Biden readies plan to finish off Bernie

[yortsed snacilbuper]

Joe Biden has long complained about the crowded debate stage and a restrictive format that doesn’t allow enough time for candidates to speak.

Biden has thrived in the one-on-one format during vice presidential debates. His plan Sunday is to focus on his electability and how he’s in sync with the Democratic electorate after winning 15 states, according to aides.

In the face of aggressive questioning from Sanders, Biden can now point to record turnout in states like Virginia, which overwhelmingly supported him. Then there’s the fact that he won nearly all of the African American support in Mississippi.

What’s more, Biden has won whites by big margins and racked up wins in the cities, suburbs and in rural areas, a fact that advisers hope will give him a sense of confidence against Sanders.

“Success builds on success,” said Ron Klain, Biden’s top adviser in charge of debates.

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[NurseJackie]

1. It can't happen soon enough.

[jrthin]

8. Exact words crossed my mind. nt

[George II]

47. Tuesday will be a body blow to Sanders with Biden winning roughly 395 to 180....

Then a few days later Georgia will hammer one more nail in the coffin with a 77-28 win for Biden.

[awesomerwb1]

2. Bernard will counter with

some made BS about him being the candidate of the youth, the future, etc etc. We’ll see what Biden’s reply to that is.

[redstatebluegirl]

4. Youth who don't care enough to stand in line to vote.

[awesomerwb1]

6. You and I both get that

However the optics are that those younger people that have voted are for “everything for free” Bernard.
Biden has to have an answer and a plan for that.

[Thekaspervote]

13. No doubt Biden will be ready

[IronLionZion]

9. Time is money

for people paid by the hour

[onetexan]

76. Thats the thing i dont get -why they show up for BS' rallies yet dont vote

[DownriverDem]

7. Do you honestly think

that Joe won't be ready for the youth question? He will be.

[awesomerwb1]

71. I wasn't just referring to the debate

in case I didn’t articulate that well, but also in general. I want to see young brilliant talent working on his campaign. Smart people on the team bridging the data and analytics gap with the kgop, and young and smart talent to help us promote green tech etc.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

3. A couple of one-on-one debates should bring more certainty as to who our nominee should be...

Better to have MORE democracy, out of an abundance of caution, than LESS!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[Demsrule86]

5. The nominee has been chosen and on Tuesday, it will become even more clear...a debate won't change a

thing ...despite the fervent hopes of those who still think Sanders has a chance. He doesn't...Biden is up by double digits in all Tuesday primary states. Florida alone will be a bloodbath.

[George II]

19. According to forecasts, after Tuesday Biden will need 44% of the remaining delegates, Sanders 62%...

...of the remaining delegates.

Put into perspective, Biden has won 14 states with more than 44%, Sanders only 3 with more than 62% (two of those were Northern Marianas with 4 of 6 delegates and his home state of Vermont)

On top of that, Sanders isn't forecast to win a single primary/caucus going forward. Not one.

Sanders simply has ZERO chance of getting the nomination. ZERO.

[DownriverDem]

10. Come on

So many voters do not agree. Are you really going to hang on even though it shows BS can't win? I truly feel sorry for folks who still think BS is the best candidate. It's truly time to help us beat trump.

[zackymilly]

12. How embarrassing. n/t

[HarlanPepper]

14. SCOREBOARD

[brooklynite]

22. Why do you feel we're uncertain?

[degage]

27. Better to have a Democrat in the WH than Trump.

Biden is the right choice at this time. Yes, I love Bernie's/Warren's/AOC's progressive ideas and policies. I would vote for them in a heartbeat. The reality is, at this point, we MUST defeat Trump. We cannot count on the COVID-19 doing him in. It won't. I've been seeing the posts on FB from my GOP/Trump supporter relatives and former friends back in the South. They completely believe COVID-19 is all just an effort to oust Trump. If anything, it has made them support him more, not less.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

41. How ironic that Bernie's M4A policies, had they been implemented years ago, could have saved us...

from the COVID-19 disaster that is upon us. That's why Democrats need a candidate with vision... it's why we need Bernie, now!! There's still EIGHT MONTHS until the election... what's the damn rush?!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[Todd79]

43. Anything Could've Saved Us From This Mess

Had Trump not scrapped Obama’s pandemic council, this could’ve been preventable. I’m not saying that M4A wouldn’t have, but it wouldn’t have prevented it. That takes early preparation, which was a strength of the Obama administration when it comes to dealing with pandemics like this.

