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EarlG

(22,518 posts)
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 01:57 PM Dec 2022

Testers Check-In Thread, Test 2 -- 12/12/22

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Testers Check-In Thread, Test 2 -- 12/12/22 (Original Post) EarlG Dec 2022 OP
I'm here! Ocelot II Dec 2022 #1
Back again! Yeah! hlthe2b Dec 2022 #2
Hello from calimary! calimary Dec 2022 #3
Checking in malaise Dec 2022 #4
Had to remember how to get here but found it BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #5
I'm here Omaha Steve Dec 2022 #6
Hi everyone sheshe2 Dec 2022 #7
I am very happy to be back! I'll be checking things out today. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2022 #8
Hello. underpants Dec 2022 #9
Checking in! Lithos Dec 2022 #10
Testing... kentuck Dec 2022 #11
Info and Trash are offset to the right. Glad Spell check is gone. underpants Dec 2022 #12
I think that is nothing to worry about, per se EarlG Dec 2022 #16
Never mind, someone else reported this happening elsewhere EarlG Dec 2022 #24
👍 underpants Dec 2022 #25
here. mopinko Dec 2022 #13
Hello Renew Deal Dec 2022 #14
I'm in. GP6971 Dec 2022 #15
Checking in 2.0.. Cha Dec 2022 #17
Hello again! dalton99a Dec 2022 #18
I am here - first time I am checking out DU4. Looks great. NewHendoLib Dec 2022 #19
I'm here. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2022 #20
Howdy, joining you all in the checking out of du4 uppityperson Dec 2022 #21
A bit late to the party, but here. babylonsister Dec 2022 #22
Just a small item... kentuck Dec 2022 #23
Botany Botany Dec 2022 #26
If you're here, just use DU as you normally would EarlG Dec 2022 #27
'lo bigtree Dec 2022 #28
Checking in! Mr. Scorpio Dec 2022 #29
Checking in KS Toronado Dec 2022 #30
One picture on my signature line disappeared, always there with DU3 KS Toronado Dec 2022 #31
What device and browser are you using? EarlG Dec 2022 #33
H/P desktop computer with 20" screen, running latest windows software, FireFox browser KS Toronado Dec 2022 #34
Hmm, when I resize the window down to test this EarlG Dec 2022 #38
Done that Earl, didn't help KS Toronado Dec 2022 #39
I'm still seeing the broken link in your sig EarlG Dec 2022 #40
I'm getting confused Earl KS Toronado Dec 2022 #41
Curious... EarlG Dec 2022 #43
This is strange , we are both seeing things the other one isn't KS Toronado Dec 2022 #44
I saw your post in MIRT EarlG Dec 2022 #47
OK, that makes sense now KS Toronado Dec 2022 #50
Hello. Checking in. Judi Lynn Dec 2022 #32
Bug report KS Toronado Dec 2022 #35
Am I overlooking it? kentuck Dec 2022 #36
Just click the site logo any time to get to the home page EarlG Dec 2022 #37
First time we tested DU4 KS Toronado Dec 2022 #49
Still here, still no bugs NT Warpy Dec 2022 #42
Working fine malaise Dec 2022 #45
Could not post a video?? kentuck Dec 2022 #46
How were you trying to post the video? EarlG Dec 2022 #48
Testing image and video linking as I typically do, if this helps at all.. hlthe2b Dec 2022 #51

Ocelot II

(120,474 posts)
1. I'm here!
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 03:44 PM
Dec 2022

hlthe2b

(106,075 posts)
2. Back again! Yeah!
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 03:53 PM
Dec 2022

A bit of change in the look--more colorful, I note!

calimary

(84,134 posts)
3. Hello from calimary!
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 04:00 PM
Dec 2022

I’m already confused, but hey, let’s try it anyway!

malaise

(277,760 posts)
4. Checking in
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 04:01 PM
Dec 2022

DU4 is pleasing to the eyes

BumRushDaShow

(141,454 posts)
5. Had to remember how to get here but found it
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 04:02 PM
Dec 2022


(am logged in with my MIRT credentials as FYI)

ETA - just tested the recommend post feature on malaise.

