Wish it was Joe & not Bernie streaming a compelling Corona Virus Round table right now but its not.

[zonkers]

What a missed real time opportunity to comfort to a lot of scared Americans and demonsrate leadership. This is the kind of confounding stuff that gives this ex-Warren supporter great pause about Joe. I'm voting for him. But come on, tweets are not enough at this unprecedented moment. Hate him or not. Spoiler or not. Just like Bernie said, he is winning the battle of ideas but not electability. It will be a long summer.

[msongs]

1. joe is doing his own thing just fine thx. nice try tho nt

[zonkers]

2. Exactly

[getagrip_already]

51. yup, joe had a presser this morning without the glitz.....

Oh, and he didn't miss any critical votes to do it either.

[George II]

3. The thing they promoted the most earlier today was the musical guests? I see Nina Turner now...

...on Twitter thanking them, not the serious people at the "round table".

Have you followed what Biden has been doing this week, what he's been planning, what he's been communicating.

Speaking of missed real time opportunities, why hasn't Sanders been in Washington the last two days with all the other Senators?

[zonkers]

4. I think thoughtfully adressing the crisis of the pandemic is probably more important than the non

event you just referenced. And yeah, there were musical guests. Bernie will be back in in a bit I guess. It's viewable later. Bernie pointed out the ridiculousness of a measly 1000 check for every American in the face of the shitstorm that we now face.

[Mr.Bill]

7. That "non event" is his job

and the taxpayers are paying him for it.

[zonkers]

12. What about the millions about to lose their lives? And the millions about to lose their jobs?

What exactly did he miss by not being there? Was he casting a deciding vote or something?

[Mr.Bill]

15. How about speaking up for what he wants in the bills they

are going to vote on? How about some type of contribution to the conversation in the Senate? Like I said, that's his job.

[George II]

18. He could have been caucusing with his Democratic colleagues, coming up with reasonable....

....responses the crisis.

Instead he was in Vermont criticizing the Democrats. Did you see the tweets from his account today?

[Demsrule86]

19. Well I am sure his show or whatever the hell it is will be completely useless...campaign is over

Bernie...get out and stop helping Trump.

[Demsrule86]

23. He is a GD Senator of course he should be there working on legislation doing his job... the campaign

is over.

[NCProgressive]

42. Bernie complains but doesn't produce any program that he would like

that is reasonable.

It is "everything sucks the way it is" or "give everyone a zillion dollars to make it right"

Reasonable bills get heard and passed. Why doesn't he form a group of cosponsors, hammer out legislation and present it?

[NCProgressive]

59. How is he going to help sitting in Vermont, streaming programs no one is watching

except his devotees?

[W_HAMILTON]

8. He should have been in Washington telling it to fellow senators...

...instead of playing pretend talk show host on an internet variety show.

Once again, Sanders is demonstrating to the world why he has accomplished nothing for the American people despite three decades in Congress.

[George II]

25. Here's his promotional piece. All it mentions is the musical guests. Who were the expert guests?

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[zackymilly]

28. Bernie doesn't look well in that picture. Anyone seen his medical records? n/t

[grantcart]

34. Priceless

[NCProgressive]

43. lol

[Demsrule86]

31. Typical...something has to be done...not everyone is eligible for unemployment...

You are going to have people starving...food banks are closed...and the layoff in Ohio are horrendous with the big 3 shutting down...get down to Washington and do your damn job. Senator.

[Squinch]

5. Sure. All eyes are on BS.

[W_HAMILTON]

6. I wish Sanders were in Washington helping craft the coronavirus-related legislation...

...that has a midnight deadline set at being written up rather than holding a virtual townhall (with musical guests, for some damn reason) in Vermont about what government SHOULD be doing, but he's not.

[brooklynite]

9. Actuslly, my wife is currently doing more work to craft that legislation...

She’s been working on it all day and will be working more tonight.

As far as the Senate goes, I suspect Schumer will have more clout than Sanders will.

[justhanginon]

10. He'll wait and then then criticize whatever they come up with

as obviously not nearly enough.

[George II]

21. He already has criticized the Democrats, even though he doesn't know what they're working on.

[Cha]

39. he just doesn' learn.

[showblue22]

11. We are in the middle of a world crisis.

Bernie is leaving democrats in the Senate to do the hard work of trying their damnedest to get the best deal for workers and poor people. The Senate has been in session. Bernie came in, voted, and bounced back to Vermont. Now is the time for Bernie to put that legislation where his mouth is. Do you think it's fun to negotiate with republicans? It's hard, grueling. Bernie bounced back to Vermont.

