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Rhiannon12866

(222,884 posts)
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 09:50 PM Nov 16

'Hold the line': Nobel laureate says Americans should learn from the Philippines' experience - Velshi - MSNBC



Donald Trump’s conduct is straight out of the same strongman playbook that others have used, and his presidential victory is part of a recent global trend of illiberal leaders being elected democratically. “We’re seeing the ‘Philippinization’ of America,” says the Filipina journalist and Nobel Peace Prize laureate Maria Ressa.

“Look at our experience for what’s coming up in the days ahead,” she adds, cautioning that what could happen in America has already occurred in other countries like the Philippines. There may be tough times ahead, but she advises that people should “hold the line” and “stay committed to [their] values.” - Aired on 11/16/2024.

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'Hold the line': Nobel laureate says Americans should learn from the Philippines' experience - Velshi - MSNBC (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Nov 16 OP
I'm living her example in the Philippines Pototan Nov 16 #1
Wow! Thank you for sharing your experience Rhiannon12866 Nov 16 #2
Just for context Pototan Nov 16 #3
Going with the popular vote is still more democratic than the antiquated Electoral College Rhiannon12866 Nov 16 #4
... Rhiannon12866 Nov 17 #5

Pototan

(2,058 posts)
1. I'm living her example in the Philippines
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 11:20 PM
Nov 16

I arrived here toward the tail end of the Duterte administration. I live just outside the City of Iloilo. It just so happens that the Island of Panay, the City of Iloilo and the: Province of Iloilo voted two thirds for Marcos Jr.'s progressive opponent, even though Marcos Jr. won overwhelmingly nationwide. I was fearful of Ferdinand Marcos Jr., having been historically familiar with his father. I have been pleasantly surprised by his administration and by him.

I have found the Philippines to be relatively free and Democratic, with a relatively free press. I've seen in the Manla Times criticism of Marcos and his positions as well as praise. The courts have reversed many of the political cases brought by Duterte, including every case so far against Maria Ressa that was brought under the Duterte regime. I do not follow social media, and DU is the only place I give my political opinion.

Culturally, the Filipino's frown upon foreigners (Kanos) voicing their opinions of Philippine politics. I was warned before I got here by my wife, "do not, under any circumstance, give your opinion about the Philippine government, pro or con". And Filipinos are not very interested in American politics.

So, the only place I can give my opinion is here at DU because I always follow my wife's advice, especially here in the Philippines.

Rhiannon12866

(222,884 posts)
2. Wow! Thank you for sharing your experience
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 11:27 PM
Nov 16

And it's reassuring to learn that somewhere in the world that freedoms are moving in the right direction. And I sure never thought that we'd have the threat we're now experiencing here in the U.S.

Pototan

(2,058 posts)
3. Just for context
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 11:44 PM
Nov 16

The Philippines has just one six-year term for President. Duterte transferred his power peacefully. The Supreme Court has an independent commission that produces three names to fill a vacancy. The President chooses one of those three names. There is no confirmation. As a result, the Supreme Court acts more independently here than in the US.

The one flaw that I've found in the Philippine Constitution is that, even though they choose their President by popular vote, its winner take all- in a one-time election. In other words, a person can win in a crowded field with 35% or 40%, which was the case with Duterte. There is no runoff. this leaves the country vulnerable to a radical minority candidate winning a 6-year term.

Marcos Jr. won more than 55% of the vote.

Rhiannon12866

(222,884 posts)
4. Going with the popular vote is still more democratic than the antiquated Electoral College
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 11:50 PM
Nov 16

Which has repeatedly disenfranchised millions of voters here in the U.S.

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