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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 02:55 PM Mar 2020

Nothing wrong with Sanders staying in another few weeks

or even until the end of the primaries. Clinton did that in 08. He should get out as soon as the primaries are over and not wait until the convention as he did in 16. That is all!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Nothing wrong with Sanders staying in another few weeks (Original Post) Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 OP
Clinton and Obama were less than 1% point apart. showblue22 Mar 2020 #1
Clinton was still in race. Both primaries, Sanders is no longer viable and uses it to beat up LizBeth Mar 2020 #2
It was entirely different in 2008, and Clinton was winning primaries right through to the end.... George II Mar 2020 #3
The longer he remains in the race, the harder it will be for his supporters to give up. PubliusEnigma Mar 2020 #4
Nothing technically wrong with it, but it's not going to help beat trump. Hoyt Mar 2020 #5
Tulsi Gabbard is still in the race for some reason IronLionZion Mar 2020 #6
I know. I am a lot more annoyed by her presence than by Bernie's. (eom) StevieM Mar 2020 #12
We all know why Gabbard is still in the race ripcord Mar 2020 #41
She wants a career in Fox News IronLionZion Mar 2020 #42
We should go through all the primaries Turbineguy Mar 2020 #7
The next couple of primaries will be big wins for Biden which would hurt sanders and help Joe Gothmog Mar 2020 #8
Whatever helps you sleep at night. MrsCoffee Mar 2020 #9
It was a lot closer in 08. Sanders is getting slaughtered and there was no incumbent...he needs to Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #10
Biden should pivot... Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #11
I hope his heart can take it. We won't know, because he refuses to release his medical records.nt zackymilly Mar 2020 #13
How do you demand concessions when you're getting the brake beat off of you? Gothmog Mar 2020 #14
There will be a lot of Bernie delegates at the convention. aikoaiko Mar 2020 #17
There are a lot less of then this time. showblue22 Mar 2020 #19
The main concession was proportional rep on the platform committee. aikoaiko Mar 2020 #21
No more catering to Sanders, he lost. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #25
They can be dragged out of the convention if they are disruptive and go to hell. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #27
lol aikoaiko Mar 2020 #28
Rioting and attacking those who beat you fair and square is not Democracy...arrest them and toss Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #34
Who said anything about rioting it attacking? aikoaiko Mar 2020 #40
Little babies can suck their thumbs and see what that gets them. PubliusEnigma Mar 2020 #30
No. To hell with vanity and pride. MyNameGoesHere Mar 2020 #15
+1,000,000 oasis Mar 2020 #16
I really want to see the debate mvd Mar 2020 #18
He will be destroyed on Tuesday...he should immediately concede. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #24
Well Biden may have something meaningful to say anyway. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #35
Says anyone interested in burning the party to the ground..... MrsCoffee Mar 2020 #20
There's nothing wrong with him getting out, either. HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #22
Clinton had a shot...Sanders does not ...08 was much closer that 16 or 20...time for Sanders Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #23
There's a desperation to hand it to Joe - as if he's going to... polichick Mar 2020 #26
See that is the difference between Sanders supporters and Biden supporters...it is not about Joe Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #37
The Problem For Bernie is He is Getting His A$$ Kicked by Wide Margins Since Folks Starting Voting Indykatie Mar 2020 #29
Sanders is wasting his supporters' time and money. PubliusEnigma Mar 2020 #31
If he wants to keep playing president, that's fine, but no one has to pretend he is a real candidate tritsofme Mar 2020 #32
Ugh. Meanwhile BS is running misleading ads in primary states 24/7 that will cost us votes Squinch Mar 2020 #33
Every day that passes - Sanders loses more political clout. BlueIdaho Mar 2020 #36
His deceptive NAFTA ad didn't help much in Michigan. ucrdem Mar 2020 #38
Yes, there is Generic Brad Mar 2020 #39
Yep. The more chances for the average American to see Biden as not a Socialist. GulfCoast66 Mar 2020 #43
 

showblue22

(1,026 posts)
1. Clinton and Obama were less than 1% point apart.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 02:57 PM
Mar 2020

I'm OK with it too. It will only hurt his movement. The rest of the states are even harder for him. It would be the biggest defeat in history and he will have no bargaining power.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LizBeth

(10,803 posts)
2. Clinton was still in race. Both primaries, Sanders is no longer viable and uses it to beat up
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 02:59 PM
Mar 2020

our candidate. Yes, as we saw in the past, there is a problem with Sanders staying in the race, namely, Sanders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
3. It was entirely different in 2008, and Clinton was winning primaries right through to the end....
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 03:01 PM
Mar 2020

As of today, Biden's lead is bigger than at any time for either candidate in 2008.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PubliusEnigma