[George II]

22. Then he'll introduce some simple amendment, it'll get passed and he'll take credit for it all.

[showblue22]

24. That's exactly his M.O.

[NurseJackie]

13. LOL

[zonkers]

14. Ahh, the insidious belly laughing smilee, the last resort of the dumbfounded.

[showblue22]

30. I don't know why you would be proud.

Senators are working their ass off through the weekend negotiating with republicans. As you can imagine that is grueling work! People who live check to check need help NOW! Bernie is in Vermont doing podcasts. Shameful.

[NurseJackie]

37. Losing is harder than it looks, apparently.

[grantcart]

36. .

[NurseJackie]

38. LOL

[Demsrule86]

50. Democratic Senators are risking their lives to get a desperately needed bill passed in

the Senate...and where in the world is Bernie? Why he is at home live streaming a 'round table on Coronavirus...pretending that he has information on the Corona virus...and not one medical professional is there...but the squad is there and why there is music! Bless his heart-so special. One wonders how many of the squad will remain in Congress after 2020...all are facing primaries.

[NCProgressive]

61. Some people love getting ridiculed

[Demsrule86]

16. Oh please...who cares...I wouldn't listen to anything Sanders says...he should get the fuck out

and try working his day job...the Senate. He needs to go yesterday...so over him.

[treestar]

17. Neither Biden nor Bernie

Has big power right now. If anything, Bernie has more as a senator. A round table is just talk, no more than a tweet.

[emmaverybo]

20. Joe is doing great and was involved way before Bernie. Now Bernie is compelled to put on a

show. Biden meanwhile developed a plan, has put together an advisory committee, and is talking with leading Dems. Of course he has some background and experience in this area.

Bernie should be doing his job.

[BlueIdaho]

26. If Bernie wants to show his leadership skills

He might think about dropping by the Senate and lending a hand. His grandstanding on social media is pointless. He could be putting his shoulder to the wheel making sure poor people get an even shake in the final bill working its way through Congress. That is his day job.

His bid for the Presidency is over. It’s time for him to face that reality and turn his mind to his constituents back home.

[brooklynite]

27. I'll observe that nobody summarized the vital information contained in this program

[W_HAMILTON]

29. Also, here is what Biden has been doing while Sanders is playing talk show host on the internet:

Link to tweet

[Cha]

44. Thank you for this, HAMILTON! ReTweeted!

Link to tweet

Stay Safe!

[StarfishSaver]

32. Your concern is noted

[Indykatie]

33. A Guy Who's Not Winning on Electability Needs to Get Out the Race n/t

[beastie boy]

40. Winning the battle of ideas? Is a live sream the weapon that is winning the battle of ideas?

if Joe not Bernie live streams tomorrow, would that win him the battle of ideas, just like that?

A related question: when you are running for elected office, what signifies a victory in the battle of ideas if not electability?

[SunsetDreams2]

41. Bernie

Biden with insurmountable lead in delegates ...check

Bernie losing the Democratic Nomination ... check

Bernie refusing to concede ... check

Bernie running back to Washington ... check

Bernie “hey look at me” ... check

Senator Bernie... doing podcasts instead of working to you know actually do something ... check

Bernie...playing politics with Corona Virus to you know hopefully save his campaign

Much like you did with your OP trying to compare him to Joe Biden...as if Joe Biden is not doing anything important. Only Bernie.

Stop playing politics with this Corona Virus,

[Cha]

46. Excellent check list, Sunset Dreams! Guess who's one

of the last people I want to look at unless he's conceding? Check!

Stop playing politics with this Corona Virus,

EXACTLY! StaySafe!

[SunsetDreams2]

47. It's irritating Cha

It doesn’t take a Rocket scientist to see what’s going on here. It reminds me of what happened late in the General of 2008 with someone running back to Washington to say “hey look at me”.

[NCProgressive]

45. Biden is the one winning the so called and mythical "battle of ideas"

and demonstrably so.

[Gothmog]

48. How do you do a round table with no medical experts?

Link to tweet

[Demsrule86]

49. Compelling? I doubt it very much...go back to the Senate and do your job Sanders.

[elleng]

53. Joe is doing his own thing, which is fine and good, AND

it seems to me the Bernie round table event occurred yesterday/Sunday when folks here were moaning and groaning how DARE he not be @ the senate, OMG!

I'm glad they're both working, in their own ways.

[Hortensis]

54. Sanders has purchased time for an obscure online program

to keep his name out there to a coterie of true believers, ie., Sanders' LW "base."

Skipping doing the job his state elected him to do while trying to keep his followers from straying may be leadership, but it's not good, responsible leadership.

Sanders is a U.S. senator. He should being USING that power to serve his nation as he's supposed to.

