'The water, the sand, the mixing of the sand and the water': Trump talks nonsense on climate - Velshi - MSNBC

[Rhiannon12866]

Asked about climate change last week, Trump gave a rambling answer about getting “environmental awards” for “the water, the sand, the mixing of the sand and the water.” We’re not really sure what that means, but the Trump administration rolled back environmental protections at every turn. - Aired on 10/20/2024.

[VMA131Marine]

1. For anyone wondering about the real rate of sea level rise

The global average is 0.17 inches (about 1/6th of an inch) per year. That’s double what it was in 1993 and the rate is accelerating.

Global mean sea level is expected to rise 20cm (about 8 inches) by 2050 and by 1 to 4 feet by 2100 depending on how much and how fast we curb GHG emissions. 4 feet of rise will inundate large parts of Florida.

[Rhiannon12866]

3. Thank you!

And didn't TFG say that this is a good thing because it will elicit more waterfront property??

[MadameButterfly]

4. Trump keeps showing that he doesn't know what he's talking about

and his attempts to fake it are screamingly transparent. We shouldn't have to convince people he's in cognitive decline to disqualify him.

I'm trying to imagine a job interviewer anywhere that would hire him if politics were not at play.

Obama almost lost re-election because his first interview with Romney was a little sleepy. (Not my opinion, but the media analysis), and Gore for sighing and shaking his head too much against W. Howard Dean's political career ended with a scream that was edited to eliminated the crowd that drowned him out at the actual event. Gary Hart's career ended on a boat named "Monkey business" when a woman dropped into his lap and a photographer was ready to snap a shot. Rachel Maddow years later reported that the whole thing had been staged by right wingers.

Yet nothng touches Trump. Remember Reagan, the tefon president?

I don't know if Trump's followers are so bored with policy and immune to the content of his speeches that nothing he says matters, or if they are just so mad about life that anything to own the libs is worth it, or if they are so ignorant and jaded about democracy that they genuinely believe it will get better under an autocracy.

And I wonder if Trump is just bumbling as best he can with ever more limited faculties, or if he is seeing how far he can go because it's a trip to be able to get his lemmings to go along with ANYHTING? Or if had has a whole strategic game plan taught to him in his private meetings with Putin on how to scam people into giving up their power...

There is a fundamental problem when one party has standards for their nominee and the other doesn't. And then the resulting chasm in quality of candidate still gets us a 50/50 split. We must do something about this. Somehow people need to learn, to have enough hope, to release the anger and vote for their lives. If we can't do it now, I don't know when...

[Rhiannon12866]

5. Very well stated and I agree with everything you said.

And I've thought of Howard Dean's "whoop!" and Obama's debate with Romney often in the past few weeks - but there is absolutely no comparison to a candidate who is a convicted felon, guilty of sexual assault, stole classified documents which jeopardized national security - and attempted to overturn the government because he lost the election! Good Grief, what does it take to disqualify him???

[MadameButterfly]

6. Yeah, I had more faith in our felllow citizens before this

I know from personal experience they aren't bad people--most of them
But for lack of critical thinking skills they have the power to destroy our lives, the country, the planet
and their own lives along wiith it.

My rule is, if you think autocarcy is a good idea try it now. Don't vote. Experiene what it's like not to have a say.. If you don't think it's important to be able to vote in the future, don't vote now. I don't think they'd hear me, if I could reach them.

[Rhiannon12866]

7. I really don't get it, what happened to "the party of Lincoln," or even "the party of Reagan??"

While I was not a fan of Reagan, what's going on now with this insane support of a convicted felon is the opposite of much of what Reagan believed and supported. Reagan embraced and supported immigrants to this country, was extremely tough on Russia ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!) and joined the other living former presidents, Carter and Ford, in supporting President Clinton's 1994 Assault Weapons Ban. How can a lawless convicted felon cause "the party of small government" to choose an aspiring dictator instead??

And I'm listening to Liz Cheney's book again in my car. She goes into details and names names - Kevin McCarthy, Gym Jordan, Mike Johnson - of those who supported TFG's refusal to accept the results of the 2020 election for the first time in our history. TFG has no loyalties, will turn on anyone for any reason, and wants to turn this democracy into a country that he governs according to his own selfish whims. I really don't get it - and understand even less why any American - who must have studied history in school - would choose to vote for an aspiring dictator like the ones we defeated in two world wars.

[MadameButterfly]

8. The Republican party stopped being the party of Lincoln around the turn

of the cenutury. Teddy Roosevelt. a Republican, was a Progresssive, and by the time of FDR, Democrats were liberal and Republicans conservatives were Reuplicans.. Nixon cemented that with his Southern strategy which turned Southern Democrats Republican. It was Reagan who said "government is the problem". He set the stage for waht has followed.