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Chris Studio

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33. I'm for

Wed Aug 1, 2018, 06:11 AM

Aug 2018

The Nordic model Dems.... Not the 'actually socialist' Dems.

"Although there are significant differences among the Nordic countries, they all share some common traits. These include support for a "universalist" welfare state aimed specifically at enhancing individual autonomy and promoting social mobility; a corporatist system involving a tripartite arrangement where representatives of labor and employers negotiate wages and labor market policy mediated by the government; and a commitment to widespread private ownership, free markets and free trade."

In the middle to long term our global economy will have to be completely reinvented, but I don't think it will be America leading the way. Ergo I think supporting actual socialists is a dead end.

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Which wing of the Democratic Party do you feel fits you the closest? [View all] Quixote1818 Aug 2018 OP

I personally think of myself as somewhere between Blue Dog & Centrist - However... Algernon Moncrieff Aug 2018 #1

Deadwood? radical noodle Aug 2018 #3

I'm suggesting primaries are part of the political ecological cycle Algernon Moncrieff Aug 2018 #92

I agree with that radical noodle Aug 2018 #96

Baby boomers are dying off vlyons Aug 2018 #11

Yes! FM123 Aug 2018 #58

Hey, I'm 60 RobinA Aug 2018 #88

According to those who track such things, Millenials will be the biggest voting bloc Algernon Moncrieff Aug 2018 #91

I'm a centrist on a few things radical noodle Aug 2018 #2

Libertarian to me seems like an anathema to the Democratic Party. rusty quoin Aug 2018 #4

I think you are absolutely correct! tonyt53 Aug 2018 #51

I would categorize democratic socialist and progressive as pretty much the same thing. RDANGELO Aug 2018 #5

Me too. Liberals, progressives, and democratic socialists want the same things. rusty quoin Aug 2018 #7

I don't really understand the difference between "liberal" and "progressive"... jcgoldie Aug 2018 #6

Let me try. I was confused too. I read an article about a decade ago. rusty quoin Aug 2018 #9

But these days I often see liberals called the establishment, which means working within the betsuni Aug 2018 #20

YOUR definition is spot on. tonyt53 Aug 2018 #54

In the 1980s and 1990s Limbaugh demonized the term 'liberal' appalachiablue Aug 2018 #90

I am in canada. Our wings are to the left of yours. applegrove Aug 2018 #8

Good offering of perspective. This poll seems to suggest Hortensis Aug 2018 #69

Oh we have much in common with the left in the US. I'm just sad we elected applegrove Aug 2018 #93

Democrats are America's big left party, Applegrove, Hortensis Aug 2018 #94

I'm a pragmatist. Centrism, to me, is simply the practical stance struggle4progress Aug 2018 #10

I'm just a Democrat. NanceGreggs Aug 2018 #12

YES ! Of course ! Sinistrous Aug 2018 #15

What she said. Period. Silver Gaia Aug 2018 #21

Out of many, one. n/t ariadne0614 Aug 2018 #29

About 15 years ago, the MSM tried to pin down a friend on this very question DFW Aug 2018 #43

Thank you for saying this! Oh, and "hell YES". tonyt53 Aug 2018 #52

Yes, yes, yes... N_E_1 for Tennis Aug 2018 #57

You speak for me, too. we can do it Aug 2018 #64

I'm with her. nt TeamPooka Aug 2018 #99

It's really unfortunate that Social Democracy and socialism have been conflated. Garrett78 Aug 2018 #13

It varies by the issue Kaleva Aug 2018 #14

Post removed Post removed Aug 2018 #16

Which definition of "liberal" are you using? DetlefK Aug 2018 #17

By "old-timey" do you mean classical? lapucelle Aug 2018 #38

I meant classical. DetlefK Aug 2018 #40

That's the general problems with labels, especially in a country lapucelle Aug 2018 #45

