If it came down to Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump, who would you vote for?

[Uncle Joe]

65 votes, 9 passes | Time left: Unlimited
	Bernie Sanders
	64 (98%)
	Donald Trump
	1 (2%)
	9 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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[brooklynite]

1. What a meaningless survey...

Point to anyone here who wouldn't support the Democratic nominee.

[Celerity]

4. +100000

[bottomofthehill]

3. Easy, Berine

He is about 5th of my choices in the primary but will easily vote for him in the general

[H2O Man]

5. Recommended.

Thank you for asking what -- considering the sum-total of other OP/threads here -- is an important question.

[hlthe2b]

10. That shocks me coming from you, H2OMan.

[H2O Man]

15. During this primary season,

I have opted not to pick a candidate to support. In large part, that is due to my own misbehavior in 2016. Not as an excuse, but as a reason, I was at the time quitting the "pain killers" (opiods) that I had been on for 13 years. I remember telling my youngest daughter that I'd likely be unpleasant for three days -- thinking that would be the path that going "cold turkey" would take. She responded, "Old Man, you've been miserable your whole life." Perhaps she was correct. Either way, it was a terrible time for me, and I lashed out at people for no reason.

Anyhow. I rarely post in this forum, but when I have, I've noted that I will support whoever the party nominates. I like all of our candidates, and will work as hard as these old bones allow for our nominee. I do not participate in many discussions here, and from this vantage point, I view many of them as toxic. I do not like the attacks on any of the candidates. Nothing good can come from them.

[NeoGreen]

18. This ...

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[Bonobo]

40. You speak for me as well.

I read here, and have continued to do so, as a way of monitoring a certain type of temperature among a very small and specific type of Democrat (as typified by what remained here at DU after the last blowout).

I no longer think it has much relevance other than as a window into a kind of unique culture that exists here.

Anyway I stay away too. Toxicity and personal attacks of the kind found on Twitter abound here. So I just watch from afar.

[wyldwolf]

64. I like your daughter already. Reminds me of mine.

[H2O Man]

92. She is a character!

I remember the first time my normal brother met him, on one of his infrequent visits from the west coast. He was talking to her about her favorite musician, Neil Young. When they finished, he said, "I never met a 6 year old who has mastered sarcasm before." The next year, Rubin Carter introduced her to a university audience for her "spirit."

[Duppers]

65. 👍 👍...👏

"...noted that I will support whoever the party nominates. I like all of our candidates, and will work as hard as these old bones allow for our nominee. I do not participate in many discussions here, and from this vantage point, I view many of them as toxic. I do not like the attacks on any of the candidates. Nothing good can come from them."

Thank YOU. 🙏
I concur.

[Atticus]

6. This is, perhaps, the most insulting question ever posed here. I am just basically speechless. nt

[George II]

8. Thanks. I all but said the same below, it is indeed an insult to see this on DU.

[PatSeg]

11. A truly pointless survey

[George II]

7. What's the point of this OP, do you REALLY think someone on DU would say trump? Are you trying...

...to trap or bait members of DU?

[hlthe2b]

9. Oh, come on... What is the point of this ridiculous survey given no one would be here if they

supported Trump over Bernie except for a very stupid troll or bot--and they won't be here long if they post they'd vote for Trump.


So, what is the point?

[BusyBeingBest]

12. Wow, really cheeses people off when someone interrupts their

anti-Bernie grudge-fest. Yikes. Edit to add: thanks for the thread, Uncle Joe.

[Atticus]

17. You've been here---what?---5 days and you feel that this type of post is helping unify the

party? Look up "presumptuous", ok?

[David__77]

54. Welcome.

...

[Shell_Seas]

13. Bernie is my absolute last choice; but if it's between him and Trump...that's easy

Blue no matter who.

[Rorey]

77. OR - Not red, I'd rather be dead

Figuratively speaking

I'll be voting as blue as I possibly can, as always.

[BlueIdaho]

14. Vote for him - Yes

Work for him - no.

[LanternWaste]

16. I'd vote for the guy throwing out irrelevant hypotheticals

in a petulant game of "he-did-it-too!!!"

So is that a vote for idiot trump or the sacred cow?

[rzemanfl]

19. Bookmarking. n/t

[mcar]

20. This is ridiculous

[Gothmog]

21. I will support the nominee of the party

However, I know that sanders would lose to trump

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[SMC22307]

37. "Reform" Social Security Third Way Kessler? LOL Fuck him.

When voters catch wind of Fat Nixon's proposed 2021 budget, voters may flock to Sanders. We'll see.

[Tiggeroshii]

38. You do realize that 1972 and 2020 are two completely different years

and Mcgovern and Bernie are two completely different people? Or do you just know this due to some level of clarevoyance? Do you have this week's winning lotto numbers too?

