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highplainsdem

(52,128 posts)
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:37 PM Mar 2020

Kos: Bernie wanted to break Biden, the way Warren broke Bloomberg. Not even close to happening.






Bernie wanted to break Biden, the way Warren broke Bloomberg. Not even close to happening. Biden has been sharp.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Happyhippychick

(8,422 posts)
1. Wasn't he a Bernie supporter?
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:38 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Claustrum

(5,052 posts)
4. In 2020, Kos supported Warren until she dropped out and then he has been criticizing Bernie after
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:42 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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still_one

(96,414 posts)
6. I defer to you. I am probably thinking about 2016
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:48 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Claustrum

(5,052 posts)
11. Here are a few of his posts on daily kos after Warren drop out
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 09:11 PM
Mar 2020

Title: Bernie's revolution fizzled on first contact with actual voters. It didn't have to be that way

https://www.dailykos.com/story/2020/3/5/1924386/-Bernie-s-revolution-fizzled-on-first-contact-with-actual-voters-It-didn-t-have-to-be-that-way

Title: Bernie's grievance politics consolidated the left to a 30% losing minority

https://www.dailykos.com/story/2020/3/5/1924709/-Bernie-s-grievance-politics-consolidated-the-left-to-a-30-losing-minority

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

still_one

(96,414 posts)
2. and this is coming from the DailyKos which favors Sanders
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:39 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Turin_C3PO

(15,717 posts)
5. I don't know about that.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:46 PM
Mar 2020

When Warren was in the race, it seemed most supported her. Now, to me, it seems evenly divided between Sanders and Biden supporters. Or maybe you’re right and I’m reading the wrong threads.

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Cha

(304,963 posts)
7. How about the Opposite of what's
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:50 PM
Mar 2020

Happening?

Mahalo, hpd & Kos!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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sop

(11,093 posts)
8. If Sanders was counting on Biden appearing weak and confused this evening, he miscalculated.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:57 PM
Mar 2020

Biden looks confident, energized and completely in control.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brush

(57,272 posts)
9. Many seem to have forgotten how Joe dismantled Ryan in the 2012 VP debate. I never...
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 09:05 PM
Mar 2020

doubted he would handle himself well. He bested Sanders and will destroy trump 1-on-1.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

oasis

(51,594 posts)
10. Bernie singing his same ol' tune. No surprise there. nt
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 09:09 PM
Mar 2020
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Cha

(304,963 posts)
13. the one that didn't work.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 04:44 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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thesquanderer

(12,326 posts)
14. I disagree with the premise. I don't think he wanted to do to Biden what Warren did to Bloomberg.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 04:48 PM
Mar 2020

Because Sanders knows that Biden is very likely to be the nominee, and he smartly doesn't want to totally kneecap our nominee as Warren did to Bloomberg. What he mostly wants is to push his agenda. Making it easier for Trump to win in November is NOT something Sanders wants to do.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Jedi Guy

(3,308 posts)
15. I'm no fan of Bernie Sanders personally.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 04:55 PM
Mar 2020

I think hanging in the race when it's virtually certain he won't win isn't the smartest move. It reeks of desperation and ego more than principle, from where I'm standing. But that's just, like, my opinion, man.

But despite my personal dislike of him, I agree. I don't think he's deliberately trying to cripple Biden for the general election. I don't think he's spitefully doing this to help Trump. He probably is hoping to drag Biden to the left and have a shot at getting some of his ideas injected into the platform.

The issue is that while he may not intend to help Trump, he's doing so regardless. Any attempt to damage Biden in the primary is just writing ad copy for the Trump campaign in the general. Bernie's surrogates are out there pushing the "cognitive decline" narrative as hard as they can, and you can get Trump will gleefully latch onto that.

I can understand hanging in the race until Biden hits the magic number. Biden's campaign was written off as hopeless mere weeks ago, and now here we are. But the moment Biden hits the magic number, Bernie needs to bow out. If he doesn't, he's helping Trump, good intentions be damned.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

showblue22

(1,026 posts)
17. Ummm.. He's mathematically eliminated
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 05:04 PM
Mar 2020

Yet running very negative ads.

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Jedi Guy

(3,308 posts)
18. Are you certain that's true? That he's mathematically eliminated, I mean?
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 05:36 PM
Mar 2020

Of a total 3,979 delegates, 1,770 have been allocated thus far, leaving 2,209 remaining. Bernie's down by 154 delegates right now, and the momentum is all going Biden's way. Polls indicate that future primaries are likely to be a bloodbath for Bernie, but polls aren't perfect predictors of how things will go. And not all that long ago, Bernie had the momentum. So no, I don't think Bernie is mathematically eliminated, not yet.

As a practical matter, Bernie's almost certainly done. Like I said, I can respect hanging in until Biden hits the magic number. Hanging in a moment longer than that, though, is just being foolishly stubborn. Do I think what Bernie's doing is great? No. Do I think he's deliberately helping Trump out of spite? Also no.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

showblue22

(1,026 posts)
16. I would not give him the benefit of doubt
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 05:03 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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