Democratic Primaries

William769

(55,814 posts) Sun Mar 15, 2020, 07:58 PM Mar 2020

No one did fucking more for marriage equality Than Joe Biden.

FUCK YOU Bernie.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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No one did fucking more for marriage equality Than Joe Biden. (Original Post) William769 Mar 2020 OP

Absolutely. Fuck Sanders. Biden is the one that got it done. Bulsshit Sanders. Do nothing. LizBeth Mar 2020 #1

Everyone knows that who's paid attention.. Don't Cha Mar 2020 #2

He said he was for it and Biden was against it William769 Mar 2020 #3

OMG! Was Biden able to Correct him?!!! Cha Mar 2020 #5

K & R! Iliyah Mar 2020 #4

Absolutely, William769. madaboutharry Mar 2020 #6

Not to be too cute... Pentatonic Mar 2020 #7

Actually, Justice Kennedy. William769 Mar 2020 #8

Duh Pentatonic Mar 2020 #9

Anytime & welcome to DU. William769 Mar 2020 #10

Biden was at least highly ambiguous. dickthegrouch Mar 2020 #11

My recollection is Joe Biden jumped on our Bandwagon to help Marriage Equality. William769 Mar 2020 #12

LizBeth

(10,803 posts)

1. Absolutely. Fuck Sanders. Biden is the one that got it done. Bulsshit Sanders. Do nothing.

Reply to William769 (Original post)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:01 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(305,118 posts)

2. Everyone knows that who's paid attention.. Don't

Reply to William769 (Original post)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:02 PM

Mar 2020

tell me BS is disputing that?!!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

William769

(55,814 posts)

3. He said he was for it and Biden was against it

Reply to Cha (Reply #2)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:04 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(305,118 posts)

5. OMG! Was Biden able to Correct him?!!!

Reply to William769 (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:05 PM

Mar 2020

LBGTQ KNOW THAT's NOT TRUE!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)

4. K & R!

Reply to William769 (Original post)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:04 PM

Mar 2020

I remember it was VP Biden that President Obama trusted . . . .

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

madaboutharry

(41,303 posts)

6. Absolutely, William769.

Reply to William769 (Original post)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:12 PM

Mar 2020

LGBT people have long memories.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Pentatonic

(18 posts)

7. Not to be too cute...

Reply to William769 (Original post)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:15 PM

Mar 2020

But that distinction clearly belongs to John Roberts.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

William769

(55,814 posts)

8. Actually, Justice Kennedy.

Reply to Pentatonic (Reply #7)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:16 PM

Mar 2020

Joe help changing the minds of Americans.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Pentatonic

(18 posts)

9. Duh

Reply to William769 (Reply #8)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:20 PM

Mar 2020

Brain fart. Thanks for the correction.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

William769

(55,814 posts)

10. Anytime & welcome to DU.

Reply to Pentatonic (Reply #9)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:21 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

dickthegrouch

(3,524 posts)

11. Biden was at least highly ambiguous.

Reply to William769 (Original post)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:22 PM

Mar 2020

3. In the Vice Presidential Candidate debate, Joe Biden made a very ambiguous statement in response to the question “Do you support gay marriage?”

BIDEN:

"No. Barack Obama nor I support redefining from a civil side what constitutes marriage. We do not support that. That is basically the decision to be able to be able to be left to faiths and people who practice their faiths the determination what you call it. The bottom line though is, and I'm glad to hear the governor, I take her at her word, obviously, that she think there should be no civil rights distinction, none whatsoever, between a committed gay couple and a committed heterosexual couple”

.

We were heavily battling California Proposition 8 at the time and my suggestion to the campaign was to take the underlined part of Biden’s reply (slightly out of context) and use it as a part of the "No on 8" advertising. They ignored me.

However, the fact is, that at the time Biden made the statement, marriage had already been redefined in California. There was definitely a case for using some subterfuge and misdirection to say that the candidates for President and VP did not support redefining marriage to be between a man and a woman as the initiative sought to achieve.

Proposition 8 passed and marriage was redefined in a discriminatory fashion in California as a result.

I still support Biden over Bernie.

Ref http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/president/debates/transcripts/vice-presidential-debate.html

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

William769

(55,814 posts)

12. My recollection is Joe Biden jumped on our Bandwagon to help Marriage Equality.

Reply to dickthegrouch (Reply #11)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:26 PM

Mar 2020

He even brought President Obama around to our side.

I will be honest, before that point my mind id in a haze.

I was ecstatic with the outcome.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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