Marc Elias answers the question "Was there fraud in this election?"

[Fiendish Thingy]

(Spoiler alert: the answer is NO)

[NJCher]

1. I'm not sure

He satisfactorily answered my question. I am going to have to go over the Duty letters again and then listen to this again.

Is it possible he has not read the Spoonamore Duty letter or is he simply saying that may change when all votes are in? And specifically, are all votes in the swing states in?

I can see that Brian put a good deal of thought into his questions and I appreciate that. He needed to pin Elias down on the anomalies, though, and he didn’t do that.

[Fiendish Thingy]

2. Spoonamore is a kook and a crank and a nutjob.

I’m sure Elias is aware of Spoonamore’s CT, but being the intelligent, rational, reality based person he is, he dismissed it as kooky nonsense, because it is.

[NJCher]

3. That is not my understanding of

Spoonamore. Please provide me with sources that say he is a kook and a nut job.

Also, while you’re at it, why does Spoonamore’s letter have similar points to the other Duty letter? The authors of that letter are not kooks and cranks. So explain that one, too, please.

It’s easy to call names; it’s not so easy substantiate those claims. Let’s see how you do.

I’ll be waiting for your answer.

[Fiendish Thingy]

5. The burden of proof lies with Spoonamore

And so far, no serious person, including Elias, is taking him seriously.

Because he is a kook, trolling for clickbait revenue.

I see little difference between being duped into going down a Spoonamore rabbit hole, and falling for QAnonsense.

[Think. Again.]

7. The possibility of Spoonamore being a "kook" would be a very important apect to all this....

Can you please elaborate on that?

Evidence has been a big part of this discussion, rightfully so, can you provide this important evidence on Spoonamore's known history please?

[Blue Owl]

4. Fiendish Thingy I admire your trust in our election systems

I wish I had your level of faith. Just curious, what is your take on Trump’s claims leading up to the election — claims like “we have the votes already” and “you won’t have to vote again after this election”? I am trying to make sense of what those claims meant if there were no way he could cheat the system….

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[Fiendish Thingy]

6. My take is Trump's comments are not evidence of election fraud.

And that immersing oneself in this conspiracy theory is just avoiding the painful reality that Trump won this election.

The US will be faced with multiple imminent challenges, none of which will have anything to do with these CT’s.

[Think. Again.]

8. Elias seemed to lean more heavily on his need for us simply to not question any election....

...which makes me think that's extremely important to him.

I personally don't agree that just accepting any first-count outcome is more important than getting the outcome results right in the first place.

I think this video would have been far more convincing if Elias had been able to address the actual anamolies, rather than just repeating that we shouldn't ask any questions becuase rightwingers once did that.