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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

wyldwolf

(43,891 posts)
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 10:14 AM Mar 2020

Friends, it's like this.

You're either going to help Trump get re-elected in November or you're going to help defeat Trump.

Not voting, voting 3rd party, or voting for a write-in candidate will ALL help get Trump re-elected. You're a Trump supporter if you do any of those.

There is no middle ground here. And there is no forgiveness. If you do anything to help Trump and admit to it, we'll remember you. Don't come back in 2022 or 2024 claiming to be one of the good guys.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Friends, it's like this. (Original Post) wyldwolf Mar 2020 OP
It is literally good vs. evil dalton99a Mar 2020 #1
Agree! ananda Mar 2020 #6
You're right... but I still hear the same shit I heard before: NurseJackie Mar 2020 #7
Regarding your third point Hiawatha Pete Mar 2020 #13
Here you go... NurseJackie Mar 2020 #20
It's hard for people to let go. I know some Bernie people (and I feel for them) LisaM Mar 2020 #23
I'm not voting for Biden hangaleft Mar 2020 #50
It's the good guy vs the bad guy. LiberalBrooke Mar 2020 #26
It really is a simple, binary choice bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #2
I believe you when you say there's no forgiveness here. House of Roberts Mar 2020 #3
I totally agree and point out that if tRUMP were to be elected in 2020 it'd be the first time... abqtommy Mar 2020 #4
There is an extremely good chance DENVERPOPS Mar 2020 #21
That tends to put it on us... and I have confidence that we're up to it. abqtommy Mar 2020 #27
Damn right. GOTV nt ramen Mar 2020 #5
Amen Joinfortmill Mar 2020 #8
Fuck the vanity voting BS. we can do it Mar 2020 #9
Vanity voting is not dead... it's alive and well. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #22
🤮🤬 we can do it Mar 2020 #24
How about "for" a functioning government? dansolo Mar 2020 #39
Surely no one here would ever do that. Ligyron Mar 2020 #10
Sanity versus insanity. Good versus complete evil. kairos12 Mar 2020 #11
What you said, wyldwolf. EVERYTHING you said. calimary Mar 2020 #12
k and r NRaleighLiberal Mar 2020 #14
Biden for President and Bernie for Vice President (or vice versa) blakstoneranger Mar 2020 #15
no. Just no. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #19
Oh hell no. we can do it Mar 2020 #25
aw not only no Skittles Mar 2020 #31
Gross. nt Codeine Mar 2020 #57
Well Said! Hiawatha Pete Mar 2020 #16
AMEN!!! Chicagogrl1 Mar 2020 #17
Agree totally gradmaster Mar 2020 #18
Recommended. H2O Man Mar 2020 #28
Bernie supporters will vote for Biden... Catch2.2 Mar 2020 #29
"DNC putting their thumb on the scale" Bernie bro conspiracy wyldwolf Mar 2020 #30
If it's a choice between Biden and our clownish, incompetent Fascist-In-Chief iwannaknow Mar 2020 #32
Dump the Chump is job one. Hassler Mar 2020 #33
do you really think anyone cares? NJCher Mar 2020 #34
Yeah, about 152 people wyldwolf Mar 2020 #35
I made 153 TNNurse Mar 2020 #36
Thank you! wyldwolf Mar 2020 #37
Doesn't help to call Sanders names madeup64 Mar 2020 #40
nothing worse than a poor winner questionseverything Mar 2020 #48
The American expression is "sore loser" so it would be sore winner. betsuni Mar 2020 #54
The #bendtheknee crowd does not get to Codeine Mar 2020 #58
THAT'S for sure. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #64
Served on a jury on this grantcart Mar 2020 #41
Those were my thoughts too. William769 Mar 2020 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author hangaleft Mar 2020 #52
that was always my intention. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #55
to make any sense NJCher Mar 2020 #44
Have a nice election night wyldwolf Mar 2020 #45
you failed NJCher Mar 2020 #49
on the contrary, you failed wyldwolf Mar 2020 #53
you're not worth my time NJCher Mar 2020 #62
yet you keep responding. Odd. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #63
Yep madeup64 Mar 2020 #38
And I respect yr feelings grantcart Mar 2020 #43
You absolutely get it NCProgressive Mar 2020 #56
I want people to vote with us because they feel they have a seat at the table. Gore1FL Mar 2020 #46
Let's call it the "Trump Virus"...give credit where it's due. n/t DonaldsRump Mar 2020 #47
Not going to be an election DoubleDeuce Mar 2020 #51
Well said. But I'm the choir. Post something like this on twitter or whatnot. mikelgb Mar 2020 #59
I don't think it's DUers we need to be concerned about. We'll vote with a vengeance. Firestorm49 Mar 2020 #60
Absofuckinglutely Ingersollman Mar 2020 #61
 

