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Related: About this forumBREAKING: Israeli ground operation in Lebanon appears to have begun, U.S. officials say - The Beat - MSNBC
Israeli officials notified the U.S. that it planned to begin a ground incursion into Lebanon that would be limited in scope, scale and duration, and two U.S. officials tell NBC News that the operation appears to have begun. Foreign Policy Expert David Rothkopf joins MSNBCs Ari Melber. - Aired on 09/30/2024.
regnaD kciN
(26,591 posts)In other words, were invading Lebanon and holding it forever.
Desert Dog
(95 posts)US government should just come out and say.. "The US government has no control over the violence that Israel is perpetrating." None. Zero. "We have expressed our goals for peace and current Israeli regime has no interest in peace." "In fact they have done everything possible to make sure peace is not possible now and won't be possible for years."
It seems more than ever that exploding pager terrorism by Israel was a lure. Hezbollah reacted and now IDF can further escalate with more killing.
Israel has to be the worst ally a country could have. They are pissing off everybody in the region and we are by default their surrogate. Also, they know the political position we are in with the election coming and they are doing everything they can kill more neighbors while we are on the sidelines. Fuck Netanyahu. Why do we even talk about a two state solution? Israel will never want that. They will just keep killing their neighbors and pretend that the cumulative affect of that regional hate will never come to them. They are ready to keep bombing forever? Is that really their solution?
I think the world is sick of it. Maybe Israel just doesn't care? The Hamas attack was a year ago. Gaza is destroyed. Tens of thousand of innocent people are dead. They obviously don't care about the hostages because they get in the way of their ethnic cleansing opportunity. Hostages are just collateral damage and have already been written off. The amazing part to me is Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorist organizations that do terrorism. They deserve to be fought with all focused resources. Israel was not a terrorist organization and at some point needs to transition back to a supposedly peace loving nation. How? Nobody will ever forget the orgy of death they have unleashed.
Netanyahu is using our election position to kill and destabilize the middle east. After Harris wins, our Israel policy changes 180 degrees. Bibi wanted Trump so he could do whatever he wants for the next 4 years. Sorry weasel. You bet wrong - I pray. Time for the cash payments and weapons to stop. Israel is a crappy friend that thinks they can interfere with US elections. If Israel only understands extreme punishment, then we should meet their expectation with sanctions etc.
We might not be able to stop them, but the world needs to know that they are on their own. This is their never ending shit show.
enid602
(9,045 posts)Israel might as well go for broke. Even if it were to accept a ceasefire, theyll never recover their reputation and legacy. Their get out of jail free card has forever expired.
Autumn
(46,295 posts)He's fucking crazy.
Rhiannon12866
(222,124 posts)Autumn
(46,295 posts)Scary times.
Rhiannon12866
(222,124 posts)This is not some sudden-onset mental illness. It's a well-thought out, well-schemed and obviously well-played plan. Ugh.
It's always been about Greater Israel.
Don't believe me? The settlers are already advertising luxury homes in South Lebanon. Now they have a choice between beachfront property in Gaza and mountain retreats in Lebanon.
Meanwhile 100,000 Lebanese have fled to Syria, many more to northern Lebanon. You think they'll be given the Right of Return?
We've seen this movie before.