(1,583 posts)
4. The longer he remains in the race, the harder it will be for his supporters to give up.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 03:03 PM
Mar 2020

If he withdraws now, it will be much easier for them to eventually support Biden.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
5. Nothing technically wrong with it, but it's not going to help beat trump.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 03:10 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

IronLionZion

(46,926 posts)
6. Tulsi Gabbard is still in the race for some reason
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 03:16 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

StevieM

(10,539 posts)
12. I know. I am a lot more annoyed by her presence than by Bernie's. (eom)
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 05:41 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ripcord

(5,553 posts)
41. We all know why Gabbard is still in the race
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 09:06 PM
Mar 2020

She is gambling, Corona virus and both her opponents are over 70.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

IronLionZion

(46,926 posts)
42. She wants a career in Fox News
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 09:08 PM
Mar 2020

She's their favorite Democrat. She's so unpopular otherwise that she had to drop out of her Congressional reelection since she was going to lose the primary.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Turbineguy

(38,333 posts)
7. We should go through all the primaries
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 03:40 PM
Mar 2020

I listened to Carville last night and I think he's wrong. Cancelling further primaries disrespects those voters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(154,120 posts)
8. The next couple of primaries will be big wins for Biden which would hurt sanders and help Joe
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 05:00 PM
Mar 2020

sanders not dropping out may help Biden. sanders keeps on losing primaries by large margins nnly strenghten's Joe's position https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/11/no-surprise-bernie-sanders-is-still-all-about-himself-never-party/

Sanders’s remaining in the race should serve several salutary purposes for the party and the country. First, seeing him lose overwhelmingly week after week will dispel the notion that the Democratic Party has moved left, or that he is in a dominant position to negotiate with the overwhelming winner. It’s not clear why the Biden camp should “give” Sanders anything.

Second, it is good to keep Biden in fighting form, continuing to boost turnout and showing, as he did in Philadelphia, how presidential he is. Biden can pivot to the general election, essentially ignoring Sanders. (His planned speech on the coronavirus is the perfect opportunity to leave Sanders out of the discussion entirely.)....

Whoever is to replace Sanders as the standard-bearer for the left — hopefully someone as smart and wonky as Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) — will need to learn how to win elections. (Hint: It is not by scaring voters or attaching oneself to the socialist label.) When in office, a new generation of leaders on the left will need to learn the art of deal-making rather than waste years, as Sanders has, rabble-rousing but accomplishing nothing. Unlike Sanders, Warren (or whoever else takes the reins) will not be burdened by a record of reflexively praising dictators nor be driven to attack fellow Democrats.

Sanders will end the race at some point, a diminished figure. In retrospect, his wins in 2016 will be seen more as an anti-Hillary Clinton vote than a pro-Sanders vote. How he behaves at Sunday’s debate will determine whether he leaves a bad taste in the mouths of Democrats.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MrsCoffee

(5,822 posts)
9. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 05:01 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(70,983 posts)
10. It was a lot closer in 08. Sanders is getting slaughtered and there was no incumbent...he needs to
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 05:10 PM
Mar 2020

go...I guess we will see if he gets out for the good of the country so we can defeat Trump or another election is spoiled and Trump get four more years.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Happy Hoosier

(8,336 posts)
11. Biden should pivot...
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 05:16 PM
Mar 2020

... to the GE. Use primary event to be President Biden. It looks good on him, and people will feel their confidence grow. Biden should seize this moment. He should host an expert round table to discuss the issue. Hell, invite Bernie!

Bernie can do what he wants.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

zackymilly

(2,375 posts)
13. I hope his heart can take it. We won't know, because he refuses to release his medical records.nt
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 05:43 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(154,120 posts)
14. How do you demand concessions when you're getting the brake beat off of you?
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 11:28 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

aikoaiko

(34,201 posts)
17. There will be a lot of Bernie delegates at the convention.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 06:39 AM
Mar 2020


They can be more or less disruptive.

Look how people freaked out from a little booing or protesting at the 2016 convention.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

showblue22

(1,026 posts)
19. There are a lot less of then this time.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 07:37 AM
Mar 2020

Hillary made massive concessions and they still were disruptive. Not this time. This time Biden needs to cater to reliable voters like never Trumpers and suburban moms

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

aikoaiko

(34,201 posts)
21. The main concession was proportional rep on the platform committee.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 07:47 AM
Mar 2020

-and then those folks worked out the details.