[BGBD]

48. Italy

has universal healthcare and it certainly didn't help them.

Besides, Biden's plan would both ensure universal coverage and might actually get passed.

What could have helped would have been widespread testing in areas where any case had been confirmed and in other places that were statistically most likely to see cased. San Francisco, LA, Seattle, NY, Chicago, and any city with an international airport. Get the tests out where, including using the WHO tests until our own were up and going. Test anyone showing symptoms consistent with Covid 19.

That lets you actually model the problem better. It lets you get in front and do real contact tracing. It lets you know when comunity spread is happening fast and try to stop it before its out of control.

[George II]

46. Wha? Obama already had the infrastructure in place to battle this virus, trump dismantled it....

Too bad so many Sanders supporters sat out the last election and allowed trump to be elected.

On the other hand, Sanders has been in Washington almost 30 years, why hasn't he been able to convince his colleagues to pass his proposals in all that time? Remember, Representatives and Senators introduce legislation and get it passed, Presidents don't.

[oasis]

73. Whoomp, there it is! nt

[treestar]

54. We need a Congress that will pass that

And Democrat would sign it if it came from Congress.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

59. Yes, and Biden said he would veto M4A legislation... that's why Joe is last on my list

of the 3 remaining Democratic candidates I'd vote for to be our nominee.


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[George II]

61. You're only listening to the first few words of Biden's long answer, the only words....

....that the Sanders campaign feeds you. Listen to the REST of the answer, where he explains that he will NOT veto a good bill.

Watch the whole thing!

[Bayard]

60. We need a candidate

Who has actually written bills, and gotten them passed. One that has already dealt with many of the pressing issues we have, both here and abroad. One whose feet are firmly planted on the ground, not in the clouds.

We need normal, not revolution right now. And we need every Democrat--and Independent--to get behind that winning candidate to oust trump.

[Demsrule86]

77. Such policies did't save Italy...and you actually have to do more than talk...actually pass

legislation.

[George II]

45. In which states will Sanders get enough delegates to catch up?

[MyNameGoesHere]

64. I predict the Independent Senator from Vermont

Will be InASaDsTAteSoOn

[Codeine]

67. There is already certainty as to who

our nominee is; the race is decided and the rest is just a perpetual beatdown of a dead-end no-hoper.

[Demsrule86]

79. This is the last debate...and Biden has won...there is no uncertainty except for Sanders supporters

who can't accept that it is over.

[zackymilly]

11. Bernie: "You'll never be rid of meeeeeeeeeee!!! Mwahahahahahahahaha!!!" n/t

[ChiTownDenny]

16. It's rigged! It's a coronation!

So what if I praised Castro. So what if I honeymooned in Moscow. Hillary gave speeches at Goldman Sachs, fergodsakes!

[treestar]

53. He will run at age 83 in 2024

You can bet on it!

[zackymilly]

56. And 87 in 2028, 91 in 2032, 95 in 2036......n/t

[NoMoreRepugs]

15. Seriously, are the avid Bernie supporters ANY

different from the Deplorables in their fervor to support their “guy?”

[zackymilly]

17. Not much difference. n/t

[polichick]

18. lol - reading DU, the same question can be asked of Biden supporters.

[NoMoreRepugs]

20. We must interpret the English language differently.

[polichick]

21. A mirror might be helpful.

[NoMoreRepugs]

24. Appreciate the tip. Just please vote Biden in November.

[brooklynite]

23. Don't know what you're talking about...Biden was my third progressive choice

[polichick]

28. I'm talking about people here demanding that a candidate drop out...

in deference to their guy.

[showblue22]

30. Bernie is running negative ads

Yet can not win. It's not OK.

[polichick]

31. lol - it's primary season.

[showblue22]

32. He can not win.

He has no path. What is his purpose?

[treestar]

52. If he can't win, trying to damage the winner

is not OK.

[MH1]

72. Do you think the slate gets wiped clean once the nominee is declared?

Do you think that all those ads that were designed to plant negativity in voters' minds, suddenly "didn't happen" and every voter is like they never saw those ads?

If Bernie can't win, yet continues to run ads that tear down the presumptive Democratic nominee, how is he not helping Trump?

