All 50 States. Go Until June. Let Every Vote Count.

[qwlauren35]

I don't know why people want Bernie to drop out. In my opinion, if he has the money, he should stay in.

A presidential primary helps the other races. Helps get out the vote. Helps get people thinking about Senator Races, Congressional Races, Mayoral races, Governor races.

Everyone remembers 2016. I remember 2008 and the 50 state strategy. Every state should have a chance to weigh in on who should be our nominee. And every down-race candidate should have a decent amount of voters making decisions about their viability.

In a state that Bernie might win or might show well in, other progressive candidates may also be voted for. Affects the entire state, affects, Congress, the Senate.

NO!!!!! Bernie should not drop out. Let him continue to pull some states to the left. Let him continue to empower progressive down-race candidates.

People are not looking at the big picture.

If Bernie does the right thing at the Convention, and campaigns actively for Biden in the Fall, then having him in the race until June is a very, very good thing.

PS. My state doesn't vote until April.

[TwilightZone]

1. "I don't know why people want Bernie to drop out."

Simple, because the race is over. It's not any more complicated than that. Staying in the race is a waste of resources and a waste of time for everyone. The resources would be better used toward getting Democrats elected at other levels of government, and the time would be better spent getting people registered, getting out the party's message, working on get-out-the-vote efforts, and preparing for November.

[TwilightZone]

9. It's wishful thinking.

Some are still under the misguided notion that Sanders staying in the race helps, well, anything. It doesn't.

It doesn't help down-ticket races because he only picks and chooses a few people to support and essentially ignores that rest.

It doesn't help "prepare" Biden for anything. Biden is clearly ready to be president at this exact moment, as clearly evidenced by his response on COVID-19.

It doesn't help other races because it takes attention and money away from them.

It's not going to "pull states to the left" because most of them have already indicated that they don't *want* to go to the left. Plus, if we take a big shift to the left, we lose in November.

[Demsrule86]

8. +10000

[Dennis Donovan]

2. (tossing to you)

[HarlanPepper]

3. No thanks.

[RandySF]

4. Do you trust Bernie not to run a slash and burn campaign until June?

[Demsrule86]

7. No I don't trust him at all.

[Demsrule86]

5. No, we have an incumbent president...the general needs to begin as soon as possible...primaries

don't matter once a nominee has been chosen...Sanders lost. He needs to concede today or at the latest after Florida...if we go until June we are going to lose the general.

[Turin_C3PO]

10. No, I'd prefer that not to happen.

My primary is June and I’d love to vote for Biden. But stretching out the primaries that long increases the chance of a Trump victory. He needs to concede next Wednesday to facilitate party unity.

[NurseJackie]

11. Because he'll use it as a platform to smear Biden and the Democratic party. It needs to end. NOW!

The Democratic party will be his main target. It's the high-level staff members who attack Biden with RW talking points and other smears that originate in Russia to the likes of Cenk Uygur, Michael Moore, Cornell West, David Sirota, Brianna Gray, Nina Turner, Matt Orfalea, Phillip Agnew... and then act all "shocked" that they're "going rogue" without his approval.

As Biden and his campaign and all other stalwart Democrats strive to show how the Democrats are BETTER than the GOP... Bernie is busy telling everyone that there's "no difference between Democrats and the GOP" and "both parties are the same". And that the Democrats "are the party of the one-percent" and that we're "corrupt".

People are not looking at the big picture.

Actually, yes I am "looking at the big picture." We're not stupid, you know. Please explain to me how these LIES do anything other than create resentment and suspicion? How does it encourage voters to support Democrats? It's nothing but negativity. Negativity generates apathy. Apathy discourages voter turnout. Low voter turnout gives Republicans a chance to steal the elections.




Joe/Kamala or Biden/Harris 2020!!
Jump on the Biden Bandwagon & abandon the revolution!!

[showblue22]

12. lying to people telling them he has a path

will only cause more hurt for those folks. It's irresponsible and dishonest.

[Scurrilous]

13. Fifty State Strategy is for the GE not primary.

In the GE you use it for President and Senate. The money spent pays off if you win because you get all electoral votes or the one Senate seat. Primaries split delegates between candidates and it's not worth the investment sometimes to go to a state you're fucked in.