Omaha Steve

(103,283 posts)
6. I'm here
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 04:09 PM
Dec 2022

I'll do my best to test this.

sheshe2

(87,194 posts)
7. Hi everyone
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 04:27 PM
Dec 2022
I am here.
I like the highlight🙂

CaliforniaPeggy

(151,917 posts)
8. I am very happy to be back! I'll be checking things out today. n/t
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 04:29 PM
Dec 2022

underpants

(186,408 posts)
9. Hello.
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 04:50 PM
Dec 2022

Lithos

(26,449 posts)
10. Checking in!
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 05:19 PM
Dec 2022

Here!

kentuck

(112,630 posts)
11. Testing...
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 06:56 PM
Dec 2022

1-2...Testing 1-2

underpants

(186,408 posts)
12. Info and Trash are offset to the right. Glad Spell check is gone.
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 07:28 PM
Dec 2022

The buttons are bigger but Rec’ing is going to take some adjustment for a lot of people. I see that it’s red. It’ll just take an adjustment.

EarlG

(22,518 posts)
16. I think that is nothing to worry about, per se
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 09:22 PM
Dec 2022

I believe it's to do with the fact that this particular forum is a bit of a weird outlier. Because this forum is restricted for semi-private use there are certain blocks in place -- for example, threads in here can't be recommended -- but we forgot that we needed to implement those restrictions until we were right on the verge of testing, so we sort of "brute forced" some solutions in this particular forum that wouldn't apply in other forums. I suspect that is what has caused the issue.

FWIW, this seems to be only a Skinner Mode issue. I should be able to fix it, but my guess is that you're not seeing the same issue in the other public forums like GD or LBN -- would that be correct?

(Also, this is fine for now but if you could post future bug reports as a separate thread, that would be helpful -- thanks.)

EarlG

(22,518 posts)
24. Never mind, someone else reported this happening elsewhere
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 08:35 AM
Dec 2022

I'll look into it.

underpants

(186,408 posts)
25. 👍
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 08:39 AM
Dec 2022

mopinko

(71,687 posts)
13. here.
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 07:28 PM
Dec 2022

Renew Deal

(82,898 posts)
14. Hello
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 09:02 PM
Dec 2022

GP6971

(32,789 posts)
15. I'm in.
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 09:05 PM
Dec 2022

Looking good so far.

Cha

(304,940 posts)
17. Checking in 2.0..
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 09:41 PM
Dec 2022

Getting ready to try it out..

Thank You and Elad!

dalton99a

(84,074 posts)
18. Hello again!
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 09:50 PM
Dec 2022

NewHendoLib

(60,465 posts)
19. I am here - first time I am checking out DU4. Looks great.
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 10:09 PM
Dec 2022

greatauntoftriplets

(176,769 posts)
20. I'm here.
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 11:27 PM
Dec 2022

Had a lot going on earlier so I'm late to the party.

uppityperson

(115,827 posts)
21. Howdy, joining you all in the checking out of du4
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 11:38 PM
Dec 2022

babylonsister

(171,570 posts)
22. A bit late to the party, but here.
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 05:05 AM
Dec 2022

And now I will take a look around the remodel.

Already I see we have the option of just posting...thank you!

kentuck

(112,630 posts)
23. Just a small item...
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 07:52 AM
Dec 2022

The "Recommend" button is a bit confusing. It shows up as "Rec'd", after it has been recommended? The colored button was preferable, in my opinion.

Botany

(72,360 posts)
26. Botany
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 08:59 AM
Dec 2022

What do I need to do? This high tech stuff scares me.

EarlG

(22,518 posts)
27. If you're here, just use DU as you normally would
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 09:27 AM
Dec 2022

The idea is to just cruise around and use DU as you normally would, and see if you spot anything that you think might be broken.

In theory (heh) you shouldn't have any trouble using DU4. The look is different, and there are some changes to the main site navigation, but really not that much has changed.

Use the big blue "Navigate" button at the top left to make your way around the top-level pages (Latest, Greatest, and the new Latest Videos page) as well as the busiest forums (LBN, GD, The Lounge), and all the smaller forums in the new categories (Issue Forums, Culture Forums, etc.)

Meanwhile the big blue "My Stuff" button at the top right will show you the pages which are specific to you when you're logged in. So that would be things like Profile, Bookmarks, Subscriptions, Posts, Inbox, Account Settings, etc.

Finally, clicking the site logo at the top of the page will take you to the home page.

Almost everything else should be roughly in the same place that you're used to seeing it. For example, if you want to reply to a post, the reply link is still in the bottom right corner of the post.

If you have any specific questions about anything you're seeing, please let me know.