[Gothmog]

44. Yes, sanders is an even weaker candidate compared to McGOVERN

MCGovern actually had some legislative accomplishments and was far more qualified compared to a weak candidate like sanders. Trump wants to run against a weak socialist like sanders.

[Tiggeroshii]

46. Weak candidates lose elections and end up in 4th place

Strong candidates win elections. I dont know about you, but I base a strong and weak candidate off their ability to win and track record of doing so. A strong candidate can run for president for the first time and win 22 primaries and caucuses. A weak candidate will run for president a third time after having one of the most prominent platforms possible, and still manage to come in 4th. Loyalty tests are not a legitimate basis for a candidate's viability.

[Gothmog]

48. It is so cute that you think that sanders will be the nominee

Real Democrats have good memories and do not forgive or forget

Link to tweet

[Tiggeroshii]

49. Loyalty tests are not going to win you squat anywhere

And if you care about beating Trump, regardless of our nominee, it would be wise to remove the massive chip on your shoulder and guide yourself not by resentment and animosity, but by what you genuinely believe is best for your country.

[Gothmog]

57. Meanwhile in the real world

Link to tweet

[Tiggeroshii]

68. Meanwhile Biden still cannot win an election

Despite coming from a high profile position and the most popular administration in recent history.

[ehrnst]

62. Apparently they get you an endorsement from Sanders...

See also: Cenk.

[Tiggeroshii]

69. Mentioning Cenk is kinda making my point for me

[ehrnst]

70. About how Sanders prized personal loyalty tests above the good counsel

of those who advised him to stay out of that congressional race?

That point?

[Tiggeroshii]

72. No. Remember how I said loyalty tests get you nowhere?

Cenk is still a second rate youtube personality and that isn't likely to change. Just sayin.

[ehrnst]

73. And I said that Cenk passed a loyalty test, and Bernie rewarded him with an

endorsement for congress - saying that he was a "voice that the people needed."

What part of that was wrong?

[Tiggeroshii]

75. The part where he got anywhere from it?

[ehrnst]

78. Keep trying to move the goalposts...

You said "Loyalty tests are not going to win you squat anywhere."

I pointed that passing a loyalty test WON Cenk an endorsement and praise from Sanders for his campaign, even though it was bad for Sanders' campaign to do so.


Is that clearer?

[Tiggeroshii]

79. Hard to say he won anything, considering it was retracted the same day

Something minus that same something equals squat. Cenk got squat for passing his loyalty test.

[ehrnst]

82. That's like saying that performance enhancing drugs don't get you squat

because one guy who won the Tour de France using PEDs got his jersey taken back.

If, like Performance Enhancing Drugs, loyalty tests "don't win you squat" why do people keep on using them? And keep winning because of them?

[Tiggeroshii]

83. Cenk was a second rate youtube personality before the endorsement

not a tour de france contestant. Good grief.

[ehrnst]

90. Which is making my point... Bernie bestowed "progressive cred"

on this loser, because of LOYALTY TESTS, then when it looked bad for Bernie, Cenk said that he was "rejecting ALL endorsements" to give Sanders cover...



Also, look up metaphor, if you are unclear on what that means...

[awesomerwb1]

84. Please remind us who won primary in 2016?

"Loyalty tests are not a legitimate basis for a candidate's viability"..........you just killed irony.

[Tiggeroshii]

85. Hillary Rodham Clinton

Now remind me who is on his third attempt running for president after failing twice -not making it to a single caucus or primary, has a high profile platform to jump off from and was 2nd in charge in the most popular presidential administration in recent history?

[awesomerwb1]

86. "Weak candidates lose elections"

So by your own metric, BS is a weak candidate.

It's two primaries so far. Do you see any candidates' name on my posts? Now remind me why russiapublicans are desperate for BS to win the nomination? It's the opposite of wanting to lose.

It's Bernie's last hurrah. If he doesn't win, the "revolution" will not even amount to a little guerrilla war. What a career!

[Tiggeroshii]

88. I'm done reminding you of anything except for that Bernie's going to win, and you are likely going

to be thoroughly disappointed.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primary-forecast/

[awesomerwb1]

89. I -am- going to be thoroughly disappointed...lol

Absolutely. I'll even be more disappointed after the drubbing he will get from trump which will be devastating to not just the country but the entire planet.

But hey, "revolution!!".

[Tiggeroshii]

91. Way to wave the white flag before the battle even starts.

[awesomerwb1]

95. Awww sorry

I'm just not in a "revolutionary" mood.

No major achievements in 40 years, attacks on millionaire/billionaire class he is now a part of, wait sorry, he conveniently only attacks billionaires now and the most horrible and despicable Bernie approved anti_Democratic party surrogates one could ask for. Yeah, major turn off.

