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silverweb

(16,402 posts)
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 01:35 AM Oct 2015

On the bright side.

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]I've been poor all my adult life. I've raised two kids alone, without the benefit of legally owed child support (courts were no help at all back then), working and worrying about child care and all the other attendant problems of single motherhood.

I was "fired" from two jobs for leaving work for child-related emergencies, only to be ordered back to work the next day when I didn't show up because I thought I'd been fired.

But you know what? My kids grew up in a poor but peaceful home, unspoiled, and understanding and compassionate towards others who struggle, too. They make me very proud of the adults they've become.

We learned to be resourceful, creative, and think outside the box. We embraced our lives by living simply and focusing on important things - things like their education and being caring of others.

I'm still poor. Social Security isn't nearly enough to live on, so I still work part time and will continue to work until I'm incapacitated.

But I've never been happier. I consider the working poor "my people" because they're generally more down-to-earth, honest, and kind - but I'm not shamed or intimidated by people with money, like I was when I was much younger. I have enough to get by and even to be able to help some who have less.

Life can still be good when one is poor, but only if basic needs are met. That's why universal healthcare is so very important, why insane housing costs need to be controlled, and why the necessities of life need to be accessible to all.

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On the bright side. (Original Post) silverweb Oct 2015 OP
There are good things. F4lconF16 Oct 2015 #1
Sorry about your bike! silverweb Oct 2015 #3
bike bike or bike bicycle w0nderer Oct 2015 #11
Bicycle. F4lconF16 Oct 2015 #17
Nice ride! w0nderer Oct 2015 #18
Ah, this was super helpful! F4lconF16 Oct 2015 #19
okay if your bb (bottom bracket) is broken w0nderer Oct 2015 #20
point of this group....we help eachother w0nderer Oct 2015 #24
I've made a choice marym625 Oct 2015 #2
I'm with you there! silverweb Oct 2015 #4
politics of corporations. Sigh marym625 Oct 2015 #5
Yup. silverweb Oct 2015 #6
. marym625 Oct 2015 #7
Right? silverweb Oct 2015 #8
In 1962 my mother moved from upstate NY SheilaT Oct 2015 #9
"...not the end of the world." silverweb Oct 2015 #12
Well, this is fishy. I just now read - kinda deja vu, really - that Bernie's supporters djean111 Oct 2015 #10
What?? silverweb Oct 2015 #13
here - djean111 Oct 2015 #14
Had to read the thread (then looked up some of your historic posts) w0nderer Oct 2015 #15
Haven't had time to read it all today. silverweb Oct 2015 #22
take a breather w0nderer Oct 2015 #23
Well tazkcmo Oct 2015 #16
50% beats normal statistics ! LOL welcome n/t w0nderer Oct 2015 #21
I'm old (to some) and white (more or less). ladyVet Oct 2015 #25

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
1. There are good things.
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 01:51 AM
Oct 2015

The best people I know learned to help others and fight for others because they've been there. There is a reason poorer people are (and this has been proven many times over) more empathetic.

I can't say I enjoy not knowing what's coming down the pipeline in a month, or even a few weeks. I recently learned I'm going to have to replace the crank and my rear cassette on my bike, and it may end up being the whole drivetrain in a couple of months (I ride it hard, sadly, and proper maintenance only does so much). Knowing your life depends on a few hundred bucks you don't have yet isn't a good feeling.

But on the other hand, I know that if I ever am in the position to help someone out, I'll do it without a second thought. I'm not sure I would have felt the same if I'd not been poor. I like that feeling less than I do the other one.

I too have never been happier, and I've got less materially than I ever have before. I feel rich, though--I know the people around me care, a lot. That's worth more to me than any monetary amount I could think of.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
3. Sorry about your bike!
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 02:05 AM
Oct 2015

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]I hope you get a good deal on the repairs you need and find the money when you need it.

You're absolutely right about caring people being worth more than any amount of money!



w0nderer

(1,937 posts)
11. bike bike or bike bicycle
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 03:14 PM
Oct 2015

if it's bicycle i might be able to give some advice (my "jack of some trades" includes: shimano certified bicycle technician)

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
17. Bicycle.
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 05:48 PM
Oct 2015

Though I want to get a used electric superbike in 3 or 4 years

I'm riding a Masi Gran Corsa with a 105 set at the moment (Ultegra rear derailleur, which is so nice...). Thankfully no issues with the carbon forks, so that's a relief. Everything seems to be in pretty good condition other than those issues. Had to rebuild the front wheel after a hit and run, but it's solid as a rock even with the potholes out here, which is nice.

I got the bike used, so the drivetrain was bound to start wearing at some point. At this point the chain is married to the front rings and the cassette, so when it needs to be replaced, it all has to go.