Thanks!

bigtree

(90,026 posts)
28. 'lo
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 10:49 AM
Dec 2022

Mr. Scorpio

(73,709 posts)
29. Checking in!
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 11:52 AM
Dec 2022

I'm finally here

KS Toronado

(19,475 posts)
30. Checking in
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 05:37 PM
Dec 2022

KS Toronado

(19,475 posts)
31. One picture on my signature line disappeared, always there with DU3
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 05:44 PM
Dec 2022
...

EarlG

(22,518 posts)
33. What device and browser are you using?
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 08:03 PM
Dec 2022

DU4 uses a responsive layout -- on smaller screens, the site automatically shrinks to fit. Sig lines have fixed heights (we don't want people creating super-tall sig lines) so on smaller screens, the right side of the sig will get cut off. FWIW, I can see your full sig line on my screen.

KS Toronado

(19,475 posts)
34. H/P desktop computer with 20" screen, running latest windows software, FireFox browser
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 01:25 AM
Dec 2022

EarlG

(22,518 posts)
38. Hmm, when I resize the window down to test this
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 11:29 AM
Dec 2022

there's like a tiny gap of just a few pixels in between when the layout switches from "desktop" to "laptop" where your sig line is juuust too big and the image cuts off. Your monitor size must happen to fall right in that tiny gap.

Try something for me... there's a broken image link in your sig line in between the Trump gif and the "Give the vote back..." button. This is the broken image link:

media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2022/03/01/220302presidentzelensky1619304665.jpg

(It has https:// at the start but if I include that it will try to embed the image and you won't be able to see the link.)

Try removing that from your sig line and see if it changes anything.

KS Toronado

(19,475 posts)
39. Done that Earl, didn't help
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 01:27 PM
Dec 2022

Even got rid of a couple " s thinking that might help, wonder if the vote meme got corrupted somehow?
But then again it shows up on DU3, so that's probably not an issue.

EarlG

(22,518 posts)
40. I'm still seeing the broken link in your sig
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 01:54 PM
Dec 2022

It looks like you are trying to link three images, but the middle one is missing. I think it's supposed to be a Zelensky image but it's showing up as a missing image marker.

Is that the image you tried removing?

I've posted an image of your sig line code below (the code won't display correctly if I write it into a post as text). This is what I'm seeing:



The code highlighted in blue is the broken image, that's the part you should try removing from your sig.

KS Toronado

(19,475 posts)
41. I'm getting confused Earl
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 02:51 PM
Dec 2022

The Zelensky one or middle one is showing, I wasn't wanting to get rid of that one just reclaim the "Give the
vote back to the people" "Abolish the electoral college" one, the last one. I don't understand how it can be
a "broken image" if it's being displayed. Or am I seeing it and you're not? I see donnie in jail and Zelensky,
I don't see https.........6gc6u7,jpg

EarlG

(22,518 posts)
43. Curious...
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 03:32 PM
Dec 2022

I'm also confused, lol. It seems like you're seeing the image and I'm not.



I've pasted the link to the image above. I assume you see a picture there? But for me, it's displaying as a "broken image" marker, like one of these:



If I paste the image link directly into my browser, I get sent to a warning page:

Your connection is not private

Attackers might be trying to steal your information from media.timesfreepress.com (for example, passwords, messages, or credit cards).

NET::ERR_CERT_DATE_INVALID

media.timesfreepress.com normally uses encryption to protect your information. When Chrome tried to connect to media.timesfreepress.com this time, the website sent back unusual and incorrect credentials. This may happen when an attacker is trying to pretend to be media.timesfreepress.com, or a Wi-Fi sign-in screen has interrupted the connection. Your information is still secure because Chrome stopped the connection before any data was exchanged.

You cannot visit media.timesfreepress.com right now because the website uses HSTS. Network errors and attacks are usually temporary, so this page will probably work later.

I don't think this is anything nefarious, I'm pretty sure it's happening because there's an issue with the https at the start of the link. The error message implies that the site's SSL certificate needs to be updated. But I don't know why I'm getting this error and you aren't. I'd be interested to know if others can see it though. If they can't, you might want to host the image elsewhere.

Anyway... If you want to keep this image then none of this really solves the problem. I have another idea which I'll try in a bit.