Under normal circumstances, I could never in good faith vote for BS. Ever.

But since it's trump...nose clip and copious amounts of alcohol will be needed in November.

[Tiggeroshii]

98. Or a "let's keep this massive piece of shit from winning a second term" mode?

It isn't all about the candidates -it's about the people too.

[awesomerwb1]

104. Oh, you don't want to remind me of the people

Nina Turner (seriously? seriously?), Brianna Joy, Sirota(seriously?), Tlaib....

And then speaking of people. The aggressive, disrespectful and downright scary considerable amount of Bernie or bust bros.

Sorry man. A candidate who hires those people and can't (doesn't try to?) control the more recalcitrant part of his base is a major turn off for a lot of people. Let's see what happens in other states. As a speaker, even though I know he can't pay for half of the stuff he promises, I like Bernie. But I don't trust him and I think he'll get absolutely destroyed in November should he be the nominee. Later.

[ehrnst]

94. I know, right?

[Chemisse]

22. Why do people post these threads?

Is there really anybody on this board who would vote for Trump over ANY Dem?

You know the answer to that, so why post this?

[UniteFightBack]

45. +1000

[mwooldri]

63. Maybe to out the DUers who wouldn't go Bernie or Orange.

At the time of writing there are 123 for Bernie, 0 for the Marmalade Shartcannon, and 11 "pass".

Come the time we have a presumptive nominee (and then an actual nominee) we will have people on DU who will not support that nominee. They may disrupt, they may fade away. PUMAs (Party Unity My A**) IMO don't belong here, especially since we got an actual crazy dude in the White House who needs to be served an eviction notice.

[Chemisse]

93. I doubt anybody who would vote for Trump would ever admit it on a DU thread.

People who 'passed' may simply have been annoyed with the question.

[Polybius]

24. You should have included two more options: 3: Stay Home, 4: Third Party

I'm sure some idiots might pick one of those two options, but no one is gonna pick Trump.

If it's Bernie, we must all Feel the Bern and vote for him this November!

[PDittie]

25. ...

"2 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided."

[Uncle Joe]

29. That's just the official number,

that actual number of people logging on this thread and not voting is no doubt much greater.

[Tiggeroshii]

31. Around 525 or so?

[Uncle Joe]

34. A fair amount like us would be repeat viewers so

I don't believe the numbers are that high but I believe 50-200 range to be a relatively conservative estimate.

[Tiggeroshii]

36. That is still disoncertingly large amount...

[TwilightZone]

39. Probably because it's a pointless poll.

The ToS forbids anyone from expressing support of the GOP or third parties, as you well know.

The poll is meaningless.

[Uncle Joe]

81. You think? n/t

[UniteFightBack]

47. Maybe some people think it's silly so they took a pass. nt

[moriah]

52. Probably because they don't like polls that are bait/pointless.

If anyone chose Trump, it'd be grounds for their suspension from the site.

And we're not *yet* at the "Rally Around the Nominee" time here, so people are allowed to express reasonable concerns about candidates/be in the "I want my candidate" mode that is driving them in canvassing. They don't HAVE to say they will support someone yet.

If this post had been about Bloomberg, TBH I might have hit the "refuse to answer one way or the other" because I still haven't wrapped my brain around us replacing a "Democrat" turned Republican billionaire with a Republican-turned Democratic billionaire who thinks cannabis is more addictive than other legal substances.

There will come a time on DU when such a "loyalty test" will not be necessary with any poll, because anything negative about the nominee will be against site rules. It's not necessary now, particularly with any candidate named.

And before that time comes, people will be given a mourning period to wrap their brains around the fact that our process, for better or worse, gave us this nominee and now we had better be ready to defend them against the barrage of attacks that will come, WHOEVER is chosen.

[jimfields33]

59. I'd refuse to answer the Bloomberg situation to at the moment

I’m still stunned that he’s even spoken highly on a liberal board.

[still_one]

26. What a dumb question.

[Pantagruel]

27. Forget Bernie

I'd elect a bag of rocks over Trump.

[RandySF]

28. Bernie, then pray.

[Tiggeroshii]

30. Oh boy!

[stonecutter357]

32. lol fail !

[SMC22307]

33. Based on the vitriol directed at Sanders in so many threads...

I absolutely understand why you posted this.

[TwilightZone]

41. People see what they want to see.

Personally, I've seen vitriol directed at nearly all of the candidates. Usually, it's whoever the front-runner is at the time.

Biden has been a primary target on DU since he entered the race.

When Warren briefly was ahead, she was the target, particularly that of Sanders supporters who saw her as a threat. When she later confronted Sanders on his debate claims, the attacks were immediate and rather vehement.

Since Buttigieg won Iowa, he's been the picture on the dartboard.