dalton99a

(83,314 posts)
1. It is literally good vs. evil
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 10:15 AM
Mar 2020

I said good, not perfect or ideal.

The good must win.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ananda

(29,948 posts)
6. Agree!
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:13 AM
Mar 2020

Biden will be fine!

And no, not perfect either, but
compared to MF45, he will be great!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
7. You're right... but I still hear the same shit I heard before:
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:15 AM
Mar 2020

"Your candidate needs to EARN my vote."
"I'm not in love with your candidate."
"I need a good reason to vote FOR someone rather than voting AGAINST someone."
"I'm tired and it's past my bedtime."
"I'm Susan Sarandon and I'm rich enough that I don't need to care."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hiawatha Pete

(1,920 posts)
13. Regarding your third point
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 12:22 PM
Mar 2020

"I need a good reason to vote FOR someone rather than voting AGAINST someone"

It is simply unfathomable how ANYONE could still think that way in the current situation, though I have no doubt there are rubes out there saying exactly that.

At least it's unfathomable to this poster from north of the border- Canadians have a long history of strategic voting.

Biden is an amazing candidate and will be a great President.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LisaM

(28,299 posts)
23. It's hard for people to let go. I know some Bernie people (and I feel for them)
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:06 PM
Mar 2020

They (the people I know) are as invested in Bernie as much as the Trump people are invested in Trump. To compromise now, I believe, would be to admit they were in the wrong not to compromise four years ago. It's an emotional investment, and it's got to be very psychologically difficult to let go. And everyone is in panic mode right now - not the best time to make rational choices, as we see with peoples' bizarre shopping habits.

I am trying to be sympathetic, even though I've seen Bernie Sanders as a bane to the Democrats since the summer of 2015.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

hangaleft

(649 posts)
50. I'm not voting for Biden
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:14 AM
Mar 2020

I’m voting against tRump.

By pulling the lever for Joe Biden without reservation or qualification. He was my sixth choice. But, if he’s our nominee, he’ll get my vote. Hell, I’d vote for him ten times if I could. Whatever will rid us of the plague currently squatting at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LiberalBrooke

(553 posts)
26. It's the good guy vs the bad guy.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:20 PM
Mar 2020

Plain and simple. There is no other option here.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bucolic_frolic

(45,824 posts)
2. It really is a simple, binary choice
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 10:19 AM
Mar 2020

But weak minds must be convinced

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

House of Roberts

(5,535 posts)
3. I believe you when you say there's no forgiveness here.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 10:24 AM
Mar 2020

Based on what I've observed, someone gores someone else's sacred ox even once, and they get excommunicated.

The last time a candidate I voted for carried my state, and won the Presidency was Carter. It is frustrating.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
4. I totally agree and point out that if tRUMP were to be elected in 2020 it'd be the first time...
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 10:28 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DENVERPOPS

(9,609 posts)
21. There is an extremely good chance
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 12:58 PM
Mar 2020

that he will be "elected" exactly like he was in 2016 or even worse..........The Republicans and Putin have far more corruption going on for this election now that the Supreme Court has said to the Republicans: Anything Goes

Then of course, depending on the Virus, most of us might not even think/care about the election.......

