Progressives: We’ve Never Heard Of This “Progressive” Group Backing Obama’s Trade Deal
3/12/15
WASHINGTON On Wednesday, progressives were surprised to learn they were split on President Obamas trade agenda.
Few issues have galvanized the American left like trade promotion authority, legislation that would pave the way for the administration to fast-track trade negotiations and the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) the trade deal the Obama administration is working tirelessly to make a reality and many Democrats oppose. From senators to the activists that make up the organized left (trade unions, environmentalists, human rights advocates), progressives cant stand the trade deal.
Yet there it was in black and white: RIFT AMONG PROGRESSIVES EMERGES ON TPP, read a headline in Politicos daily labor and employment tipsheet, Morning Shift. The short item detailed the emergence of the Progressive Coalition for American Jobs a group of progressives and Democrats committed to leveling the playing field for American workers, according to the coalitions barebones website. The website adds that its critical that we give the president trade promotion authority and establish the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
Theres something weird about the group, though: No one in the Washington, D.C., progressive community seems to have ever heard of them before.
Who are they? Are they getting paid? And this group will convince anybody of what? asked Sen. Sherrod Brown. There is zero progressive interest in this [trade promotion authority].
....Its insulting, said Candice Johnson, spokesperson for the Communications Workers of America, one of the many unions organized against TPP. You put progressive in your name and thats going to convince people?
She called the group fake, noting that it includes none of the biggest names in progressive politics in its coalition. Johnson wasnt alone in that characterization.
As far as I know, the only thing progressive about this so called Progressive Coalition for American Jobs is the first word of the groups name, said Becky Bond, president of CREDO, the San Francisco-based progressive activist known to tangle publicly with the White House.
The Progressive Coalition For American Jobs strikes a nerve with organized progressives, who often feel sidelined in prominent debates, even during the Obama administration. The invovlment of 270 Strategies, which supported the candidate progressives opposed in a strange Democrat-vs-Democrat California congressional race last year, was particularly upsetting for some on the left.
At this point, 270 strategies is well known for its AstroTurf efforts to slap a progressive label on the endeavors of Wall Street Wing Democrats and their corporate masters, but this is an earth-shattering new low, Neil Sroka, spokesperson for Democracy For America, the progressive group formed from the remnants of Howard Deans 2004 presidential bid, told BuzzFeed News in an email. You can be a progressive committed to fighting for working families or you can be for this massive job-killing trade deal written by 500 corporate reps, but you cant be both....
http://www.buzzfeed.com/evanmcsan/progressives-weve-never-heard-of-this-progressive-group-back#.xqypLYVYb
4dsc
(5,787 posts)They firmly believe that we are as stupid as the Republicans. That site is insulting.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)The more American goods and services are traded overseas, the more jobs are
required to support them here at home. In fact, every $1 billion in exports supports
between 5,200 to 7,000 jobs here in the US.
http://static1.squarespace.com/static/54e2b1d1e4b043f1c9a2a9ed/t/54fcf33ae4b00126ca69694f/1425863549639/TPP-fact-sheet-030815.pdf
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)It's amazing they believe this effort is convincing.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)According to this bit from DailyKos, it's an outfit from Mitch Stewart and Lynda Tran. Over on smirkingchimp, there's a little exposure on 270 Strategies. It appears that the Politico article is paid advertisement (why anyone here takes politico as credible remains beyond my fathoming, but whatever.)
It does appear they think we're fucking dumb.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Again,
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)We aren't the intended market. I think this stuff is there to hoodwink "investigative reporters" into buying the "Progressives are split" line.
They don't worry their little heads about our collective IQ; we're not the audience for this shit. Fake Netroots.
NBachers
(18,139 posts)Anyone else see one?
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Click on 'donate' at http://www.pcaj.org/ ~
djean111
(14,255 posts)Hell, when all that money is traced back to its source, might even be the same people. Who benefits? would be my question here.
Also, I guess since the Third Way has not managed to completely rid their party of liberals and Progressives, maybe they are trying a bit of make-believe and theater. Fail.
You know the way that anything that criticizes Hillary or praises someone who is Not Hillary is swiftly investigated as to who wrote it and how can they be discredited? Hey - we can do some investigation ourselves, we don't just fall into line because someone cynically puts the word "Progressives" on a Third Way group and website.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)And if it ever came out that some of the "dark money" funding certain Democrats originated from the Koch Bros, I wouldn't be at all surprised. Wish we had a way to find that out, but the hidden donations are called dark for a reason. They're kept out of the light...for a reason.
I know Koch's helped fund the "old" DLC back in the day. Can't help but wonder about today.
LuvNewcastle
(17,027 posts)BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)They give out cufflinks as thank you gifts.
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)Another BS name for a so-called "think tank" that doesn't reflect what they really are up to.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Policy_Institute
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)No wonder we are in the fix we're in. "Our side" isn't actually our side.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Feb 2014
...Nicholas Lemann in his review of Ira Katznelsons book, Fear Itself: The New Deal and the Origins of Our Time, reminds us that during Roosevelts first term the threat of fascism was real, that alternate systems were on the verge of imposing themselves by force on many other countries.
Yet, by the counter-force of his personal will and his creative policies, Roosevelt steered America and arguably the world away from that abyss. But modern Democrats are hesitant to celebrate the contributions of FDR and his New Deal.
