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TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 03:34 PM Mar 2020

I shall repost this comment about Bernie that may have been lost...

in almost 240 posts in that other thread.


233. Alas, Bernie should be bashed to extremes-- he has no interest whatsoever in anything...

but the further aggrandizement of Bernie and his '60s politics. And not the best part of '60s politics, to be sure. Just the laughable parts-- all of his talk about justice and equality has been approached by actual attempts at social justice by others, but then scorned by him as not good enough.

He did his best to screw Hillary's chances in the general when he refused to get out and campaign for her until two or three small mumbles just before the election.

He has spent around 30 years in Congress without one significant legislative accomplishment or any coalition building. He uses the Democratic party as a backdoor to campaigning, since he spends the rest of his time complaining about it. He knows perfectly well that he is incapable of building even the semblance of a third party with his crew of whining brats, and is perfectly aware of the history of third parties in American politics even if he could get one off the ground.

So, why should any Democrat who has been out getting petition signatures, paying for campaigns, or doing any of the myriad things party members of all sorts do every year (as opposed to every four years) give Bernie the time of day?

This is his absolutely last and final shot to be anything but a tiny asterisk in the history books, and he will not give up easily, but we are voting for the future of the nation, not for balm for Bernie's hurt feelings and dead dreams.

He should just shut up and step aside, allowing for unity to get rid of Trump. His betters in the primary season have already done that. Harris, Warren, Klobuchar, Mayor Pete, even Bloomberg, are among those who have the skills and essentials to beat Trump and do the job of President, but they all stepped back to back Biden and support unity and beating Trump.

All but one, who has to be the outlier and the oilcan that dropped into the works.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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I shall repost this comment about Bernie that may have been lost... (Original Post) TreasonousBastard Mar 2020 OP
Nailed it. I couldn't agree more. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #1
And I shall K'n'R. ucrdem Mar 2020 #2
I would like Sanders's supporters to once and for all state who they will vote for in November. sop Mar 2020 #3
The longer he waits the worse he will be treated by the party and all of us. redstatebluegirl Mar 2020 #5
There is no monolithic group of Sanders supporters, nor do they have official "representation." thesquanderer Mar 2020 #11
BS and a possible 'hold' on the Senate bill? empedocles Mar 2020 #4
Some of Bernie's supporters need to splash their faces with ice-cold water, NCProgressive Mar 2020 #6
KR mcar Mar 2020 #7
That's why it's important we continue to showblue22 Mar 2020 #8
A great post! Thanks for turning it into an OP. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #9
K&R Just_Vote_Dem Mar 2020 #10
K&R betsuni Mar 2020 #12
So true...thanks! K&R Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #13
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(120,478 posts)
1. Nailed it. I couldn't agree more.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 03:38 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ucrdem

(15,702 posts)
2. And I shall K'n'R.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 03:38 PM
Mar 2020

Sorry that it took a pandemic to finally dislodge our Independent co-traveler but that's life in the time of coronavirus, I guess!



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sop

(11,093 posts)
3. I would like Sanders's supporters to once and for all state who they will vote for in November.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 03:50 PM
Mar 2020

No more equivocation, no more uncertainty, no more "we might do this or we might do that, depending on how Bernie is treated." Will the people who support Sanders vote for the Democratic nominee, Donald Trump, a third party candidate or will they just stay home?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

redstatebluegirl

(12,474 posts)
5. The longer he waits the worse he will be treated by the party and all of us.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 04:06 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

thesquanderer

(12,326 posts)
11. There is no monolithic group of Sanders supporters, nor do they have official "representation."
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 05:13 PM
Mar 2020

Last edited Thu Mar 26, 2020, 12:18 PM - Edit history (1)

So there is no one to answer your question. (I assuming you're not looking for 10 million answers from 10 million people... and if you are, I'm afraid only the tiniest percentage of them are here on DU.)

But if history is any guide, I think it safe to assume that somewhere between roughly 75% and 90% of them will vote for the Dem nominee (Biden), and the rest will do one of the other things you mentioned.

Some interesting relevant stats here:

https://www.npr.org/2017/08/24/545812242/1-in-10-sanders-primary-voters-ended-up-supporting-trump-survey-finds

Like, a study showed that 12% of 2016 Sanders voters voted for Trump, while there was also a study that showed that 25% of 2008 Hillary voters voted for McCain over Obama. Go figure...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
4. BS and a possible 'hold' on the Senate bill?
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 03:51 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
6. Some of Bernie's supporters need to splash their faces with ice-cold water,
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 04:11 PM
Mar 2020

stretch, drink a triple espresso, shake their head violently, wake up and open their eyes to reality.

(An additional "what the hell was I thinking?" would be good but not essential.)

I know many Bernie supporters on DU have already come to this realization - kudos to them and kudos to unity!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

showblue22

(1,026 posts)
8. That's why it's important we continue to
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 04:15 PM
Mar 2020

campaign against him in the most aggressive way we can.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
9. A great post! Thanks for turning it into an OP.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 04:23 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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