People are voting

[sheshe2]

People are voting in three states today, during a Pandemic virus and against the lethal virus in the WH.

Some of our most vulnerable are coming out in droves, our elders. The ones most likely to die during this Pandemic. They are risking their lives for this countries future. The youth vote, just sitting it out as they always do. The elders have always been the revolution and we have accomplished so much over the years. Time the youth actually wakes up from their stupor. Complaining and whining accomplishes nothing. Voting and diligence does.

Go Joe!

[LizBeth]

1. Thank you people. I know it is hard. I would too. Risk for this is not too high.

[Cha]

2. Well said, she.. Brave Souls to Polls!

Stay Safe!

[Pillow talk]

3. is this a good thing? Shouldn't primary voting be more agile so these folks DON'T have to put their

very lives at risk?

[LisaL]

6. Well, it might be better if young aren't there because

they could be carriers.

[PoliticAverse]

9. "We're sorry your loved one died a horrible death, but they got to vote 3 months early...

and that's the most important thing, right?"


Time for vote by mail.

[NCProgressive]

21. People can and do take precautions

1. They keep distance, 2. They don't touch their mouth, nose or eyes during the process, 3. They wash their hands right after. (For added protection, they can wear gloves, mask and protective eye glasses too although those are necessary if 6 feet of distance is kept.

It is not rocket science.

[sheshe2]

10. Welp.

The 'Resident, after whining and then screaming that this was all a hoax fabricated by Dems to make him look bad was a mere two weeks ago. Little late to change how we vote.

Some Americans have put their lives on the line for a century. African Americans put their lives on the line for a chance to vote. Women put their lives on the line for their right to vote. They were young and were willing to die for that right. Now we are old and still fighting for the young ones since they are to lazy and apathetic to bother to go to the polls. However they love to complain and tell us elders that we ruined their future, one that they are to lazy to vote for.

[Pillow talk]

14. even though this is true my point still stands. in fact we, as a society, didn't help those folks

either. we must, must see this.

[NCProgressive]

22. Please don't feel bad. Sanders would have still lost.

[Pillow talk]

25. i don't and yes.

[csziggy]

15. Florida has vote by mail (if voters chose) and early voting

If people were concerned about getting sick why didn't they request an absentee ballot last week? All they had to do was to call their elections office and ask for one!

Or, as my husband and I did, they could have voted early. That was available March 7 to 15 at multiple locations in each county. When we went in, we were the only voters in the place and the poll workers did not have to touch us. They had wipes for the sign in screen.

Doing either of those would have reduced their social distance to a minimum. Instead many wait until "election day" and have to stand in lines and vote in a crowded facility.

People do not have to put "their very lives" at risk - they can make choices which reduce their risks. If they make the choice that increases their risk, that is on them.

[Pillow talk]

16. i don't believe in free will. for me, your point is meaningless.

Everything is confined into systems.

[csziggy]

17. Without free will what's the point in voting?

Your point is meaningless. Discussing elections without free will is absurdist.

[Pillow talk]

18. no. we are a sum of our experiences. to this very moment in time. you, me everyone.

we vote on those experiences. its pretty important.

[Pillow talk]

19. What's even more important is the systems in place to direct us one way or the other.

[csziggy]

24. The systems are in place - people have to make choices

The same way they select who they are going to vote for they have to select which method they will use to vote for their candidate.

If people don't want to make the choice that is safest for them, that is on the voter. If they have allowed their officials to give them a system that does not allow safe choices, they have to change those systems long before election year.

Since before 2000 our voting systems have been messed up. Florida at least has put into place systems that are, to use your word, agile. They allow the voters to make choices that best fit their needs.

Asking for changes in election systems on voting day is reckless and irresponsible, especially when there are already a variety of methods available to voters. To my mind, attempting to cancel or postpone even a primary election on the day of or the day before will lead to all sorts of abuses in the future.

I don't want systems disrupted so much that Trump and his cohorts can use the disruptions as precendent to abort the November election.

[Pillow talk]

30. i pretty much agree with this.

[Walleye]

35. You don't believe in free will? Sorry, sounds crazy to me

[Pillow talk]

47. Its hardly crazy. do a little research and it may surprise you.

[Rebl2]

23. Well that's

great for FLORIDA, but where I live (MISSOURI) no early voting or mail in ballots. Only if you can prove you will be out of town on Election Day or surgery scheduled are you allowed to vote early thanks to republican led state house.

[csziggy]

28. My sympathies

It took the embarrassment of the 2000 election to get the Republican led Florida legislature to allow mail in voting by choice and to all early voting. I worry they will pull those since both of those methods seem to favor Democratic voters but I think even their own voters would revolt if they tried to pull them now.

Keep working on them - and I hope you can get the systems changed.

[llmart]

26. +1000

There really is no excuse for any Floridian to have to go to the polls if they don't want to. They have more options than a lot of other states do.

[emmaverybo]

4. Thank you and bravo! The elders carry the revolution.

[sheshe2]

11. We were and still are the Revolution.

And...yes we will die trying to make this right.

