It's so f*ing clear why tptb don't want to give MO'M the time of day,

[elleng]

but wtf is up with DU???

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251565697#post14

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12812961

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12812901

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12812804

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12812815

SORRY to say this may be too much reading for DUers!

[guillaumeb]

1. I skimmed the references. One question.

What does tptb mean? I do not believe that I have ever seen this acronym.

Thanks.

[elleng]

2. The Powers that Be, guillaumeb.

Thanks for skimming.

[guillaumeb]

9. I have actually read some of the posts.

And yes, it is too much reading for many readers. O'Malley needs to find a way to fit his entire economic plan on the palm of his hand, a la Sarah Palin. Where, in a campaign dominated by endless 30 second attack ads, will there be room for nuanced debate?

I do not know if you saw the Frank Luntz post where a likely GOP voter was quoted as saying that she believed Trump because the saying on his hat matched his speech. Very sad, but unfortunately typical of many voters.

Thank you for the acronym update.

[elleng]

10. Missed that luntz post,

THANK GOODNESS! It's pretty damn clear 'likely GOP voters' are fools, but silly me/us expect better from DEMS!!!

TOO DAMN bad that a well-prepared candidate with great plans can't break through, but this was and is repug's plan: DUMB them down, VOILA! And it's gotten to DU!!!

Thanks for your time, guill.

[villager]

3. About time you O'Malley supporters starting swearing like the rest of us!

(But really -- do any of us have much hope/faith in the MSM to do anything "credible" at this point?)

On edit: As for DUers, well, perhaps people are too busy ducking all the virtual shrapnel (or generating it!) for deliberative reads?

[elleng]

4. We do swear, in private at least, villager.

TOO BAD DUers are ducking instead of informing themselves! I spend NO TIME reading the shrapnel-evoking stuff; LOTS more important things to do.

[madinmaryland]

6. We do swear about how Martin O'Malley was a great FUCKING governor!! FUCK YEAH!!

[elleng]

7. HEY, mad!!!

[Raine1967]

13. FUCKIN A mad!

Husband & I are still thinking about moving to Maryland when we can finally get a down payment… it's simply because of how progressive it is.

Hogan is an issue.

I have watched this man since he became governor— and I was living in NY at the time!

Moved to georgia and now am in NoVA, I have watched him and I think he damn good at what he does.

[MuseRider]

8. I am sorry.

I like him and I like all of you. I try to respond but miss a lot and I don't want it to sound like I am just being nice because I really can't talk about him with much knowledge. He is good and those of you who support him are doing your level best.

I supported Kucinich twice. I remember how that feels, the camera stopping at his shoulder the questions about the stupid things that were said about him personally. I think a lot of us know and feel really good about him but are so engrossed in what we are doing it seems like no one cares he is there. I don't think that is true.

[brer cat]

11. These threads could be the basis

for great debate on DU, except there appears to be little interest in anything beyond brief memes, snark, and bouncing whatever those irritating things are. M O'M gets less attention than the men who are desperately seeking extramarital affairs.

I think the primaries are an interesting time to learn about new candidates, and explore the policies and priorities we would like to see adopted by our eventual nominee. I rather suspect there are many DUers who would join such a conversation except that the vitriol has become too off-putting.

You know you have a great candidate, but that doesn't help much when no one is paying him any attention.

[elleng]

12. You've got it, brer cat,

would be a great debate here, and the primaries are a good time, and as seems clear, the DEM ptb don't want discussion and debate, and DUers go along with it.

[Raine1967]

14. I will tell you something, tonite I was on a conference call with the O'malley campaign.

They are working the grassroots hard.

DU is a great peace to discuss, but this is not where the game is happening. I love DU but DU is not where the game is right now.

[elleng]

15. Great to hear that there's 'life' elsewhere, Raine.

[Koinos]

16. DU posters have made their choice, and it's not O'Malley.

However, DU world has little or nothing to do with the real world.

We have to take the debate into the real world.