End of Life Issues
Related: About this forumThree months later, and it all caves in on me.
There aren't any support groups yet for people who have helped their soulmate die.
I used to fly gliders. The one thing I dreaded most was a low level stall-spin. The internal dialogue would go like this:
"God damn it. Fuck. Shit. Center the stick! Apply full rudder against the direction of the spin. Hold it hold it hold it hold it in until the rotation stops. GENTLY ease back the stick to pull out of the dive. Not so hard! You'll rip the fucking wings off. Oh god dear god please let me have enough altitude to pull out. Shit that ground looks close. Shitshitshitshit I sure wish I'd worn a fucking parachute."
Welcome to my evening.
RainCaster
(11,545 posts)sinkingfeeling
(52,993 posts)much you have lost. I wish we could have a conversation about the trauma you went through and I could tell you about mine, 8 months after my sister ended her life.
Do you have a pastor or close friend to talk with, asks the non-believer. Please take care of yourself.
I said good-bye to DU last week, but couldn't bypass your post.
The_jackalope
(1,660 posts)I'm a non-believer in that way too. When I met Kathy, I let all my real-life friends go so there would be enough room for her. So like in my gliding days, I'm alone in the cockpit. I have a good therapist, but she seems to pop me into my left brain where all the words live. This is a great huge lump of inchoate right-brain stuff.
I'm so, so sorry about your sister. I lost mine thirty years ago to throat cancer. Apparently the grief never goes away.
Thanks for your kindness.
MLAA
(18,602 posts)Or is it too hard to even concentrate? You certainly wrote a compelling post, would writing your memories and thoughts maybe help? I think you may have a talent for writing and it could help others who have or will face the courageous path you have trod.
The_jackalope
(1,660 posts)Words helped before she died, or afterward when I was still in shock. They helped keep things in order. But there is no order in this place.
Thanks for speaking up.
Eko
(8,492 posts)It should hurt, something that important should hurt. There are not many times in your life you will feel what you are feeling. Its something so human and so important, so rare and so special. It is a huge part of what you are, of what we all are. It makes us human as human can be. Accept and embrace it, but remember that as much as it seems like everything, and as much as you want it to always be everything, one day it wont. It will turn into another part of you and make you stronger and wiser, kinder and more human. Its a long road, and all the rest stops are closed so you just have to keep going, but you will know when you get there. Hope this helped just a little.
Eko.
The_jackalope
(1,660 posts)I was arrogant enough to think that my facility with words gave me a handle on it.
Heh.
Yes, it helped. Thank you.
Eko
(8,492 posts)This always resonated with me, I can rarely watch it without crying but it is always a good cry.
The_jackalope
(1,660 posts)Eko
(8,492 posts)brer cat
(26,275 posts)but I often read threads. You do have a wonderful facility with words, and you have had posts that are very insightful and helpful. I have nothing to offer you that would help you on this incredibly painful journey, but I do want you to know that you have touched the soul of a stranger by sharing some of your experience. Thank you.
The_jackalope
(1,660 posts)shenmue
(38,537 posts)True Dough
(20,275 posts)there is a DU member named GliderGuider whose wife is/was dying. He hasn't posted since late May, however. If he resurfaces at some point, perhaps the two of you will find you have even more in common.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/~GliderGuider
All the best to you.
The_jackalope
(1,660 posts)I had to change handles because of a dispute with the moderators. That's me.
True Dough
(20,275 posts)especially within our DU community.
Didn't realize that you'd changed handles here.
cilla4progress
(25,908 posts)After a loved one dies? Theres almost a little giddiness at first, especially if there was suffering.
I recall after my dad died relatively young (I was 43) it hit me in waves and at unforeseen, random moments. I remember one time seeing through a window what appeared to me to be a father and adult daughter meeting up, and it set me off.
Is this some of what you are experiencing?
Sending you love and concern!
The_jackalope
(1,660 posts)I was very giddy at first. Then came the waves - determined efforts to keep it all in order, followed by collapse.
It was my 67th birthday on Sunday. I spent the weekend with my very aged parents who don't have my emotional nature, followed by two days with Kathy's mother who is caving in under the weight of her own loss. Now I'm back home, alone. So I guess it's no big surprise that I'm feeling like I was hit by a truck.
cilla4progress
(25,908 posts)Pet?
The_jackalope
(1,660 posts)He's getting a lot of attention these days.
cilla4progress
(25,908 posts)The best!
Im happy that you have Buddha. What was his relationship with your lovely wife?
The_jackalope
(1,660 posts)He and I were completely bonded, but he took to her like a duckling to its mom. She was a dog whisperer - she could hear him, and he could hear her. When she arrived he was completely out of control, running my life. Within four months she had him trained and happy. He would spend hours sleeping at her feet as she made her art.
cilla4progress
(25,908 posts)Thank you for this memory!
I suppose he is grieving, too?
The_jackalope
(1,660 posts)Well done!
cilla4progress
(25,908 posts)😄👍
lunasun
(21,646 posts)but not a partner like Kathy . It can really suck. Peace
The_jackalope
(1,660 posts)central scrutinizer
(12,441 posts)There are at least two people whose loved ones used Oregon's Death with Dignity act to end their lives. Most of us were the primary care givers for our loved ones.
The_jackalope
(1,660 posts)I'm still new to the support-group landscape, I just started to crawl out of the wreckage a couple of weeks ago. The Canadian MAID program has been going for over a year now, so there will be some caregivers out there.
But I think what you were hinting at is right - it doesn't much matter how a person dies, and other ways can put a lot more stress on caregivers than an assisted death. All survivors need support of some kind.
Thanks.
spooky3
(36,207 posts)The_jackalope
(1,660 posts)spooky3
(36,207 posts)VMA131Marine
(4,648 posts)So sorry to hear what you are going through. I lost a daughter at 4 months to SIDS: you never really get over it. The pain just dulls over time. I still never know what to say to someone who has lost a person close to them because I can't imagine what anybody could have said to me that would have helped in my own loss. Rest assured though, you are not alone.
The_jackalope
(1,660 posts)I's deeply sorry for your loss too. It helps just to know I'm not alone, because grief can tell some cruel stories about that.
catrose
(5,236 posts)But they make point of providing counseling for the survivors. They would certainly have experience with this kind of grief.
Best wishes as you trudge through this vale of tears.
The_jackalope
(1,660 posts)And yes, there is a counselor I can contact. It's amazing the extent to which my brain has frozen up over this!
catrose
(5,236 posts)Brain freezing is part of grief, depression, sorrow, the part that tells you there's nothing you can do; it's always going to be awful. Good luck!
TygrBright
(20,987 posts)Your writing about this has been enormously helpful and inspiring to me, and I bet to others.
Of course it hurts like hell.
You lost part of yourself.
I look at some of her artwork now and then and I'm awed by the beauty she saw and captured and shared.
The artwork is still there.
Your love is still there.
Keep going, one day at a time.
It doesn't "get better" but it gets different. The pain transmutes. It's part of you too, but the love and the beauty are also still there.
It's complicated.
Keep on keeping on.
We're here.
warmly,
Bright