Is it my imagination, or is all this talk about wings of the Democratic Party a new thing? betsuni Aug 2018 #18

yes, it's new Demovictory9 Aug 2018 #26

Thank you. betsuni Aug 2018 #27

No - it's not Algernon Moncrieff Aug 2018 #98

And just in time for the midterms. Squinch Aug 2018 #35

I think the categories are agenda driven in some cases. lapucelle Aug 2018 #44

+1 nt Skidmore Aug 2018 #62

The "ain't no more time for factions" faction Afromania Aug 2018 #19

Excellent post! My thoughts exactly. NT Docreed2003 Aug 2018 #39

Proud socialist here. Voltaire2 Aug 2018 #22

The Democratic wing unc70 Aug 2018 #23

+1 geardaddy Aug 2018 #81

How about"we've got to win" roscoeroscoe Aug 2018 #24

This! Squinch Aug 2018 #32

Because running a bunch of centrists across the country has sure worked out Quixote1818 Aug 2018 #37

yes qazplm135 Aug 2018 #59

Where I live, I'm with the one with a D behind their name who made it on the ballot. herding cats Aug 2018 #25

Well said! While I'm not sure if I'm quite as left as you... WePurrsevere Aug 2018 #36

I'm a democrat plain and simple. blueinredohio Aug 2018 #28

Social Democrats and Democratic Socialists are two different things...nt SidDithers Aug 2018 #30

Indeed Chris Studio Aug 2018 #34

Staaaaaaaaaahp! Squinch Aug 2018 #31

Agreed. Iggo Aug 2018 #87

I'm for Chris Studio Aug 2018 #33

The people's front of judea or the judean people's front? Fullduplexxx Aug 2018 #41

Splitter!! NurseJackie Aug 2018 #46

Ah, Monty Python empedocles Aug 2018 #48

Yes! .... "but you are the messiah and i should know i've followed a few" Fullduplexxx Aug 2018 #50

+1 geardaddy Aug 2018 #79

I see no difference between liberal and socialist. ananda Aug 2018 #42

I would like to congratulate you on posting such a divisive thread Stinky The Clown Aug 2018 #47

+1...nt SidDithers Aug 2018 #49

At least one of these is popping up daily. tonyt53 Aug 2018 #53

True Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2018 #56

+1 nt Skidmore Aug 2018 #61

And misleading poll that in no way actually Hortensis Aug 2018 #63

Showing we have a big tent is divisive? Quixote1818 Aug 2018 #66

Slicing, dicing, labeling, sorting, classifying . . . . Stinky The Clown Aug 2018 #73

I'm from the wing which wants to help people SkyDancer Aug 2018 #55

You left out us vile third way technocratic neoliberal scum Recursion Aug 2018 #60

Democratic Party "factions" as delineated by multiple, agenda-driven Wiki editors. lapucelle Aug 2018 #65

The Democratic Wing. MineralMan Aug 2018 #67

A 2016 version of the Wiki article cited includes "convicted felons" as a part of our base. lapucelle Aug 2018 #68

I'm a Democrat. spicysista Aug 2018 #70

On December 26, 2017, an editorial shift begins with the addition of Democratic Socialist lapucelle Aug 2018 #71

3, 5, 6 n/t demmiblue Aug 2018 #72

I chose progressive. Blue_true Aug 2018 #74

The pragmatic wing Fresh_Start Aug 2018 #75

I'm a Democrat. Trying to fit us into "factions" is divisive The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2018 #76

Oy. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2018 #77

Whoever's getting out the vote. n/t Orsino Aug 2018 #78

Ah...the "Committed to Doing Grunt Work Every Year to Elect Democrats" wing. lapucelle Aug 2018 #80

I am a member of the Democratic Party. This serves only to divide us. Been there done that. 33taw Aug 2018 #82

It is a big tent party. I vote for the most left primary candidate, then enthusiastically GOTV for emulatorloo Aug 2018 #83

other JustAnotherGen Aug 2018 #84

Something with that many wings won't fly brooklynite Aug 2018 #85

Votes for Democrats and Votes in Every Election wing. (n/t) Iggo Aug 2018 #86

Yellow Dog Democrat, every election, all the way down the ballot. VOX Aug 2018 #89

I'm a Democrat! Adrahil Aug 2018 #95

I think these categories are meaningless to an individual Starry Messenger Aug 2018 #97

Im in good company if Im with H2O Man!! JonLP24 Aug 2018 #100

Nooooot playing this game. defacto7 Aug 2018 #101

The Democratic wing is good enough for me. n/t TygrBright Aug 2018 #102