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45. So why don't we talk about Climate Change more?

Tue Nov 13, 2018, 03:04 PM

Nov 2018

She was supporting people who want to bring attention to a world threatening problem. If she is not a third-way, centrist
Democrat, she shouldn't have to act like one. Someone needs to push and make the Democrats more uncomfortable so that we never, ever, get as comfortable as we did in 2016, IMHO. Unless you like doing the same thing over and getting the same results, that is.

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Ocasio Cortez is going to be a problem for our party just watch. [View all] redstatebluegirl Nov 2018 OP

I suspect that the people she represents will rein her in if she goes too far. CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2018 #1

No but protesting at Nancy's office on your first day of orientation says a lot. redstatebluegirl Nov 2018 #3

Did you watch the video of her saying why she was at the protest? Blue_true Nov 2018 #9

Would you give me the synopsis? WhiteTara Nov 2018 #25

Lol. Apparently to DEMAND legislative action on climate change. Hortensis Nov 2018 #65

Oh my, that is definitely being confused. WhiteTara Nov 2018 #71

Right. There's a lot more power inside than out. Hortensis Nov 2018 #75

You are comparing her to Palin? ChubbyStar Nov 2018 #76

no, my dear Chubby WhiteTara Nov 2018 #83

I am not your dear ChubbyStar Nov 2018 #85

Well, alrighty then. WhiteTara Nov 2018 #88

Begging for a fight? ChubbyStar Nov 2018 #92

Here I am, Chubby. The comparison was between Hortensis Nov 2018 #95

Nope. NurseJackie Nov 2018 #93

Come On, Star ProfessorGAC Nov 2018 #184

Demanding something of the incoming Speaker of the House even before she's been sworn in? George II Nov 2018 #106

That was what I was chuckling over. Kinda cute, Hortensis Nov 2018 #117

Who is her mentor? NastyRiffraff Nov 2018 #123

She didn't protest JonLP24 Nov 2018 #149

I don't think it's so much why she was at the protest than that she WAS at the protest. George II Nov 2018 #125

She's already gone too far. kstewart33 Nov 2018 #171

I'm not that worried about it. maxsolomon Nov 2018 #2

Ding-Ding.. disillusioned73 Nov 2018 #8

Who are these "some"? wasupaloopa Nov 2018 #61

Look around... disillusioned73 Nov 2018 #165

You shouldn't keep omitting the ex-Republican connections R B Garr Nov 2018 #145

lol... OK disillusioned73 Nov 2018 #164

That's truly hilarious. The thing in common with anti-Democrat R B Garr Nov 2018 #168

The right sure is attacking her. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2018 #11

That's been reason enough for many here on DU to say Pelosi is a "bad choice." ehrnst Nov 2018 #54

Ooph! NurseJackie Nov 2018 #89

Wait a minute! That's our job! Iggo Nov 2018 #135

The RIGHT is very triggered disillusioned73 Nov 2018 #166

I am not a fan of hers... nycbos Nov 2018 #4

I assume that Pelosi will have a talk with her at some point before January 3rd. Caliman73 Nov 2018 #77

Just about every elected Democrat in Queens is against tax handouts to Amazon BeyondGeography Nov 2018 #5

Not surprised. Some would rather our party do nothing with our new found power Tom Rivers Nov 2018 #26

Republicans are in control of the Senate for at least 2 years , maybe more. octoberlib Nov 2018 #43

No, it forces their hand Tom Rivers Nov 2018 #131

Agree mountain grammy Nov 2018 #138

Hearings on the important things, like climate change will help a lot getting it to the public. Autumn Nov 2018 #175

+1000 Power 2 the People Nov 2018 #60

But those other Democrats don't have Ocasio-Cortez's history, which riles some DUers Jim Lane Nov 2018 #158

Nailed it BeyondGeography Nov 2018 #159

spot on Celerity Nov 2018 #170

Absolutely! Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2018 #172

Ocasio-Cortez Has Some Growing Up to Do dlk Nov 2018 #6

I will keep this post in mind when this goes forward. redstatebluegirl Nov 2018 #12

Kind of like Avenatti nt lillypaddle Nov 2018 #63

I think she needs to learn what can be changed and what probably cannot spooky3 Nov 2018 #155

She is young enough to survive the mistakes YessirAtsaFact Nov 2018 #7

It's often difficult to overcome a bad first impression. comradebillyboy Nov 2018 #35

She makes herself look naive. rogue emissary Nov 2018 #10

I see Independent in her future yes. redstatebluegirl Nov 2018 #13

Thing is, I'm fine with that. rogue emissary Nov 2018 #18

probably so... It might work out better for her if she can't be a collaborative player. hlthe2b Nov 2018 #115

I see rude awakening in her future. GoCubsGo Nov 2018 #192

Maybe she is just brash enough HopeAgain Nov 2018 #14

Well I was in the student movement in the Johnson era and I never went against a redstatebluegirl Nov 2018 #16