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
27. That tends to put it on us... and I have confidence that we're up to it.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:26 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

we can do it

(12,697 posts)
9. Fuck the vanity voting BS.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:23 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
22. Vanity voting is not dead... it's alive and well.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 12:59 PM
Mar 2020

From Susan Sarandon to guys like this clown who profess the need to vote "for" something rather than "against" something.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dansolo

(5,379 posts)
39. How about "for" a functioning government?
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 09:29 PM
Mar 2020

How do these people think something like M4A could ever happen with that kind of attitude?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Ligyron

(7,825 posts)
10. Surely no one here would ever do that.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:45 AM
Mar 2020

I should hope not anyway.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

kairos12

(13,131 posts)
11. Sanity versus insanity. Good versus complete evil.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:46 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

calimary

(83,453 posts)
12. What you said, wyldwolf. EVERYTHING you said.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:57 AM
Mar 2020

EVERYTHING. EVERY sentence. EVERY word.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

blakstoneranger

(333 posts)
15. Biden for President and Bernie for Vice President (or vice versa)
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 12:29 PM
Mar 2020

There, problem solved!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

we can do it

(12,697 posts)
25. Oh hell no.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:09 PM
Mar 2020

Biden promised a female VP and he actually keeps his word.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skittles

(157,027 posts)
31. aw not only no
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 08:52 PM
Mar 2020

HELL FUCKING NO

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Chicagogrl1

(446 posts)
17. AMEN!!!
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 12:31 PM
Mar 2020

I blame 2016 Sanders supporters who refused to vote for Hillary in key battleground states. That is why we have the evil orange pos currently in WH!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

gradmaster

(29 posts)
18. Agree totally
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 12:32 PM
Mar 2020

Why anyone would choose to not vote or write in a candidate just because their preferred person is not the nominee is beyond me! As long as a candidate holds the same basic beliefs, why would you not vote for him, especially when it means defeating Trump and all he stands for! We all have to compromise! No single candidate will be perfect.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Catch2.2

(629 posts)
29. Bernie supporters will vote for Biden...
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 07:58 PM
Mar 2020

if he is the nominee. Here are some reasons why:
1) Biden is more liked than Hillary was
2) Biden seems to be winning the nomination on his own without the DNC putting their thumb on the scale
3) Trump! F him! He needs to be voted out and people realize that

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

wyldwolf

(43,891 posts)
30. "DNC putting their thumb on the scale" Bernie bro conspiracy
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 08:04 PM
Mar 2020

And they're already saying it about Biden. The latest bullshit claim? They're saying Illinois accidentally showed tomorrow's results on TV today.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

iwannaknow

(213 posts)
32. If it's a choice between Biden and our clownish, incompetent Fascist-In-Chief
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 08:54 PM
Mar 2020

I will vote for Biden.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Hassler

(3,520 posts)
33. Dump the Chump is job one.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 09:07 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

NJCher

(37,208 posts)
34. do you really think anyone cares?
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 09:14 PM
Mar 2020
And there is no forgiveness.

If you or anyone else here "forgives" ?

Your post is laughable.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

wyldwolf

(43,891 posts)
35. Yeah, about 152 people
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 09:18 PM
Mar 2020

LOL. Enjoy your stay. Bernie is a loser.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

madeup64

(257 posts)
40. Doesn't help to call Sanders names
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 09:32 PM
Mar 2020

