper role in the New Economy is to equip working Americans with new tools for economic success and security.
in expanding trade and investment because we must be a party of economic progress, not economic reaction.
that fiscal discipline is fundamental to sustained economic growth as well as responsible government.
that a progressive tax system is the only fair way to pay for government.
the Democratic Party’s mission is to expand opportunity, not government.
that education must be America’s great equalizer, and we will not abandon our public schools or tolerate their failure.
that all Americans must have access to health insurance.
in preventing crime and punishing criminals.
in a new social compact that requires and rewards work in exchange for public assistance and that ensures that no family with a full-time worker will live in poverty.
that public policies should reinforce marriage, promote family, demand parental responsibility, and discourage out-of-wedlock births.
in enhancing the role that civic entrepreneurs, voluntary groups, and religious institutions play in tackling America’s social ills.
in strengthening environmental protection by giving communities the flexibility to tackle new challenges that cannot be solved with top-down mandates.
government must combat discrimination on the basis of race, creed, gender, or sexual orientation; defend civil liberties; and stay out of our private lives.
that abortion should be safe, legal, and rare.
in progressive internationalism -- the bold exercise of US leadership to foster peace, prosperity, and democracy.
that the US must maintain a strong, technologically superior defense to protect our interests and values.




Third Way Renewable Energy Press Conference
Transcipt, Martin O'Malley Speech, July 2011
http://martinomalley.com/2011/07/19/third-way-renewable-energy-press-conference/



"My daughters will e-mail me when they see the honorable mentions with such tremendous leaders as Hillary Clinton and Andrew Cuomo, who’s done an outstanding job in New York, and Vice President Biden, who my daughters just adore,” said O’Malley, speaking at the centrist Democratic think tank Third Way in Washington. "

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/Decoder/2012/0420/Martin-O-Malley-for-president-in-2016-He-drops-a-few-hints


elleng

(136,185 posts)
34. You're welcome.
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 10:07 PM
Mar 2015

I'm not sure what this means, and note this speech occurred in 2011. He still did what he did, as governor, and said this, among other things:

Our Greatest Challenges Are Political

Our greatest challenges, I submit to you, are therefore not financial, nor are they technological. Our greatest challenges are political. Our greatest challenges are political.

To move forward, we have to ask ourselves whether we still have the ability as a nation to govern ourselves, to build that next chapter of this tremendous public-private partnership that built railroads and moon shots and everything else. You want to talk about clean energy, as a moral and historical imperative, combine the technology of the moon shot with the securing of this world for individual freedom and democracy of the Second World War, along with the vision and the investment of the transcontinental railroads and other great endeavors, and they’re all here in this one endeavor. . .

But a modern economy requires modern investments if it’s going to achieve the balance necessary to create jobs.

Maryland & Clean Energy

In this spirit, let me share with you some of the things that we are doing in Maryland.

In Baltimore County, thanks to President Obama’s help, we were able to create about 800 jobs building the next generation of green electric motors. And that tremendous turnaround, the public-private partnership that has led to the turnaround of GM, advanced manufacturing, happening here in our country, building the next generation of electric drive motors not in Mexico, but here in Maryland. By the way, they’re housing them in a plant that is powered largely by solar.

In another example, through a tax incentive initiative we call the Sustainable Communities Tax Credit, we’re using the tax code to help local governments team with businesses on green buildings and creating jobs in the process.

We were the first State to adopt the International Green Construction Code. We’ve also passed reforms that require all new public buildings in our State to earn LEED Silver Certification – that is our schools, our colleges, universities and the like. We’ve worked with the U.S. Green Building Council on these priorities, recognizing that they’re good for jobs, good for business, and, yes, good for sustainable energy and the future climate and oxygen of this planet.

We’re working across sectors to advance solar energy in Maryland. We have a combination of new policy choices, including stacked State, local and Federal credits, direct investment and a specific carve-out for solar energy, as part of our renewable energy portfolio. We’ve also been able to create a significant number of new jobs in our State. Our people in economic development say that there are about 1,200 jobs now in solar in our State, where just a few years ago in 2006 you’d barely find that industry registering anywhere in our State.


P.S., I like him, he was my governor, I also like VP Biden and Elizabeth Warren. I like Hillary less than the others, for POTUS, but would surely vote for her.

KoKo

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35. Interesting....
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 07:17 PM
Mar 2015

I think you could be onto something in strategy here. I wondered that also...so thanks to know that someone else picked up something "interesting" there, also.

And...I didn't want to post concerns either...but, glad you did.

We should explore all angles in this upcoming election and not sweep things "out the door"..as dust....

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