As for Sanders' ideas, come on. They've always been rejected, and they've been rejected yet again.
You shouldn't be surprised. Most people know we can once again have what we want and need under our current system. We need what we inherited to be managed properly again.

[BlueIdaho]

55. Wish Bernie would show up in DC and do his job.

He supposedly represents Vermonters - instead he’s doing his impression of Don Kirchner’s Midnight Special...

[Peregrine Took]

56. What can I say? This is something we've known for a long time.

Bernie is the man!

[NCProgressive]

60. ...

[zonkers]

64. He sure is. I know Biden will 99.9% get the nom. And we're all going to enthusiastically vote for

him... but to continuously bash Bernie after all he has achieved in moving this country to the left. jeez. It's vile. Maybe you don't think so. Frankly, I thought it was a violation of DU policy to talk smack a against a democratic candidate. This is obviously not the case. BTW, the Bern Man not even my first choice as a candidate -- Warren was. I like Bernie. And I like Joe. But I don't like bullies. And I only switched my candidate preference to Bernie after I saw all the attacks on him. And from Duers I have seen on these boards for years. If y'all have a problem with Bernie not folding his tent and shutting the dhow down, then blame the DNC and their rules. Otherwise, respect the effen process. He is still technically a democratic candidate in contention for the nomination and has every right to stay in the race. I really have to think some of the heightened vitriol around here is due to the anxiety related to pandemic crisis.

[NCProgressive]

57. Sanders' "round table" had 4000 viewers at the beginning and 2000 remained after half was over.

Shows no one cares about Sanders and what he does anymore.

[The Magistrate]

71. As A Matter Of Curiousity, Sir

What is the source for those numbers? I have seen similar figures a time or two, but have no idea how they are derived.

[NCProgressive]

72. There are web traffic accumulators out there

They poll DNS servers and various search engines for http (or https) requests to a site. With a subscription to sites like Alexa, ahrefs etc. one can even tell how much traffic came from PCs vs mobile devices. One can also get a breakdown of where the traffic came from - down to postal code granularity.

One can also get historical numbers going back as much as 3 years.

[The Magistrate]

73. Thank You, Sir

Good to know they are solid.

[SiliconValley_Dem]

58. Why isn't Sanders in DC voting?

[Kingofalldems]

62. Not gonna work.

[Hortensis]

63. A U.S. senator should not be skipping out on his duties

his duties to try to keep his followers from straying. He should do both if he feels he must, but never just the one.

Sanders is technically on SIX committees, and if none of them miss his presence because he's very seldom there anyway, that's never an excuse for not showing up to work and doing what he was sent to the senate for .

I wonder, though, if Sanders was even welcome. He has a history of hijacking events, even some he was specifically asked not to attend, by pushing in front of the cameras to "bern" their message to him. And Ocasio at least has been distancing from him.

[NurseJackie]

65. He needs to be neutered. Going forward, NO committee or chair assignments.

If he's an "ally" then he needs to start acting like one. If he cannot act like one, if he cannot get with the program... then we need to stop affording him certain honors, assignments, privileges. I think that's a perfectly reasonable condition to make. There's nothing wrong with setting minimum standards and having higher expectations.

"Not me. Us." Uh-huh. Yeah right. Just another quickly forgotten and abandoned bumper sticker slogan.

[Hortensis]

66. :) Not that I don't agree with the spirit, but he's SELF-neutered

in the senate. Officially removing him from committees would seriously not be worth the bother. He has no power -- a result of his extremism and incompetence, is seldom there, and apparently spends most of his time when he is either silent or effectively insisting all the people who don't think "only he can fix it" are wrong. Tedious. Especially when he normally votes Democrat anyway with reelection in mind.

"Not me, us." It could be a slogan with the right spirit, just unfortunately adopted by someone incapable of leading "us."

[Vivienne235729]

67. So you think Joe is just sittin around twiddlin his thumbs? Reallly?!?!!

Joe may have things to do....like preparing for a general election and deciding/vetting who will be his veep and his cabinet. And quite honestly, OrangeAnus has NO ONE manning a million positions so Joe is going to have to jump in and hire nearly a whole damn government. That's a shit ton of work. And since it's just a clusterfuck, he'll need to do it pretty quickly too. Joe Biden will be held to a very different standard. So he is probably taking the time to get his ducks in a row.

[zonkers]

68. I posted this 4 days ago. Biden was MIA. But to you and others, don't let that get in the way of a

good rant. Jeez.

[Vivienne235729]

69. Even if you posted that 1 hr ago and we haven't seen Biden, my post still stands.

As the presumptive nominee, he's STILL got a lot on his plate.

[William769]

70. Joe couldn't get a band, so he decided to get experts instead.