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In reply to the discussion: How many people do you actually know who are not planning to get vaccinated for COVID-19? [View all]Celerity
(47,301 posts)The husband is American (but has been in Sweden and London (where I met him via my mum, since 1996, before I was born), his wife is a native Swede from an insanely dysfunctional upper class family.
The husband's father is the problem. Super anti-vaxxer, but also hates Trump, Biden, all Dems, almost all Rethugs (he loves Ron Paul, hates Rand). He was a multi-decade real life friend of people like Eustace Mullins (eeeeeek!!), for instance.
He (grandpa) is an old school conspiracy head, going back to the early 1960's. Double PhD in history and political science, retired college professor, self made multi-millionaire (construction firm he started on the side with his brother), encyclopaedic knowledge in so many fields, he is a motherfucking load to debate.
He lives in Hawaii now, but was a globe hopper for decades, Brussels, Paris, London, Hong Kong, Sydney, New York City (where he grew up, he was the tag-along 'poor' friend of the Astor/Rockefeller/Vanderbilt etc etc set, their assorted chaotic penumbra) He has the most amazing photo collection from that part of his life, and those interactions he had with them (my dog, the insane tales he has from those days, almost all backed up with hardcore evidence, he is a superb amateur photog as well as an obsessive diarist) made him hate the systemic controlling class.
He has been inside his son's brain for most of his life. The son is also a PhD and a teacher, not at all stupid, but the layers of decades of highly sophisticated programming are so hard to wash away, especially when the father comes to Sweden to visit or goes on a week long Zoom call binge now.
I shall endeavour to get the husband and wife (who doesn't like me but loves my wife, go figure, lolol) over that jab jab line, and they have scheduled a vax appointment for the both of them on Monday, August 2nd.
We shall see.