The youth need to come up to the plate pretty dayum soon. They need to pull up their britches and take a stand and that means voting, not whining. Clock is ticking.

[llmart]

27. +1

[NNadir]

42. Yeah we were just the best. We increased the concentration...

...of carbon dioxide by over 100 ppm in our lifetimes, strip mined mountains of coal, filled the seas with plastic, saddled our kids and grandkids and their grandkids with enormous debt, voted for two terms of Reagan, one term of Bush Senior, Two of Bush Junior, oh, and um, that fine fellow in our Generation, Donald Trump. We stripped scientists and engineers from corporate management and replaced them with asshole MBA's who were great at shuffling papers, exported all our plants to China and India, congratulated ourselves for recycling electronic waste - in China, where babies are born with absurdly high concentrations of flame retardants and heavy metals in our blood, got enslaved kids to dig cobalt for our "green" electric cars, and partied like there was no tommorrow.

Sex, drugs, rock and roll and real holiness, that's us.

These kids are emerging from college saddled with debt, poor job prospects, working their asses off, living in a poisoned world where everything is dying, and I'm so damned glad that we can look down on them and tell them how they suck compared to us.

I have no use for Bernie Sanders and his asshole revolution, which is pure 1969, but frankly, I'm not impressed at all with those of us who came of age in that time.

History will not forgive us, nor should it.

As Greta Thunberg put it, "How dare we?"

[emmaverybo]

44. Millennials with a B.A. on the average make 100,000 +per year. No they are not all saddled with

debt they can not pay, though millennials’ main debt is credit card. Expanding forgiveness programs, getting them functional, discharging in bankruptcy and other interventions aside from paying everyone’s college debt, can go a long way to lifting the burden where needed.


By the way, we also voted in Carter, Clinton, Gore (stolen), Kerry (likely stolen), Hillary Clinton (same). Oh, and Obama.

[NNadir]

46. Well as a boomer myself...

...I find this response sort of typical of what we can expect, placing us in the category of the Boomer-in-Chief, the self congratulating toilet paper depletion expert.

Let's see...um...oh yes...

Millennials with a B.A. on the average make 100,000 +per year. No they are not all saddled with debt they can not pay, though millennials’ main debt is credit card. Expanding forgiveness programs, getting them functional, discharging in bankruptcy and other interventions aside from paying everyone’s college debt, can go a long way to lifting the burden where needed.

Just say "there's no problem" by making something up...and boom...boom...boomer...we're in magic land.

You know, my son, aged 20, is a materials science engineering student at a very good university." The sticker price on his education approximates a quarter of a million dollars, maybe a little more when you add incidentals like books and fees.

Now because of his outstanding grades in high school - he is by the way much smarter than I am and certainly much smarter than 90% of the boomers here who risk injuring themselves and needing rotator cuff surgery because of agressively patting themselves on the back for how wonderful we are - the University made him a very generous offer filled with impressive grants, but no, it wasn't all covered. Now, as it happens, except for one course that is required and is only offered in a spring semester, he will have enough credits to graduate in 3 years, not four. I

So before starting, and before deciding which school to attend, he took out a small loan at a bank, and we sat down, calculated the likely payments after 4 years, and then looked up the expected starting salary for his work.

It wasn't, um, $100,000 year. It was $61,000 mean.

Now the engineering students who didn't get grants on the scale he received could be looking at a quarter million dollars in debt. For engineers...

Engineers are people who make the world work. Imagine starting your career, after four grueling years of intense study in a world where a small house might cost $300,000 and a decent car $20,000, and looking at that kind of debt.

Really did any of us baby boomer assholes look at that kind of thing, school debts the equivalent of a house?

Now mind you, there are some privileged children who are in the Ivanka class, and will have Daddies and Mommies with connections to bring them into MBA land and work in the family tradition of living being paid huge sums for shuffling papers and screwing the shit out of everyone else.

When you make these assertions, I have the distinct impression that you're mimicing another baby boomer person talking about a subject he knows nothing about.

To wit:

Trump assured Americans at that February 26 news conference that the number of people infected in the United States is "going very substantially down, not up." Trump even bragged about the 15 cases at the time on US soil, claiming that "the 15, within a couple of days, is going to be down to close to zero."

God forbid we should think anything unpleasant about reality, and if someone tries to the force the issue, we'll simply make up an ersatz fact with no reference, no support, and insist it's true.

Now, these kids will write the history of our generation. Since they are smarter than we are, more highly analytical, deeper, and more profound they're not going to listen to our excuses, including excuses about putative stolen elections. If we were a decent generation it wouldn't have been close enough to steal.

Of all the Presidents you listed claiming we elected them, one one truly rose to a level of greatness; that would be President Obama. He was elected, in my opinion not because of baby boomers, but because he inspired another long unjustly denigrated demographic, African Americans, another time they saved our asses.

President Clinton was a reasonably good President, but in typical "Sex, drugs and Rock and Roll" fashion, he squandered his legacy on a dalliance with a 19 year old woman when he knew that the vicious baby boomer Republicans, Newt Gingrich and that ilk, were gunning for his ass on exactly that score, dalliances with women.