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Demsrule86

(70,983 posts)
25. No more catering to Sanders, he lost.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 10:26 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(70,983 posts)
27. They can be dragged out of the convention if they are disruptive and go to hell.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 10:29 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

aikoaiko

(34,201 posts)
28. lol
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 10:30 AM
Mar 2020


...because democracy.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Demsrule86

(70,983 posts)
34. Rioting and attacking those who beat you fair and square is not Democracy...arrest them and toss
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:30 PM
Mar 2020

them out...let them find someone else to bother with their nonsense.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

aikoaiko

(34,201 posts)
40. Who said anything about rioting it attacking?
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 03:53 PM
Mar 2020


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

PubliusEnigma

(1,583 posts)
30. Little babies can suck their thumbs and see what that gets them.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 10:46 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
15. No. To hell with vanity and pride.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:52 AM
Mar 2020

This is serious stuff and the adults are playing now. I don't see any benefit into putting time and effort into a group of folks that may or may not vote period. That's a waste of time and money. The Independent Senator from Vermonts twice failed attempt at a half baked revolution is over.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mvd

(65,432 posts)
18. I really want to see the debate
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 07:32 AM
Mar 2020

A meaningful exchange of ideas could be beneficial. But if after a couple weeks nothing has changed, I think Sanders should drop out, as much as it hurts. This time his ideas may be more respected if he doesn’t drag it out. Anything that helps those ideas is good.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(70,983 posts)
24. He will be destroyed on Tuesday...he should immediately concede.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 10:21 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(70,983 posts)
35. Well Biden may have something meaningful to say anyway.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:33 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MrsCoffee

(5,822 posts)
20. Says anyone interested in burning the party to the ground.....
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 07:40 AM
Mar 2020

I know Putin and his puppet are cackling with glee.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

HarlanPepper

(2,042 posts)
22. There's nothing wrong with him getting out, either.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 09:40 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(70,983 posts)
23. Clinton had a shot...Sanders does not ...08 was much closer that 16 or 20...time for Sanders
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 10:20 AM
Mar 2020

to go. We only waste money on a primary that is over; Having our nominee attacked on the right and the left could cost us the general. If Sanders cares about the progressive cause or this country, he will concede.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

polichick

(37,561 posts)
26. There's a desperation to hand it to Joe - as if he's going to...
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 10:28 AM
Mar 2020

blow it on his own.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Demsrule86

(70,983 posts)
37. See that is the difference between Sanders supporters and Biden supporters...it is not about Joe
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:45 PM
Mar 2020

blowing it. We fear that Sanders will reelect Trump by dragging out the primary. Sanders could help Trump get four more years with his attacks on the Party and Joe...and we have seen this movie before. As I have said before Sanders did the minimum to help Hillary in the General. Trump became president. And we fear he could be reelected.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Indykatie

(3,853 posts)
29. The Problem For Bernie is He is Getting His A$$ Kicked by Wide Margins Since Folks Starting Voting
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 10:38 AM
Mar 2020

IMO There is plenty wrong with him staying in past Florida, another state that he likely to lose by 40+ points. His only winning demographics appears to be Hispanics and 18-24 year olds who aren't voting in large numbers. That's not enough for him to even have a respectful showing. Does he even realize he's harming his movement staying in an losing by such wide margins in every area of the country.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PubliusEnigma

(1,583 posts)
31. Sanders is wasting his supporters' time and money.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 10:47 AM
Mar 2020

For an ego trip.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

tritsofme

(18,349 posts)
32. If he wants to keep playing president, that's fine, but no one has to pretend he is a real candidate
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 10:50 AM
Mar 2020

or humor him in any way. But if he really wants to live out his fantasies, and burn the dollars of his supporters, who are we to stop him?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Squinch

(52,570 posts)
33. Ugh. Meanwhile BS is running misleading ads in primary states 24/7 that will cost us votes
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:11 AM
Mar 2020

in the general. All for no reason other than to assuage his ego.

And you are about the twentieth person to post this same nonsense.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
36. Every day that passes - Sanders loses more political clout.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:39 PM
Mar 2020

His days of demanding concessions are over.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ucrdem

(15,703 posts)
38. His deceptive NAFTA ad didn't help much in Michigan.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:49 PM
Mar 2020

He really should have taken the opportunity to go out gracefully instead of hanging around and annoying everyone.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Generic Brad

(14,374 posts)
39. Yes, there is
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 02:27 PM
Mar 2020

We're in a pandemic. Inviting people to spread the virus by congregating at the polls will kill off many Democrats. If Bernie gave two shits about the greater good he would bow out and save more lives than his health care plan ever would.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
43. Yep. The more chances for the average American to see Biden as not a Socialist.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 10:12 PM
Mar 2020

The better off we are. Smashes the repuke talking point

Because most democrats are social democrats. As are most Americans whether they know it or not.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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