Sanders doesn't have a corner on the market where vitriol is concerned. There's plenty of it to go around.

[SMC22307]

42. Agree that there's plenty to go around...

but I still don't see it rising to the level of that against Sanders.

[ehrnst]

99. +1000.

[ecstatic]

35. Of course, Sanders, but

I really want the next 4 to 8 years to be peaceful and free of drama and chaos.

[SMC22307]

43. Seriously, No Drama Obama-style. (n/t)

[Gravitycollapse]

51. Regardless of who wins, the next 8 years will not be peaceful.

[comradebillyboy]

50. I would never ever vote for Trump.

[58Sunliner]

53. Pathetic.

[TDale313]

55. I mean, honestly? Anyone... literally anyone... but Trump

I like Bernie. This would be an easy choice. But I would have said not Trump to anyone you’d asked this about.

[stopdiggin]

56. asked, and answered .. about a 100 times already (nt)

[MyNameGoesHere]

58. That's a really hard choice

When there wouldn't be a Democrat on the ticket. Is there a third choice of staying home and cleaning lint from my navel?

[gollygee]

60. I will vote straight party Dem no matter what

But I live in an area with a lot of swing voters and I feel certain Bernie won't win the GE

[NYMinute]

61. Many people can't answer this truthfully

[Duppers]

66. 😁😁

Wink wink. I understand your point.

And remember, there's only 1 reason I've chosen Biden.

[Zolorp]

67. Won't answer insulting poll

[Happy Hoosier]

71. ...

[Johnny2X2X]

74. Bernie all the way!

No my first choice, but he'd be a great President.

My Facebook Bernie fans are pushing memes really hard that are a pledge not to vote for anyone but Bernie in November. It's really sad.

[polmaven]

76. I would vote for the Rump

if the question was if he should be sentenced to life in prison. That is to say I would vote "yes, he should".

[Gothmog]

80. I will support the nminee of the party

However most Americans would not vote for a socialist

Link to tweet

[doc03]

87. I am not sure if I would vote for president. I would vote

in the down ballot for Democrats. The most important thing his holding the House and getting control of the Senate.

[el_bryanto]

96. If it came down to Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders I'd vote for Bernie Sanders -

There's several I'd vote for sanders over - although my preferred candidate Warren.

[Jedi Guy]

97. I'd vote for Trump...

...to be the guy picking up dogshit without gloves, and no bucket to put it in, so he has to use his pockets. I'd vote for him to be air-dropped onto a deserted island. I'd vote for him to be launched into space on a one-way rocket. I'd vote for him to wear striped pajamas and have a lifetime home in the Greybar Hotel. I'd vote for him to be shaved, tarred, feathered, and run out of DC on a rail. There are loads of things I can think of where I'd vote for Trump; these are just the few that came to me in a few moments.

But vote for him for President? Fuck no. I'd vote for Bernie over Trump any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

[Vivienne235729]

100. I will vote for ANYONE running against Trump. ANYONE.

.

[aeromanKC]

101. Bernie is just above Tulsi and Jill Stein for me

[33taw]

102. I'll vote for Bernie, but I am hard pressed not to say "he'll have to earn my vote"

Just like he said to Hillary supporters.

[Laelth]

103. More troll bait? n/t

-Laelth

[ElementaryPenguin]

105. No brainer.

I'd even vote for Mike Pence or Ivanka Trump over Donald Trump Sr.

[Doreen]

106. What are the sayings?

" In a New York second"
" Without a second thought"
Any other saying meaning without delay..

[MineralMan]

107. Not many takers on your unsubtle push poll, were there?

Of what use is such a poll on DU, do you suppose? Since DU's rules forbid saying you'd vote for a non-Democratic candidate, who would vote in the poll for Trump?

What was your intention here? I voted that I'd vote for Sanders. That doesn't mean that I support him in the primaries. I don't. But, I've never voted for anyone but the Democratic nominee since my first presidential election in 1968. I never will.

So, your question is a silly one on DU. Sadly one poor DUer voted incorrectly. I hope he doesn't get kicked off the site due to your poll.

I'm sure you can do better than that...sort of...

[greenjar_01]

108. I would do the following

1) Purchase industrial strength gas mask
2) Put on Hazmat suit
3) Travel to the small island of Tureameau, where the local inhabitants are known for their long practice of learning to hold their breaths for upwards of 30-40 minutes
4) Study with the greatest master breath holders of Tureameau for as long as I can
5) Purchase nose plugs
6) Get plastic surgery to reduce the size of my nostrils
7) Invent an expanding foam that would assure a tight seal of nostril + nose plug
8) Insert nose plug, spray nostril sealing foam, put on gas mask, don hazmat suit, travel to polling place
9) Begin Tureameauian Breath Holding Ritual
10) Vote for Bernard Sanders for President