Vice President Clinton?
or VP Sanders?
It's very likely that one of these two candidates will win the Dem nomination (no offense to O'Malley...the only other candidate with even the slightest of chances). When that time comes, the party will have to turn it's united focus on the Clown Car.
In 2008, the "Party Unity My Ass" call rang out from Hillary's camp. Will that happen again?
I recently saw an OP discussing an interview where Bernie shared some ideas about possible Cabinet Posts in his administration.
Let's speculate about the VP spot.
My questions -
1. To Sanders voters who have declared they'd never vote for Hillary, would that pledge change with a Sanders/Clinton ticket?
2. To Hillary supporters - Considering the respectful way Bernie has run his campaign, are you open to a Hillary/Sanders ticket?
Let's assume, for the sake of the question, that either candidate would offer, or accept such an offer.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)though the "there" she should stay doesn't have much to do with the Senate.
merrily
(45,251 posts)IMO, the reality is that they don't want Sanders or Warren as President, even if both were to retire from the Senate tomorrow.
monmouth4
(10,144 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)but realistically? If fate conspired, and Bernie asked Hillary to be the VP, it wouldn't affect my vote for him one tiny little bit
No Vested Interest
(5,196 posts)and who's the VP candidate.
Could never vote Republican after what they've done to our nation.
I'm presently undeclared as to a favorite.
All have pluses and minuses.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)If either of them felt the other was going to do a good job as President, they wouldn't be running.
demwing
(16,916 posts)I can also see either asking O'Malley.
Just because each thinks they would be the superior candidate, does not imply that either thinks the other to be unqualified.
marym625
(17,997 posts)Not that he wouldn't do well, but a Sanders/O'Malley ticket wouldn't be a good mix.
merrily
(45,251 posts)I don't think Hillary would drop out even if she thought Bernie would be as good as all the four Presidents carved into stone on that mountain combined. She wants it for herself, period.
I don't think Bernie thinks Hillary will make a great President, though.
nxylas
(6,440 posts)It's traditional for a candidate to choose a VP whose strengths compliment the presidential candidate's main weaknesses. Bernie's main weakness is probably lack of foreign policy experience, so a former secretary of state would make sense.
merrily
(45,251 posts)gwheezie
(3,580 posts)If the loser spun off to run as a 3rd party I would still vote for the dem ticket even if the loser was my pick.
I don't like a Clinton/Sanders ticket or vice versa. I would like the VP pick to be someone who will run after a 2 term president.
demwing
(16,916 posts)Biden doesn't seem to be running. Cheney didn't run (thank god). I'm not sure the VP slot id a door to the White House anymore.
MuseRider
(34,375 posts)we would ever see this happen.
He may respect her and he may like her but trust her?
I can't see him leaving the senate for a spot where he has to do what she says for him to do. Can you? I can't see her being any advantage at all to him. He is running against everything she says she does not believe in but is. She IS what he is running against.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)I don't think either will pick the other.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)either one picking the other as VP.
My prediction is that the eventual VP choice will be someone not currently running. And no, not Joe Biden either.
marym625
(17,997 posts)Sorry. I don't think it's even an option for either candidate.
I think when Sanders gets the nomination, Barbara Lee would be his choice for the VP spot.
I think that Clinton is looking at Kerry or O'Malley.
merrily
(45,251 posts)rbnyc
(17,045 posts)I don't want a neutered Sanders in a corporate white house as a token. And I don't want a third way dem as VP.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)Essentially: "NFW Hillary gets that close to the White House."
Hillary supporters are either fine with the pairing, or don't follow this group.
Can't imagine why
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)Hillary, if elected, would be (at first inauguration) the second-oldest President ever, younger than Reagan by less than a year. Bernie is several years older than Hillary.
Either one, as the nominee, will face some concern (real or feigned) about the age issue. Either one, as the nominee, will therefore pick a running mate who is considerably younger, probably someone in his or her fifties (like O'Malley but there are many other possibilities) or near there, i.e., late forties (e.g., one of the Castro brothers) or early sixties (e.g., Sherrod Brown).
You can decry ageism all you want, but enough voters would feel that concern to make Clinton/Sanders or Sanders/Clinton a bad idea.
If by "Clinton" you meant Chelsea, she's probably too young, even though she reached the Constitutional minimum age a few months ago.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)I could see her using the office to attempt to undermine President Sanders and thwart a populist, progressive revolution in the Democratic party that threatens her paymasters.
Also, there's the "I honestly believe that Hillary Clinton is every bit as evil and a poor choice for President as Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz or Jeb!" thing.
Literally, the only person that the GOP could nominate that might motivate me to cast a vote for Hillary rather than stay home is Donald Trump. All other circumstances, I'd pay to see her forced off the world stage into (involuntary) retirement. I only vote for real Democrats. If I don't have a real Democrat to vote for, I vote for the most liberal choice I have.
merrily
(45,251 posts)IMO, no good could come of it and, if anything, I imagine mixed messaging being the result.
You can't have a genuine champion of the working woman/man in the lead role while the second in command is so friendly with the wealthy and powerful.
It makes no sense.
Apologies to her supporters.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Politically, the ticket should strive for balance.
Aside from the years she spent in Arkansas because that was Bill's state, Hillary is either from Illinois, which is not awful as balance, but remote in time, or from New York. Overall, she is a D.C. insider. Sanders is from Vermont and also D.C. insider, though an indie for most of the time and, in some ways sui generis.
In age, Hillary will turn 70 during year 1 of that administration and 73 in year 4--and that's only term one, while Bernie will turn 76 and 80, respectively. Not much diversity there, either.
Both are white. I think it's time for someone of color in the Vice President spot. Going on demographics alone, I would have a small preference for Hispanic.
The only diversity on a Sanders Hillary ticked or a Hillary Sanders ticket would be gender.
Moreover, why would either one of them WANT to be vice President?
whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)shill for Wall Street who cannot be counted on when needed to improve the quality of life of American workers.
SamKnause
(13,817 posts)2. No
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)With enthusiasm!
merrily
(45,251 posts)Android3.14
(5,402 posts)But mollifying the Clinton crowd is going to be a major hurdle.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Not as though it's going to help her take the Oval Office at some future date.
demwing
(16,916 posts)Possible reasons:
Hillary would be the first female VP
Increased access to power
Increased speaking fees
All reasons it might be good for her, but not for us.
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)Then I guess we know how well we can rely on Ms. Clinton.