Any advice for care and maintenance or bike repair tips/resources would be greatly appreciated

Oh, one thing: I spent 6 hours working on it on Monday. Turns out whoever installed the crank linkage bolt (I think that's the name of the part) put it in without lube. I had to blast it 3 times with a releaser and it still barely came out. It was gross with metal shavings and crap inside, but it's all cleaned out now. It was stuck so bad though that we had to hammer the part off the wrench we used to unstick it

w0nderer

(1,937 posts)
18. Nice ride!
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 05:59 PM
Oct 2015

OOkay so drive train 1500-3000 miles per chain possibly 1.5-2 times that per rear cassette, less if you torque it (less than 60 pedal strokes per minute), more if you don't
the front you should on ultegra be able to get rings only (chainrings) at $20 as opposed to the hundreds for a crank

also check hubs, steering and bottom bracket for play (instant pain if there is some)

if you primarily use the small gear on rear cassette , it exists as a separate part (8-9-10 ultegra lock gear)


keeping the chain clean (obviously)
keeping 2-3 chains is a better trick..this is an old 'touring' trick that you use a chain no1 for approx 250 or so miles
change, use no2 for 250
change use no 3 for 250
benefit of this...chains wear faster, so you keep 3 chains that wear with 1 cassette (expensive)
and get 7-10+ thousand miles from the set
3 chains 1 cassette

crank linkage bolt? (describe location) the one that holds the crank to the bottombracket (bearings at bottom of bicycle) that sucker is usually torqed to 490 lbs so yeah it comes out hard LOL

instead of hammering get a pipe and put it on the handle...it's better

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
19. Ah, this was super helpful!
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 06:15 PM
Oct 2015

I'm writing this down, thank you for all the info!

I really like that trick with the chain. I'll do that when I replace this one. I put about 200-300 miles a week on this on average, so hopefully that'll help extend the life a bit.

And yeah I think you got the right part haha. No wonder it was so tough to get out. It was nasty inside to boot, all black and broken.

w0nderer

(1,937 posts)
20. okay if your bb (bottom bracket) is broken
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 06:29 PM
Oct 2015

i'll post a link to pic here (where the axle comes out / or goes in to hold the crankset is the bb)

http://www.jimlangley.net/wrench/bicycleparts.html
if your bb is toast, don't ride....walk it to a store and have her fixed
sorry....that'll crack a frame eventually

the higher you spin (higher pedals per minute 80-100 or so as opposed to 50-80) the less wear you put on it
also gaining approx 20-25% power/endurance due to working right in the 'powerband' of humans

have you checked your hometown for bicycle co-op/college co-ops

frequently they will lend you tools, coffee and sometimes a helping hand

for online
http://parktool.com/blog/repair-help/
i'll post some more later if you want

but feel free to ask (i ride a trek cromo 1998..orig she was $500 new, i got her for free, and since i worked in a bikestore at the time, she's now $1500 (parts and bearings) and yes..that's worth it..due to durability



w0nderer

(1,937 posts)
24. point of this group....we help eachother
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 10:04 PM
Oct 2015

if you need help or have questions feel free to hit me back or pm me

marym625

(17,997 posts)
2. I've made a choice
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 02:01 AM
Oct 2015

To work a job that doesn't pay anywhere near the 6 figures I used to make. But I'm much happier. Corporate America sucks sweaty donkey balls. I want to stay as far away from it as I can.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
4. I'm with you there!
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 02:11 AM
Oct 2015

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]I'm fortunate enough to have part-time work from home, but it's for a large corporation that systematically bought out a lot of smaller competing companies. Every few months (that seem like weeks), they come out with new rules to complicate things - just a lot of make-work, imho.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
6. Yup.
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 02:25 AM
Oct 2015

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]But, hey... it's a job. And I get to work at home.

No car, no commute, no wardrobe, and no office politics.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
9. In 1962 my mother moved from upstate NY
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 05:31 AM
Oct 2015

to Tucson, AZ. There were five kids still at home, The oldest was off in the army.

Mom was a nurse, meaning she could get a job anywhere, but it didn't mean the job would pay very well.

She moved us from northern NY to AZ mainly because of an abusive alcoholic husband/father. As tough as it was -- and there were many times we went hungry -- it was the best thing she could have done for us. I got desperately needed dental care through a Catholic charity clinic. At one point, in 1964, I had a Saturday babysitting job that paid three dollars for a nine hour day. And I usually spent the money on groceries for my family.

Being working poor is not the end of the world. It really isn't.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
10. Well, this is fishy. I just now read - kinda deja vu, really - that Bernie's supporters
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 05:39 AM
Oct 2015

are all wealthy old white men.

w0nderer

(1,937 posts)
15. Had to read the thread (then looked up some of your historic posts)
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 04:33 PM
Oct 2015

your sarcasm is subtle yet detectable in the history of posts

*bows* eggzelent!


oh hi and welcome
(may want to use sarcasm hint...some people don't check)

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
22. Haven't had time to read it all today.
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 09:08 PM
Oct 2015

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]All I can think of, though, is that a lot of the smarter wealthy white males might actually see the writing on the wall.

The smart ones will have recognized that "tinkle down" has not worked and will never work, and like Nick Hanauer warned, "the pitchforks are coming" if regular people don't see some major changes to their benefit.

Maybe tomorrow will be a quieter day and I'll get a chance to study the charts and the thread. Last night was my night off, but I have to get to the 2nd job now.

ladyVet

(1,587 posts)
25. I'm old (to some) and white (more or less).
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 02:56 AM
Oct 2015

Definitely not wealthy or a man. And I love Bernie. Yes, I do.

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