[NurseJackie]

19. Exactly. Thank you. We have our nominee.

It's Biden.

Bernie needs to get busy with the business of consoling his "fans" and demonstrating any leadership skills he has by motivating them to put their hurt feelings and disappointment aside... and instead using that energy on getting rid of Donald Trump.

There's a very brief WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY that Bernie has in which to accomplish this. If he waits too long, or if he does nothing for weeks and weeks while "writing a book" or something, then his disappointed fans will curdle on their own and turn their feelings into rage and anger against Joe Biden and the Democratic party.

[Scurrilous]

22. He and Jane are both writing books and they do take copious notes while campaigning.

And the anger is growing. I had someone comment to me elsewhere that the 20's will be a happy time because the boomers will start dying off in large numbers. LOL I reminded them the boom went to '63 so fuck off we're going to be around for awhile.

I don't feel good about recent turns of events. Bernie is a....has no...and will fuck it all up again I fear.

[beastie boy]

14. Let him run for as long as he wants. For gawd's sake, Tulsie is still running!

it is Bernie's decision whether he is doing himself any favors by running. He might want to do it at his own detriment and for the sake of his downballot supporters. This is probably the last campaign of his lifetime, and for this reason alone I would indulge him. He no longer represents danger to the Democratic Party. Let him go out fighting.

[Thekaspervote]

21. no!! I don't care if it is his last campaign...he needs to get out of the way

The voters are speaking loud and clear and it isn’t for sanders

[relayerbob]

15. We need to be working together as a team

Almost everyone else is on board, and whoever is left would join at that point. If he wants to help heal the country and get us on the right track, he can start working with the team now to secure the win in November. Do so in exchange for specific items in the platform, if he needs to.

Or, second choice, get his ass handed to him again, week after week. Do more and more damage to the whole party, himself included.

The first choice is better for all concerned.

[George II]

16. Sanders isn't going to pull any states to the left, nor will he "pull" Biden.....

People like Biden's policy positions, that's why he's winning so many states overwhelmingly.

Biden has gotten an average of 38% of the vote in all the states, Sanders only 30%.

[Thekaspervote]

17. No Bernie needs to drop out!

He won’t behave at the convention anymore than he did in 16. Why should he even be there?

He’s harming his position and leaving people even more sour on him and his positions.

Amy, Pete, Beto, Bloomberg, yang, Kamala, and the others all dropped out when it was obvious there was no path. He needs to do the same

[TwilightZone]

18. Sorry, but it helps none of that.

It doesn't help down-ticket races because he only picks and chooses a few people to support and essentially ignores that rest.

It doesn't help "prepare" Biden for anything. Biden is clearly ready to be president at this exact moment, as clearly evidenced by his response on COVID-19.

It doesn't help other races because it takes attention and money away from them.

It's not going to "pull states to the left" because most of them have already indicated that they don't *want* to go to the left. Plus, if we take a big shift to the left, we lose in November.

"People are not looking at the big picture."

Well, some aren't.

[thucythucy]

20. "I remember 2008 and the 50 state strategy."

So do I.

The 50 state strategy involved putting moderates on the ballot as Democrats to compete in races a pure left/democratic socialist could never hope to win.

Candidates that Susan Sarandon and Michael Moore and yes, Senator Sanders would never in a million years choose to support.

In other words, it meant compromising pure ideology in the name of political realism (and working for the long term to swing our country in a progressive direction).

In other words, not letting the perfect be the enemy of the good.

It meant doing the best we could factoring in local circumstances and local political sensibilities, looking at "the big picture" trying to get control of the Senate, the House, local state chambers, local courts.

Which seems to me about the opposite of a continuing campaign by Senator Sanders would encourage.

[NurseJackie]

23. Fifty State Strategy is for the GE not primary.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=663308

Fifty State Strategy is for the GE not primary.

In the GE you use it for President and Senate. The money spent pays off if you win because you get all electoral votes or the one Senate seat. Primaries split delegates between candidates and it's not worth the investment sometimes to go to a state you're fucked in.