[brooklynite]

33. I don't see the link...

People (myself included) think that Bernie should drop out because 1) it's clear that he won't win the nomination and 2) it's better for our nominee (Biden) to begin focusing his campaign on Trump. Biden has never had the "fan" base that Sanders does.

[TwilightZone]

36. It's not in deference to Biden. It's in deference to reality.

The race is over.

[treestar]

51. there were demands for Biden to drop out

after Nevada.

[Demsrule86]

78. The primary is over Sanders is mathematically eliminated...so running ads is despicable.

He needs to say two words...I concede.

[k8conant]

35. That's what I see also...

the Biden Bros are at it.

I'm sad that so many want to jump the gun. I wish there were only a single day primary nationwide since we quit letting the National Convention be the nominating convention many years ago.

[polichick]

37. It's as if they're afraid their guy will blow it. I'd like a single day...

primary too - but that might be too democratic for the powers that be, who are always busy pulling strings.

[TwilightZone]

39. Nope, then high-delegate states would get all the focus.

Candidates would campaign in high-delegate states and ignore the rest. CA, NY, FL, TX and a few others would be kingmakers.

How exactly is that better than the current system?

[TwilightZone]

38. Primaries have been part of the process since 1912.

You're pining for 1908?

That being said, the convention is still the nominating convention to this day. The nominee isn't official until confirmed by a delegate vote at the convention.

If there was a single-day primary, candidates would focus only on high-delegate states and ignore the rest.

[Codeine]

69. Considering a huge chunk of us

are with Biden as a second or even third choice, one doubts there is any hint of the cultish nature of the Sandernistas among Biden voters.

[samnsara]

26. im convinced they wear MAGA hats when they go back home..

[Turin_C3PO]

29. That's the over the top

Sure, some Bernie supporters will vote Trump and stay home. They’re assholes. But 9 out of 10 will vote for Biden, I have no doubt.

[Codeine]

68. Every coin has two sides, sadly. nt

[Renew Deal]

25. This evokes images of Mortal Kombat.

[LuvLoogie]

34. Not crazy about Politico's headline.

How about: "Biden readies plan to clinch the nomination and finish off the trump administration."

[Alex4Martinez]

40. That was my take, also. Violent headline suggesting murder. nt

[TwilightZone]

42. lol, no

It's a figure of speech and a very common one.

[treestar]

55. Oh goodness

really?

[ucrdem]

44. He's not going to finish off Bernie. That we know.

On the other hand Bernie won't damage Biden much either, much as his partisans are hoping he will. One more debate will change little, like all those debates Hillary had with Bernie and then with Trump. She won every one on points and style but voters had made up their minds. And we already know what the media narrative will be: Bernie is back! Bernie is the comeback kid! Until of course the returns come in on Tuesday and he gets beaten again in all 4 states.

You heard it here first!

[comradebillyboy]

62. Bernie is not a particularly good debater. He doesn't

think well on his feet. That's why he always reverts to his stump speech for any question. Although I'm sure he memorized his smears of Joe.

[ucrdem]

63. Joe will do fine, but Bernie will carry on no matter what the outcome of the argument.

That's what I mean by not finishing him. This and any future debate is simply free advertising for Bernie at Joe's expense. There's no other reason to hold more debates.

[treestar]

50. How is it that Bernie gets to ask Biden questions?

I though they came from moderators. And then does Biden get to ask Bernie questions?

[Blue_true]

70. The Moderators will ask the questions.

My guess is that as he answers them, Sanders will attempt to ask Biden questions, in an attempt by Sanders to buttress his position.

[zackymilly]

57. Finish him! n/t

[AlexSFCA]

58. it should always be this way

we don’t need audience clapping or booing, it’s not wrestling.

[BluesClues]

65. I think Biden has this in the bag

It's going to be interesting how Biden performs. A biden trump debate is going to be insufferable

[marble falls]

74. Why do you find Biden kicking Trump's ass "insufferable"?

[Demsrule86]

80. Sure you do...

[Blue_true]

66. Joe has to defeat Bernie in the debate tomorrow, if that happens, it

is over for Bernie. Joe has had a brilliant week, if he tops that off by handling Sanders in a one on one debate, there is no longer any rational reason for Sanders to stay in the race, and if he does, voters will punish him in the remaining primaries.

[Cha]

75. I Hope to all the Universe! Enough Already!