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President-elect Donald Trump will face no legal penalties for his conviction in the hush money case, a New York judge ruled. Judge Juan Merchan, however, upheld Trump’s conviction in the case, rejecting the president-elect’s effort to throw out the jury’s verdict because of his reelection. CNN's Paula Reid reports and CNN political analyst Maggie Haberman along with a panel of experts join CNN’s Wolf Blitzer.

bucolic_frolic
(48,689 posts)Last chance for Trump to threaten the judge and show his true colors.
Grins
(8,058 posts)There will be others…!
SCantiGOP
(14,360 posts)Could happen
underpants
(188,697 posts)3Hotdogs
(13,874 posts)Given that, I would support community service. Maybe a day of Anal Fistula picking up litter in a park.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(13,090 posts)Seinan Sensei
(850 posts)pfitz59
(11,321 posts)was the epitome of 'Community Service'. Until the ultimate self-server, Trump arrived on the scene.
Baitball Blogger
(49,222 posts)So, now with the sentencing they'll have to resort to, well, it wasn't bad enough to be jailed.
GreenWave
(10,248 posts)Turbineguy
(38,760 posts)So he has that going for him.
niyad
(122,132 posts)So fucking what??? WE are angry that this piece of filth, hatred, cruelty and ignorance will once again soil the People's House. Frankly, I hope he gets so angry that he strokes out.
tetedur
(1,189 posts)So what is left? A pat on the head? Go and sin no more? HA.
Trump was never going to be held responsible for his crimes. The Supreme Court and the District Courts just had to bend themselves into pretzels to get him off the hook and then all is well until he commits other crimes. But we know ahead of time now, you can charge him, you can convict him but you cannot punish him. He has gotten away with it all his life and he will continue.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(13,090 posts)Bullshit.
rickford66
(5,769 posts)He will have to spend millions trying to avoid the fine.
Justice matters.
(7,906 posts)The Rule of Law is officially DEAD. (for a golfer who has no time to show up?)
Captain Zero
(7,681 posts)And say he can serve it before he takes office or after he leaves?
I heard on LegalAF others could have got 1.25-4 years for this. Why not at least give him 3 days?
Didn't Cohen and Weisselberg get some time for their parts in these crimes? Or was their time for other things?
Justice matters.
(7,906 posts)the upcoming most powerful individual in the world (a convicted felon with no morals and no human qualities).
At least he was convicted 34 times for 34 felonies... and he can't set foot on a number of countries (by their laws).
Mc Mike
(9,181 posts)Ocelot II
(123,002 posts)He was never going to jail, though, and it was always totally unrealistic to think that he ever would. White-collar defendants almost never get jail time unless it's for something pretty extreme, e.g., Bernie Madoff. The actual crimes Trump was convicted of involved the falsification of business records - something hardly anybody goes to jail for. The maximum sentence as a Class E felony is four years in prison and a fine of up to $5,000. However, the exact penalty will depend on a range of factors, including the defendant's criminal history and other circumstances. I found only a couple of cases where the perps got prison sentences - one where a rental car company manager falsified customer rental agreements and one where a CEO altered the company's financial records to reflect false revenue numbers in order to mislead investors and shareholders and boost its stock price. Both of these cases involved financial losses to members of the general public, which might have been a factor in the prison sentences.
Trump certainly deserves more punishment than he's going to get, but the fact that he's very, very angry shows that just the fact of the 34 felony convictions is a significant penalty to him. He will go down in history as the only president inaugurated as a convicted felon and there's not a damn thing he can do about it. The hit to his ego is massive and I love it.
Crowman2009
(2,960 posts)Blappy
(151 posts)He is most definitely guilty after all. No penalty whatsoever is a kick in the groin to the rule of law, to the jurors and to the taxpayers. Absolutely disgusting.
badhair77
(4,753 posts)Katinfl
(294 posts)He was never going to serve any time and it was foolish to ever think he would. I seem to recall hearing that in NY you are not a “convicted” felon until sentencing. Think maybe the judge wants to make the convictions legal and on record, therefore the “sentencing”. This judge is making the statement that the jury found him guilty on all counts and that decision could not/should not be tossed aside. A jury of his peers came to that decision. So it will go down in the history books that we had a convicted felon in the Oval Office, but with no consequences. Go figure. Justice is not equal, but at least he will have received a sentence, however meaningless. I bet the judge will give a pretty rough tongue lashing though. IMO.
usonian
(15,922 posts)THAT SAID, there's a certain irony in this.
The core belief of maga is cruelty.
Make others suffer.

And if this triggers the Malicious Mandarin even more, great.
Schadenfreude post here:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19863580
THIS SHOULD CHEER YOU UP.
usaf-vet
(7,263 posts)Slanting the announcement....... were the first words out of her mouth.
pfitz59
(11,321 posts)The charges don't go away. He just doesn't serve time. Still a felon. No exoneration.
LetMyPeopleVote
(158,344 posts)Bristlecone
(10,605 posts)no_hypocrisy
(50,216 posts)TWO. Trump got away with murder as far as punishment. Instead of being relieved, he's "very angry" because he's been held accountable, and on The Record, for not one, but 38 felonies. It's one thing to go bankrupt, but it was the money of banks, not him personally, that lost the money. It's another thing to be publicly humiliated and to not present a perfect, stellar image.
THREE. Judge Merchan is out of reach for Trump to exact revenge. THIS has got to bother him more than anything.