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ancianita

(38,879 posts)
5. We on the future forum will need ideas. What will be better. Are
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 07:58 PM
Dec 10

you going to come up with systems that our advanced allies already enact to make the social part of socialism beat that messaging?

walkingman

(8,550 posts)
2. Agree!! It should a top priority for our country, otherwise we might not make it
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 07:49 PM
Dec 10

as a Democracy for much longer.

ancianita

(38,879 posts)
6. Absolutely. We need to convince the country that advanced capitalism will put them at the bottom.
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 08:03 PM
Dec 10

That without democracy they won't ever be in a middle class. The already rich will hang with those who make them richer. WE need to hang with those who will make everyone richer and sell the rich on what the wealthy of our allied nations already know -- that when the rest of the population does well, the rich do well.

The wealthy of other countries laugh at our oligarchs, saying that they'd hate to be the richest in a poor country without jobs and without good infrastructure and manufacturing. That's what the oligarchs of 3rd world nations are content to be.

ancianita

(38,879 posts)
4. So come up with a better idea. Don't just look at the messaging that points to the trainwreck
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 07:55 PM
Dec 10

that will include you.

pat_k

(10,883 posts)
7. Asset/wealth inequality is the bigger driver
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 08:23 PM
Dec 10

of social and economic upheaval.

The concentration of wealth must be mitigated if we are to have a hope in hell creating a functional society.

I think it's time for me to re-read Capital in the Twenty-First Century by Thomas Piketty. As I recall, it clearly laid how obscene and harmful the exponential growth in the concentration of wealth has been, and will continue to be. Our choice is to intervene and reverse it, or keep plummetting toward societal collapse.

ancianita

(38,879 posts)
8. Exactly. Sanders and Biden were on to that. It's the trouble coming with this new administration, too.
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 10:36 PM
Dec 10

Glad you bring up Piketty. Yes, I read both his books, and to state what's become the obvious and accepted standard, he now stands as the best economist since Adam Smith.

Though Piketty proved his rules of economics with data, our right wing cryptotechigarchy don't care.

In the meantime, we still have the economic legacy of The Biden Boom, which invested in American jobs and manufacturing, with a TRILLION invested in hardened supply chains -- including his important middle out/bottom up approach of planting the economic seeds of domestic investments that will pay off over generations.

President Biden did all that over these last four years and laid it out at Brookings, an institution that will recognize his place in American history.




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