KS Toronado

(19,475 posts)
44. This is strange , we are both seeing things the other one isn't
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 12:27 AM
Dec 2022

The Zelensky one above is the one I could always see OK, I PM'ed Sheltielover and asked what she sees
using DU3, she only seen the trump in jail so I trashed the above picture and found a new Zelensky one.
Did an O/T in MIRT asking for eyeballs, herding cats replied with screen shots of DU3 & DU4, DU4 shows
all 3 images but DU3 only shows 2. Wonder if other people are having a similar problem and are aware
what they're seeing on their pages are different from what other people are seeing?
BTW, the 2 white circles (vote/college) is one image, you probably knew that.

https://du4.democraticunderground.com/1244536182

And here's another wrinkle, the O/T (above link) were I asked for eyeballs, on my original post I can see
all three, but below where I thanked people for their help, I can see only 2, Zelensky is missing again.
All I can do is I'm using DU4.

On Edit: just for grins since I had an open DU3 tab, I looked at above link and I can see all 3 in my post & 3 replies,
using DU3, strange very strange.

EarlG

(22,518 posts)
47. I saw your post in MIRT
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 09:17 PM
Dec 2022

Glad you were able to fix the Zelensky image issue.

As for what you see vs. what others see, the fact is that everyone is going to see DU a bit differently than everyone else, depending on the size of the device they're using. For example, people reading on mobile phones don't even see sig lines at all.

I've done what I can to make sig lines work across different devices, but at the end of the day if you choose to have a very wide sig line, you're taking a chance that it's going to cut off on the right, depending on the size of the screen people are reading on.

My advice would be to create a sig which looks good to you on your screen, but if you can, leave a bit of extra space on the right so it doesn't get cut off when other people look at it.

Maybe you could replace the text at the beginning of your sig with an image instead...



That would save quite a bit of horizontal space and would allow you to add spaces between your images again.

KS Toronado

(19,475 posts)
50. OK, that makes sense now
Fri Dec 16, 2022, 03:05 AM
Dec 2022

Thanks for the education & the blue sign!

Judi Lynn

(162,336 posts)
32. Hello. Checking in.
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 07:02 PM
Dec 2022

KS Toronado

(19,475 posts)
35. Bug report
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 03:05 AM
Dec 2022

H/P desktop, Windows 11, FireFox
Posted a youtube video (

) using DU4, preview looked good but when posting got this message

Query failed: INSERT INTO latest_videos VALUES ('', '1002', '17462321', 'F-aj5G_ZhsY', NOW() )

Opened a window tab in DU3, no problem, got it posted. Use this thread for bug reports?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217462323

On edit: LOL, blew up what I had between (...)s, wouldn't allow me earlier.

kentuck

(112,630 posts)
36. Am I overlooking it?
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 07:20 AM
Dec 2022

Is there a link to get to the Homepage from the different Discussion Groups?

EarlG

(22,518 posts)
37. Just click the site logo any time to get to the home page
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 08:49 AM
Dec 2022

If you want the Latest page, it’s Navigate >> Latest Discussions, or click the Latest Discussions link in the “location trail “ bar at the top of the page.

KS Toronado

(19,475 posts)
49. First time we tested DU4
Fri Dec 16, 2022, 02:52 AM
Dec 2022

I had the same problem kentuck mentioned above, I missed the home page set-up and thought we were
getting rid of it. This go around I discovered clicking on the large DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND would
take me to the home page I was familiar with. Do we need a little "Home Page" sign with an arrow?

Warpy

(113,130 posts)
42. Still here, still no bugs NT
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 03:21 PM
Dec 2022

malaise

(277,760 posts)
45. Working fine
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 06:50 AM
Dec 2022

Hard to use DU3 now😀

kentuck

(112,630 posts)
46. Could not post a video??
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 07:20 PM
Dec 2022

There was no option for posting and also, unable to post the video in the DU Lounge. ??

(edit) I posted in videos on DU3

EarlG

(22,518 posts)
48. How were you trying to post the video?
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 09:20 PM
Dec 2022

On DU4, like on DU3, you can post a video in any forum and in either an OP or a reply by just pasting the URL of a YouTube video into the body of your post.

Is that what you were trying to do, and if so, what happened when you did it?

hlthe2b

(106,075 posts)
51. Testing image and video linking as I typically do, if this helps at all..
Fri Dec 16, 2022, 09:29 AM
Dec 2022

The first directly from Youtube from Firefox using copy link (original source was Twitter, but this was from going to Youtube directly)




The same from the URL for the tweet:




This is an image link from Post.news (format which I didn't expect would work)
https://d2pmpprut4wwdv.cloudfront.net/fit-in/1000x1000/images/2J01EJysKXdwTn3Gb7Koske2jTu

This from WAPO
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=


From Youtube's home page (using the "copy embed code" and then editing off the extraneous stuff at the front and back of the link as I typically do):

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