How is having a position on Amazon HopeAgain Nov 2018 #20

Not as bad as her being present at the protest at Nancy's office. redstatebluegirl Nov 2018 #22

So why don't we talk about Climate Change more? HopeAgain Nov 2018 #45

We need to, but she has no power right now. redstatebluegirl Nov 2018 #47

So let's just sit back because we have no power? HopeAgain Nov 2018 #53

Really? ProfessorPlum Nov 2018 #189

"Hey, hey, LBJ! How many kids did you kill today?" nt. Mariana Nov 2018 #190

Give her a call ChubbyStar Nov 2018 #15

I emailed this morning, we shall see. redstatebluegirl Nov 2018 #17

Email is pointless Loki Liesmith Nov 2018 #29

Doubtful. There's no way in hell that would work out for the right, because mostly, JCanete Nov 2018 #19

Her being present at the protest at Nancy's office is my main complaint. redstatebluegirl Nov 2018 #21

It is a protest that apparently Pelosi has welcomed, and if you watched the video included, Cortez JCanete Nov 2018 #23

She needs to sit back and learn, this is not hit the ground running. redstatebluegirl Nov 2018 #24

I disagree, for the very reasons I stated. Her visibility is valuable to getting the issues she JCanete Nov 2018 #30

I have been a working member of this party fore a long time "(not that you are)". redstatebluegirl Nov 2018 #34

What? What agenda is that? You need to make that case, cuz that sounds way out of the box to me. nt JCanete Nov 2018 #37

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The agenda is a far left one, from a new member. redstatebluegirl Nov 2018 #41

There is nothing far left about those positions. Quit using republican framing and maybe we could JCanete Nov 2018 #49

Too many people forget the Democratic Party is a Coalition. We can walk and chew gum...but... haele Nov 2018 #107

Very well said. kstewart33 Nov 2018 #173

hahahahha. Wow, so you've got nothing except an ad hominem. Okay. Glad we've cleared that up. nt JCanete Nov 2018 #48

Yes, God forbid we do anything about imploding global climate if it's "disruptive" hatrack Nov 2018 #162

She is one congress rep out of 435. She isn't that important. KWR65 Nov 2018 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author redstatebluegirl Nov 2018 #31

then, if you accept everythign you just said, how would she be a problem? That was your premise. JCanete Nov 2018 #32

Because the other side doesn't care, they will latch on to her and use her as a poster child redstatebluegirl Nov 2018 #36

But when people say the same about Speaker Pelosi (in terms of being Celerity Nov 2018 #163

They'll do it anyway, at any time. Especially to women of color. SharonAnn Nov 2018 #188

She's a Betty that looks like a Veronica Ciaphas Cain Nov 2018 #28

Can you explain that analogy a bit more? irisblue Nov 2018 #42

They all lost. octoberlib Nov 2018 #52

In the Archies, wasn't Betty the one who often started trouble and in-fighting? TheBlackAdder Nov 2018 #96

What is there to support about the Amazon decision? WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2018 #33

Exactly SubjectTrip Nov 2018 #112

Representatives are much more focussed on what matters to their district jberryhill Nov 2018 #38

She's right to speak out on the tax breaks and other freebies DeminPennswoods Nov 2018 #40

I agree, but the people who might find a job might not. redstatebluegirl Nov 2018 #44

These are corporate HQ's... vi5 Nov 2018 #50

Yep, I'd bet few of these jobs DeminPennswoods Nov 2018 #104

Why would that be a problem? fescuerescue Nov 2018 #176

Amazon is a publically traded company Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2018 #67

Fine, then they don't need tax subsidies DeminPennswoods Nov 2018 #105

Then talk to the powers that be in NYC Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2018 #133

I'm happy my state "lost" out DeminPennswoods Nov 2018 #161

I agree. I can't believe this is even controversial. I think people just want to hate this woman SweetieD Nov 2018 #178

Actually other Democrats are now coming around to her original position on Amazon. vi5 Nov 2018 #46

Good grief, I am not saying Amazon is right. redstatebluegirl Nov 2018 #51

What makes you think you know "the system" any better than AOC? Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2018 #66

Um. She had NO CHALLENGER. geezus. Bfd Nov 2018 #152

Not in the primary. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2018 #174

No one campaigned against her. No One. She should have had to fight the battle Bfd Nov 2018 #180

You and I are usually on the same page but Ocasio might just change things MaryMagdaline Nov 2018 #129

This message was self-deleted by its author Bfd Nov 2018 #151

The tax ensentives are happening on a state and local level. LuvLoogie Nov 2018 #57

So she does not represent her district? vi5 Nov 2018 #114

Of course she represents her district, but the deal is done it seems. LuvLoogie Nov 2018 #128

Wow, who knew. vi5 Nov 2018 #130

It was you who brought her up in the context of Amazon and tax give-aways. LuvLoogie Nov 2018 #132

It's really not that interesting BannonsLiver Nov 2018 #186

I look forward to her energy and passion for the causes that are dear to me. I love the diversity Nanjeanne Nov 2018 #55