He would have served his country better by keeping his pants on.

Jimmy Carter was a good man, particularly after leaving office, but you know, that Baby Boomer thirst for our cars made gasoline a big issue, hence while speaking of human rights, he kissed up to Reza Pahlavi, the "Shah," who's Savak police were torturing people literally to death.

Al Gore, correctly drew our attention to Climate Change, and perhaps suffered for the hype about the dalliance, but frankly his putative solutions to the problem, so called "renewable energy" have not worked, are not working and won't work, baby boomer affection for them notwithstanding.

And let's face it, because we did very little to correct a culture that commoditized women based on their looks on one hand, and demonized women of high intelligence, we bear responsibility for the 2016 election.

I remind you, with whatever respect you may be due, that the child caging beast in the White House, the avatar of arrogance, contempt, and the celebration and promotion of ignorance and lies has his highest level of support among people born before 1955.

Last night my millennial son was in his room, in conference with his colleagues discussing how they might advance their project - the development of sustainable, cheap, easy to use HIV tests that could be freely distributed in the third world - when their campus is shut because an orange baby boomer, like the rest of our generation, wasn't paying fucking attention.

Again, those kids, doing that, they will write our history. Since they are very smart, very alive, very aware, and since they will have hell to pay for what we and not they have done, it is very unlikely they will forgive us. They shouldn't. Dripping with contempt for them as we do all over this website, contempt for our future I can understand why they're disengaged from our stupid spin or reality.

An no, that old tired senile screw ball in his Che Guevara tee shirt might think he can claim to speak for them, but like the rest of us, he's just clueless.

Have a nice evening.

[apcalc]

5. God bless them . They are the patriots. I wish all could vote by mail.

[getagrip_already]

7. the youth are NOT just sitting around....

They are out partying like it's bret kavanagh in 1989. Yeeeeee-haaaaaaaa.

[sheshe2]

12. True.

[George II]

8. And yet the young voters are STILL not showing up!

[sheshe2]

13. That is my point.

I read the stats tonight. Gah!

[NCProgressive]

20. They are coming out to vote for Biden

Young voters are probably partying during spring break

[FloridaBlues]

29. Have a question if states delay too much how can biden reach the 1990 delegates

If states are too close to convention isn't there a cut off before convention?

[Gothmog]

31. It is Joe who is increasing voter turnout

Link to tweet

[lunatica]

32. Hopefully the young people will come out in November

I used to only vote in the General elections. I vote in the primaries now, even though I will vote in a November foe whoever is the Nominee.

[Turin_C3PO]

34. History says they won't

although I hope they do. They didn’t come out for McGovern in 1972, when everyone was sure they’d show up to vote against Nixon. I’m a millennial myself and I’ve voted since I was 18 in 2002.

[C Moon]

33. Trump's horrid response to the pandemic probably put some fire under people's butts, too.

[tavernier]

36. Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes!!!

Thank You!!!!!


I’m 73 but not exactly decrepit or shuffling like Tim Conway to the polls. I ran a mile this morning and walked another.

They say run a younger person... but there weren’t any younger people there at the polls.

Hey!!!!! Come join us!

[sheshe2]

38. We keep doing the heavy lifting.

They are still partying.

Kudos to you for your run and walk.

[tavernier]

41. Oddly I remember joining many protests in the 60 - 70's

and we truly did make a difference, but sadly I don’t remember voting. Same with kids today... they don’t believe in the vote.

[spooky3]

37. Thank you, courageous voters! nt

[MustLoveBeagles]

39. I voted today (Illinois)

When I went to my polling place around 3pm it was a very light turnout with no waiting. An elderly man was holding the outside door open for another elderly man in walker and kept it open for me while he also open the inside doors for us. That was very thoughtful of him. At one point he was stretched out like a wishbone. He had some trouble finding the table for his precinct and then machine wouldn't take his first ballet so he had to fill out another one. He was telling jokes the whole time and cracking everyone up. The poll workers were around my age (late forties) to elderly. Almost all of them were female and they were so kind and helpful. One women was wiping surfaces down the entire time I was there. The one's handing out the cards for signatures and the ballots were wearing gloves.

I sterilized my pens after I used them even though they said it wasn't necessary. There was a system for sterilizing them after one use. While cleaning my desk at work yesterday I discovered a tiny container of antibacterial wipes and took them with me to the polling station. The people there thought the container was cute and told me those wipes were like gold. I maintained the 6 foot rule as best as I could.

I've voted almost every election since my first one in 1992 at age 20 but this is the first primary I've ever voted in. I wondered if I should skip it this one too due to the virus, but my husband urged me to do it anyway. He knows how important this was to me. I'm so glad I went.

[CottonBear]

40. I voted early for Biden in GA. before KKKemp delayed the primary. N/T

[rogue emissary]

43. K&R!

for the late-night crowd.

[Gothmog]

45. Candidates who has dropped out (others) are leading Bernie Sanders in Florida.

Link to tweet