These days, the Democratic Party acts more like an enabler of the Republican Party as it seeks to poison the memory of the 32nd president and bury the significance of what FDR accomplished....
https://consortiumnews.com/2014/02/04/fear-itself-democrats-duck-fdrs-lessons/
bvar22
(39,909 posts)or LBJ and the Great Society, War on Poverty and Civil Rights.
That all went down the Party Memory Hole (along with the LABOR Movement),
and was replaced by praise for Reagan and other "moderate Republicans from the 80s".
Excuse me now while I go throw up.
TBF
(34,348 posts)same old "third way" BS.
stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)And taunt true progressives no doubt.
Hopefully their little group will be thoroughly discredited.
stonecutter357
(12,770 posts)RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)I like how your images line up, though. indeed, sir
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)I bet you're right.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Pakid
(478 posts)Who will do whatever it takes to get their greedy hands on more of our money!
secondwind
(16,903 posts)dembotoz
(16,922 posts)Baitball Blogger
(48,110 posts)DC was loaded with Liberals, so the propaganda must be working.
He was mocking the Liberals for something that I knew wasn't a progressive issue. So I asked him who was in this progressive group that I might recognize. He replied, Hillary Clinton. He couldn't understand why I disagreed with his appraisal of her as a Liberal and had to explain to him how regulation of Wall Street was a major progressive issue, and Clinton was definitely not in favor of Wall Street regulation. He was even surprised to know that she began her political career as a Republican.
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)You can be a progressive committed to fighting for working families or you can be for this massive job-killing trade deal written by 500 corporate reps, but you cant be both....
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)freebrew
(1,917 posts)the Democratic Party. If this is truly coming from POB's administration, it's disastrous and he should be ashamed.
Has Rachel exposed this yet?
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)No one speaks for me, not even the President, and certainly not some splinter group that endlessly criticizes Obama.
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)completely subservient to the Third Way. And poop.
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)"top 10 republican weasel tactics" playbook.
djean111
(14,255 posts)Warren were showing up in what seemed like every thread, for a while.
Heh, it would have taken so much less effort to make those charts part of a sig line or avatar or something.
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)It doesn't make sense unless it was designed by a libertarian. For one thing, it appears that they use social issues and nothing else to determine the right left axis, also, the poles on top or bottom don't appear to me to make any sense at all.
It is nothing like the more valid graphs used to objectively measure political leanings, it appears to be just propaganda.
We need to find out who designed it, to what purpose, and why it is used specifically for Hillary Clintron in order to spoof the similar graphs that once were used to legitimately place people on the right left spectrum.
I suspect it was designed deliberately to mislead. I would like us all to try to discover it's origin, it's methodology and what faux progressive or astro turf group is responsible for it.
It is obviously bullshit, and I would like it to be answered every time it appears succinctly, with facts, as to why it is bullshit and who is behind it.
Just compare it to the chart usually used, one that is/was used before I ever saw the one that places Clinton inexplicably far left.
https://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2008
Some example graphics taken from the page I linked above.
As you can see, when not using a fake chart and methodology, one can see a more realistic placement of Hillary Clinton.
Knowing or sensing it is bullshit is one thing, shoving the lie in their faces with truth and an explanation as to how, why, and by whom the misinformation is spread woul,d be to expose a scam that has become of critical importance the more Vannila and friends use it to lie and the uninformed that just take the lie at face value because it looks to them like valid charts they have seen before.
We have clever people here, lets completely unmask this bit of propaganda for all to see evey time they pull it out of their third way trickster bag!
You should make this an OP.
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)I am hoping that as a group we can discover who created it, why, and if they belong to an astroturf group or even a Republican outfit trying to make her appear too commie for America.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)We don't know what's in it!
Trade deals are always secret!!
Don't you care about workers in other countries!?!
I trust President Obama implicitly!!!
Purity far-left leaning firebaggers!!!!
djean111
(14,255 posts)BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)They're just too lazy!
Warren isn't running!!
STFU Fringe Leftists!!!!! - signed, guy from Canada
bvar22
(39,909 posts)I believe she was talking about the ACA at the time,
but that mind set applies here too.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Because the most important thing is that impeachment is off the table! Ask American Samoa.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)DonCoquixote
(13,712 posts)If the Third way wants to know why we hate them, among several other reasons, they take our name and try to use it against us.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)..."The American Worker can compete with any worker in the world",
and everybody cheered because they didn't understand that he was REALLY saying,
The American Worker will be forced to compete with 3rd World Slave Labor for their jobs.
There is a line in the OP from the phoney "Progressive" group that reminded me of that old Clinton line:
progressives and Democrats committed to leveling the playing field for American workers,
Yes, but what they mean by "leveling the playing field" is to cut American "Worker" Wages and Benefits to 3rd World levels (and increase their profit margin).
[font size=3] We're gonna TAKE it ALL, Suckers,
and you can't stop us.
We OWN you and the USA government, Suckers!!!!
Hahahahahahahaha!
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)He was my first vote & I bought his lines on NAFTA. Hook line & sinker. I'm so SICK of fake Progressives screwing US over.
pa28
(6,145 posts)This also means balancing our environmental regulation and labor law with countries like Vietnam and Brunei.
Sounds great to the casual observer because everybody likes a level playing field right?
Read the fine print.