Same here. Like a puppy, she will learn to conserve her energy. Blue_true Nov 2018 #121

Don't care for her Meowmee Nov 2018 #56

Call her and let her know ChubbyStar Nov 2018 #59

I think you're missing Meowmee Nov 2018 #157

Love her. Iggo Nov 2018 #136

Bull matt819 Nov 2018 #58

I am thinking Alan Grayson. Sneederbunk Nov 2018 #62

Oh I have to agree with you!! Thekaspervote Nov 2018 #156

Spot on kcr Nov 2018 #181

Newest Attention Seeker... LovingA2andMI Nov 2018 #64

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BREAKING: NYC Council Speaker is breaking from NYC Leaders... brooklynite Nov 2018 #69

The right & Trumpsters will hold her up as the poster child representing all of the Left elocs Nov 2018 #70

I like her spirit Buckeyeblue Nov 2018 #72

she may run for president Joe941 Nov 2018 #73

Not in 2020.... Adrahil Nov 2018 #87

Too young by 6+ years. nt Blue_true Nov 2018 #122

I think she only cares about her district and constituents AlexSFCA Nov 2018 #74

She might be, but could end up being an asset, too. It's her call DFW Nov 2018 #78

I'm afraid she'll go the way of Alan Grayson. . . DinahMoeHum Nov 2018 #79

That's a very apt comparison. It would be a shame if that happened. NurseJackie Nov 2018 #169

In her 1st day she has become a 1st class pain in the ass. Fox News couldn't be happier. Botany Nov 2018 #80

Yes it's horrible to tell the protesters we must let leader Pelosi know we have her back in Autumn Nov 2018 #81

She'll be much more of an asset than a problem. Yavin4 Nov 2018 #82

I like her. David__77 Nov 2018 #84

She is "our party" Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2018 #86

I have never been impressed with AOC Gothmog Nov 2018 #90

She needs to learn quickly, or she may be "one-and-done". NurseJackie Nov 2018 #91

' you never get a second-chance to make a first impression' melman Nov 2018 #97

It's all subjective, of course, but ... NurseJackie Nov 2018 #100

Wow, that's an interesting twist on "judging someone". As for me, I based my successful career.... George II Nov 2018 #103

Agreed! That certainly makes MORE sense than... NurseJackie Nov 2018 #108

lol melman Nov 2018 #139

... NurseJackie Nov 2018 #141

Woof, woof! George II Nov 2018 #142

Who's a good boy?! NurseJackie Nov 2018 #143

You're so right about that - her mistakes could do her in FakeNoose Nov 2018 #98

She is the best melman Nov 2018 #94

I don't see it that way. pwb Nov 2018 #99

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Nobody is bashing her. NurseJackie Nov 2018 #111

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Same window "Any Dem Anywhere" went out of. Iggo Nov 2018 #140

You say problem I say opportunity Corvo Bianco Nov 2018 #102

We are all entitled to our opinion Chickensoup Nov 2018 #109

How do you figure that "Nancy is far more of a problem"? NurseJackie Nov 2018 #113

The nonstop ATTACKS of our LEADER on this board FUCKING INFURIATE ME Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #127

The GOP attacks Nancy Pelosi because she is so very effective Gothmog Nov 2018 #119

A problem in that she is going to finally drag it out of the 90's and into the 21st century? SubjectTrip Nov 2018 #110

the 90's were over a long time ago, the party has already moved beyond the 90's. JHan Nov 2018 #118

She is going to do just fine. Dave Starsky Nov 2018 #120

I was not happy to see her beat Crowley or get into other races. Blue_true Nov 2018 #124

Amazon is the new plantation, updated for the 21st century. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #126

Nah. Iggo Nov 2018 #137

Meanwhile, Steny Hoyer is presenting a direct threat to Pelosi's leadership chances SubjectTrip Nov 2018 #144

Why are you spreading disinformation? Denzil_DC Nov 2018 #148

This thread is a great example of the failures of teaching civics in our schools BannonsLiver Nov 2018 #187

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2018 #193

Source? That is not true. Bfd Nov 2018 #182

Yes, agreed. nt R B Garr Nov 2018 #146

It's about damn time someone breaks with New York's leaders. SaschaHM Nov 2018 #147

+1000 JonLP24 Nov 2018 #153

Using Amazon is a bad example JonLP24 Nov 2018 #150

Not worried sfwriter Nov 2018 #154

Look; the voters have spoken. Onyrleft Nov 2018 #160

Nobody is trying to do that. NurseJackie Nov 2018 #167

Meh. You are giving her more credit and power than she merits. KPN Nov 2018 #177

Said this from day one. djg21 Nov 2018 #179

The concern for her presence is only "a threat" in the Media's need for drama. Bfd Nov 2018 #183

Talk to her voters DeafAngelboy23 Nov 2018 #185

Let her get sworn in and learn her way around DC before we start jumping on her struggle4progress Nov 2018 #191

She's gonna be a problem for the right.... disillusioned73 Nov 2018 #194