If you really want to get people on your side that isn't the way. You could have said" I'm sorry you feel that way hopefully you come around to see why it's important to beat Trump." Or something along those lines. Just as it is important for us Sanders supporters to accept that Biden is going to be the candidate and support him in order to be Trump, it's important for Biden supporters to be gracious in winning.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

questionseverything

(9,942 posts)
48. nothing worse than a poor winner
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:02 PM
Mar 2020

some of these peops seem to be trying to run off Bernie supporters

I do not understand it, we are stronger together

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

betsuni

(27,087 posts)
54. The American expression is "sore loser" so it would be sore winner.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:26 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
58. The #bendtheknee crowd does not get to
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:24 AM
Mar 2020

demand graciousness.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

wyldwolf

(43,891 posts)
64. THAT'S for sure.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:41 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
41. Served on a jury on this
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 09:41 PM
Mar 2020

I found your reply to be factual and courteous

A) Bernie has lost almost all of the one on one contests

B) You wished they enjoyed their stay.

In 24 hours we have a presumptive nominee
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

William769

(55,783 posts)
42. Those were my thoughts too.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 09:47 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to grantcart (Reply #41)

 

wyldwolf

(43,891 posts)
55. that was always my intention.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:27 AM
Mar 2020

Thank you!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NJCher

(37,208 posts)
44. to make any sense
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 10:14 PM
Mar 2020

you have to get 152 people who care from these categories, which you defined in your post:

Not voting, voting 3rd party, or voting for a write-in candidate

Most of your 152 people, if not all, are Biden supporters, therefore, they do not qualify.

Your comment, "Bernie is a loser" shows a lack of maturity.

If your goal is to get "not voting, voting 3rd party, or voting for a write-in candidate" to vote for Biden, you are failing and you will not persuade anyone with such tactics. In fact, such tactics probably incite people do double down, so you're really just shooting yourself in the foot.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

wyldwolf

(43,891 posts)
45. Have a nice election night
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 10:21 PM
Mar 2020

We should have our presumptive nominee in about 24 hours

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NJCher

(37,208 posts)
49. you failed
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:56 AM
Mar 2020

to address any of my points.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

wyldwolf

(43,891 posts)
53. on the contrary, you failed
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:25 AM
Mar 2020

... to realize I'm not obligated to address your points, nor do I give a shit about them.

Time is ticking for Bernie... tick tick tick tick...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NJCher

(37,208 posts)
62. you're not worth my time
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:41 AM
Mar 2020

I will not answer any more of your childish posts.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

wyldwolf

(43,891 posts)
63. yet you keep responding. Odd.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:35 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

madeup64

(257 posts)
38. Yep
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 09:22 PM
Mar 2020

Am I bummed my candidate won't get the nomination? Sure. However I'm fucking petrified of what four more years of this clown show will bring upon our country.
A vote for anyone but Joe Biden helps Trump plain and simple.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
43. And I respect yr feelings
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 09:48 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
56. You absolutely get it
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:29 AM
Mar 2020

Thank you.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gore1FL

(21,629 posts)
46. I want people to vote with us because they feel they have a seat at the table.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 10:31 PM
Mar 2020

I absolutely do not want people to join us over threats of ostracization. Your fundamental point is right. I cannot stress enough, though, the solution is not to drive people away.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
47. Let's call it the "Trump Virus"...give credit where it's due. n/t
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 10:49 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DoubleDeuce

(22 posts)
51. Not going to be an election
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:16 AM
Mar 2020

We all seem to be going on the assumption there will actually be an election. Ohio cancelled their primary with no authority to do so, what makes you think tRump won't do the same thing ?
We are in a state of emergency right now, he will say the quarantine must continue, the election must be delayed until the crisis is over. He will remain in charge to see us all through this unprecedented emergency. He will have all the support he needs...... We saw that the normal checks and balances are no longer operational. We are just months away from being a former democracy.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

mikelgb

(6,021 posts)
59. Well said. But I'm the choir. Post something like this on twitter or whatnot.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:25 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Firestorm49

(4,146 posts)
60. I don't think it's DUers we need to be concerned about. We'll vote with a vengeance.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:41 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Ingersollman

(204 posts)
61. Absofuckinglutely
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:06 AM
Mar 2020

correct!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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